Episode 80 – The Topic Tracking Tangent

Scott: Friends with Brews.

Scott: Was that loud?

Scott: Why was the head tipping?

Scott: No, it was fine.

Scott: Oh.

Scott: Peter, you are Peter.

Peter: Scott.

Scott: Wow, that overdrives.

Peter: I am Scott.

Peter: I am, I am Scott.

Peter: I am Peter Scott.

Scott: You are Peter.

Scott: God, you don’t even know who you are.

Scott: I feel like you’re drinking beer today.

Peter: No, today is not beer.

Peter: I’m still working.

Peter: It’s only new in my time as we’re recording this, so.

Scott: Yeah.

Scott: Why is your time set so stupid?

Peter: Well, you know how you, we all collectively live in the dumbest timeline?

Peter: I guess maybe I live in the dumbest time zone.

Scott: Friends of mine used to say that the Eastern time zone was the one true time zone.

Scott: And I used to tell them, if it has an offset of negative five or whatever you are, first of all, it’s not even an even number, but it’s an offset.

Scott: How can negative five be the one true?

Scott: It doesn’t, I mean, you can’t even make…

Peter: That does not track.

Scott: No, it doesn’t.

Scott: It’s just dumb beyond belief.

Peter: Given, though, however, given the concentration of schools, et cetera, on this side, I think maybe we live in the smartest time zone, but not necessarily.

Peter: I still stick by the dumbest time line.

Scott: Okay, I just want to remind you where Washington, DC is.

Scott: Now, are you still going to stick to that statement about you live in the smartest area on earth?

Peter: I retract everything.

Scott: Excellent.

Scott: Thank you very much.

Scott: I rest my glasses case.

Scott: Because, Peter.

Peter: Because you have new glasses.

Scott: Yeah, I got the new Warby’s.

Scott: I also have the Warby street glasses.

Peter: Now, are both of yours, wait, go back to your non-street glasses for a second.

Scott: They’re different.

Scott: They’re not the same frames.

Scott: They’re totally different.

Peter: They are different, but they still have the faded, the bottoms are clear, but it’s more of a fade on your street glasses, right?

Scott: It’s more of a fade into clear on the computer glasses, whereas with the street ones, it’s a straight line, just like yours.

Peter: Oh, okay, okay.

Peter: Well, I’m sorry, I was mixing up the two.

Peter: See, I went very different.

Peter: I have the same shape frames, but these are all just like a solid, I don’t know if this is gray or charcoal, whatever these are called.

Scott: When I went to get the computer glasses, I wasn’t setting out for any particular style, but I tried these on in person at Warby, and I liked the way they fit, and I took them.

Scott: Whereas the other ones I had to order off the website, and I was a little tentative because I was ordering both the focal transition lenses, as well as the frames off the website.

Scott: But they turned out to be the most comfortable and the best pair of glasses that I currently own, including ones that I got from my optometrist for much more money.

Peter: So here’s the thing.

Peter: I physically, I like how these feel.

Peter: I haven’t even had them adjusted.

Peter: I went out last weekend, this past weekend.

Peter: I did a four-mile walk both Saturday and Sunday.

Peter: And on one of those walks, I walked to the nearest Warby Parker place.

Peter: But since I had had them on for about an hour and a half, and I didn’t need to adjust them a single time, I decided maybe I’m not going to get them adjusted.

Peter: Because it felt to me like in the hot summer, when I was sitting here at the desk, that they felt like they were sliding a little bit.

Peter: But outdoors, walking full more than an hour, everything was fine.

Peter: I’m like, maybe I’m not going to mess with it.

Peter: But you may, I don’t remember if we touched about this on the podcast, but I reordered the same shape frame with different, but with different lenses.

Peter: And then I just popped and swapped the lenses out.

Peter: But here’s the weird thing.

Peter: This is the same prescription that I had with the previous Roosevelt frames.

Peter: Same exact prescription, just different shape, slightly smaller than the Roosevelt’s.

Peter: Those were bigger.

Peter: I get less eye strain with these guys.

Peter: And I don’t know if it’s just because they sit a little lower on the brow.

Peter: They’re like more, they’re better, they fit my face better, so that I’m looking through like the distance section at distance better, and I’m looking at the closer stuff closer, you know, because of the progressives.

Peter: I’m not sure.

Peter: Prescription is the same, but the fit is different and feels better.

Scott: Well, these are your computer glasses.

Scott: These aren’t progressives, right?

Peter: These are, yes.

Peter: I’m referring to the other ones that are shaped identically, which have the progressive lenses.

Scott: And they’re Warbys?

Scott: Warbys lenses?

Peter: They’re Warbys.

Peter: Yeah, they’re all Warbys.

Peter: Prescriptions was from Warbys, the frames are Warbys, all of y’all.

Scott: You haven’t gotten your FooFoo, your…

Peter: No, the other ones coming from China Direct are still shipping.

Peter: Their last I checked, they were in New Jersey.

Scott: China Direct?

Scott: I thought it was something that started with an F.

Peter: I just made it up.

Peter: I made that up.

Peter: They come direct, because unlike Warbys Parker, I don’t think Fermu has like any sort of sore front presence.

Peter: So they just ship it to you straight.

Scott: Drop ship, yeah.

Peter: Drop ship, right.

Peter: But you know, Warbys are made in China too.

Scott: I’m sure they are, Peter.

Scott: You don’t have to get so defensive about it.

Peter: Yeah, well, I mean, I know they are, because you look at them on the side and it just says China CE right here.

Scott: No, no, no.

Peter: No?

Peter: You’re denying it?

Peter: Are you a China denier?

Scott: I’m a China denier.

Scott: It doesn’t exist.

Peter: Got it.

Scott: So for anybody curious, my street wear glasses are the Burke, the Warbys Parker Burke, B-U-R-K-E, in Tennessee Whiskey, which is a Tortoise, and Clear Fade on the bottom.

Scott: Would have loved blue, didn’t have it.

Scott: And my computer frames are the Hector in Brown Fade.

Scott: I don’t know what the color is called, but it’s the Brown Fade.

Scott: The only other color is complete black frames, and I didn’t want those.

Scott: So there you go.

Scott: That’s life in the old man zone.

Scott: This is Ben, your old man.

Scott: Your old man corner.

Scott: Oh, my hip.

Scott: What, too soon?

Scott: You don’t like my hip?

Scott: I hope you don’t like my hip.

Scott: It’s okay not to like my hip.

Peter: I’m not a fan of your hips now.

Scott: Good.

Scott: Good to know.

Peter: What are you drinking today?

Scott: I got my coffee from Trade Coffee Roasters, but it is actually a local brewer, and it’s one of our favorites.

Scott: It’s Sterling Coffee Roasters.

Scott: And this is their Kenya Kiyomugumo.

Scott: No, sorry, Kiyomugumo.

Peter: Say that five times fast, will you?

Scott: I need my friends from Kenya here to help me out.

Scott: Come on, Kenya listeners.

Scott: Let’s, you know, help me out here, and you’ll get a free subscription to Friends with Brews Premium.

Peter: I love it.

Scott: Okay.

Scott: Anyway, it’s supposed to taste like raspberries and demerara sugar.

Scott: I don’t know what that is.

Scott: But anyway, this coffee is actually available on Sterling Roasters website.

Scott: It’s not like some of them where, you know, trade gets a one-off deal, or maybe it’s something that’s being discontinued.

Scott: Maybe it’s a brew that’s being discontinued, a blend that’s being discontinued by that coffee roaster.

Scott: This is still on Sterling’s.

Scott: In fact, it actually 404s when I click on the details link on trade.

Scott: So I’m guessing maybe trade doesn’t have it, but Sterling still does.

Scott: So I’ll put the link to Sterling Coffee Roasters.

Peter: Well, I was going to ask you about, like, is it cheaper to buy it directly from Sterling than it is to go through?

Scott: It probably would have been, but they stuck it in my lineup and I just said that sounds good and I let it come.

Peter: So next time, though, if you want to buy it, would you check?

Scott: Because, oh, we buy Sterling locally.

Peter: Yeah, I might cancel my trade coffee.

Peter: They’ve been getting lighter in roast and more flowery floral sour with like the last two or three bags that I’ve gotten.

Peter: It’s like they’re not listening to my preferences anymore.

Peter: And so I feel like I’ve cycled through all they had to offer, which is like the couple of the ones that we’ve covered here and thumbs up on the podcast before, obviously.

Scott: Anyway, I’ve thumbs up this one.

Scott: I don’t know if I would say it tastes like raspberry and dimmer or sugar.

Scott: But again, I’m doing the AeroPress and it’s a very good smooth cup of coffee with just a hint of something in it.

Scott: And I’m sure it’s a raspberry or whatever, but it’s good.

Scott: And I like it.

Scott: I like Sterling.

Scott: It can always be counted on to be a nice, smooth, non-offensive cup of coffee from Sterling.

Peter: Oh, I do prefer when my coffee does not offend me, so.

Scott: Right.

Scott: You know, it didn’t do any Nazi salutes at the inauguration or anything like that.

Scott: It’s very non-offensive.

Peter: Why would you even?

Peter: I mean, what is?

Peter: Oh, right.

Peter: Yeah, I just was thinking about that again this morning.

Peter: Like, what a world, you know, my how things have changed since the 80s, the 90s, like Russia needs help from North Korea and Iran.

Peter: And we have a Nazi in the White House.

Peter: Amazing.

Scott: I remember a whole bunch of people dying on beaches all over the world in order to fight the Nazis at one point in our lives.

Peter: But hey, I don’t remember that.

Scott: Well, not in our lives, but in our country’s history.

Peter: I remember studying that, but I don’t remember that.

Peter: I mean, you know, they say it happened, but how how can anyone be sure?

Scott: Or really, the mainstream media is debating, was it really he was just enthusiastic, blah, blah, blah.

Scott: And meanwhile, somebody superimposed two clips side by side of actual Nazis doing the salute and Musk doing the salute.

Scott: It’s the salute.

Peter: Oh, it’s no.

Peter: I mean, if you if you don’t realize that, then you’re either a Nazi yourself or you’re just an idiot.

Peter: And that’s all there is to it.

Scott: But Peter, the press has been, I think, willfully ignorant.

Scott: They’ve been so naive this whole time.

Scott: They’ve normalized everything.

Scott: Every time Trump says something crazy, they translate it into actual English.

Scott: Why are they doing him that service?

Scott: Is he paying that?

Scott: No.

Scott: But they’ve been doing that the whole time.

Scott: It’s the total normalization of everything.

Scott: No one believes that it could possibly happen.

Scott: So they’re letting it happen.

Peter: That’s the thing.

Peter: People don’t believe it could happen here.

Peter: And I was one of those.

Peter: Right.

Peter: Here’s the thing I’ve been telling.

Peter: I’ve been saying this a lot recently.

Peter: Like, I used to be one of those people.

Peter: When I was a child, right, I did not believe that.

Peter: Because I told my father one day, I remember I was maybe eight teenager tops.

Peter: I don’t remember exactly.

Scott: Oh, I thought he was reading you the Bernstein Bears.

Scott: And then you said, Dad, Nazis are never…

Peter: Bernstein Bears.

Peter: No, no, no.

Peter: That’s not what was going on.

Peter: We were watching TV.

Peter: And, you know, this is back in the day.

Peter: We had old school aerial antenna.

Peter: And we were watching something, and all of a sudden, the signal went out.

Scott: He dove under the table.

Peter: And my dad was like, yep, you know what this could be?

Peter: Like, you know, the next thing you see is a general comes on the screen and says, we’ve taken over Washington.

Peter: And I was like, that can’t happen here.

Peter: And he was just like, you watch.

Peter: And I was like, OK.

Peter: Now, there you go.

Peter: It took a little longer, and it was ever so slightly more subtle, slightly.

Scott: Just a bit delayed.

Peter: Just a little delayed.

Peter: So anyway, I’m glad, though, that my father didn’t actually have to see.

Scott: It is funny that your dad went straight there, though, at that.

Peter: Yeah.

Peter: Well, I mean, he came from there.

Peter: But like I said, I’m glad that he didn’t live to see this because he at this point, you know, he died firmly believing that America is the greatest country on the world, no matter what.

Peter: And you know what?

Peter: I’m glad that he took that with him.

Scott: My granddad on my dad’s side, a hundred percent for sure, he never would have, like he never would have believed it.

Scott: I don’t know if he would have.

Scott: Now, he was a very sharp man, and he didn’t trust a lot of politicians in general.

Scott: So he might have decided to believe what he was seeing.

Scott: But at the same time, you know, there’s certain people that think the Republicans are still the Republicans they had back in the day.

Peter: My dad was one of those.

Peter: My father used, I think I’ve talked to you about, I don’t know if we talked about it on the podcast before, but my father used to have a card, and he didn’t actually carry it, right?

Peter: He wasn’t a card carrying Republican, but he had a little card that was designed to be carried, if you’re a Republican, and it said, I am a Republican, but because I believe in blah.

Peter: And it listed like 10 tenets of the Republican Party.

Peter: And I remember this was in the George W.

Peter: Bush, W the second administration.

Peter: I told him, I said, yeah, but dad, the Republican Party doesn’t stand for any of these things anymore.

Scott: I know, right.

Peter: It’s the thing.

Peter: It’s like saying, I’m a Republican because Lincoln, you know?

Scott: Yeah.

Scott: Anyway, yeah, there are definitely people that I’m glad didn’t have to go through this.

Scott: And I feel like they would have been in the same position of not believing what they were seeing and not believing that it could possibly be that way.

Scott: Anyway, what are you drinking today, Peter?

Peter: Yeah, back to my brew.

Scott: Thank you.

Peter: So I mixed it up a little bit.

Peter: So if you, when did I do this?

Peter: I sent you a link, we should add that, a link to a guy who, you know, some people are saying this is the best brew, the best way to make coffee I’ve ever tasted.

Scott: Would you say many people are saying?

Peter: Well, he had a lot of thumbs up on YouTube.

Peter: I’ve only heard one person say that, but he said that other people are saying that.

Scott: What’s his name again?

Peter: I don’t remember.

Peter: It’s a Japanese guy.

Peter: I sent you a link.

Peter: It was a few days ago.

Scott: I know, but we have 12 messaging services.

Peter: I know, we have lots of links.

Peter: I’ll find it again.

Peter: Anyway, we should put it in the link in the show notes because it is very on point.

Peter: For once, we’re talking about brewing methods, right?

Peter: So the method that’s described in this YouTube video, which we’ll link in the show notes, it’s called the new hybrid method.

Peter: So the new hybrid method, it’s a way of doing pour over, but I guess I don’t do pour over.

Peter: And it’s not my specialty, so I’m not an expert on this.

Peter: But apparently what he does is he pours over using, uses one of these, you know, fancy modern style plastic pour over catch cup mechanism thing.

Peter: I don’t know what they’re called.

Peter: But you start with the thing closed.

Peter: So you pour all the water and it sits in the grinds for a while.

Peter: The grinds sit in the water for a while.

Peter: Then you open it, let the water sip through, let the coffee sip through down into the cup, and then close it again.

Peter: And I guess that does something where you’re getting supposedly the best of both worlds, where you’re getting the pour over function, but also trapping the aromas.

Peter: I don’t remember.

Peter: You’d understand a lot better because your Japanese is a lot better than mine.

Peter: Also there are subtitles, which I was following along, but it takes so long.

Peter: It’s like a 20 minute video.

Peter: I’m like, just make me a cup of coffee.

Peter: That got me wondering.

Peter: So I asked my trusty AI assistant, what is the most popular method for brewing coffee today?

Peter: And I kind of, I think this is likely true.

Peter: It said that pour over has become the most popular, especially after COVID.

Peter: But the Aeropress is still popular.

Peter: So I started looking and one of the site, one of the references that it cited was aeropress.com.

Peter: And they’re talking about how you can use the Aeropress to brew coffee in different methods.

Peter: Now, we chatted about this years ago, the inversion technique, right?

Peter: Where you flip the Aeropress over, put the plunger in just a little bit, pour the grinds in and then pour the water on time.

Peter: That is fraught with peril, because if you don’t put the plunger deep enough, it can come out and, you know, basically your coffee goes all over the counter or whatnot.

Peter: So that happened to me once and I was like, okay, enough of this.

Peter: That’s the only like alternative AeroPress method I’ve ever done, other than standardizing on using the Prismo, the fellow Prismo, which is similar to the AeroPress thing I sent you.

Peter: The, what’s it called?

Peter: The bottom where the filter doesn’t let anything drip through.

Peter: You have to express everything through.

Peter: So that’s the way I do it like all the time.

Peter: I haven’t gone back to the other, you know, regular types and I don’t even know where mine is now.

Peter: It’s down in the basement somewhere.

Scott: Let me go on a side tension about the distress of finding things in our conversations.

Scott: You said that you put a link in our reminders.

Scott: I don’t see any link in our reminders that you just put.

Peter: Well, maybe I need to hit enter.

Scott: Also, I have the show notes open in note.

Peter: Okay, well, all right, let me put it in our show notes then too.

Peter: I’ll put it there.

Scott: This is the, we need to do some streamlining.

Scott: That’s all I’m saying.

Scott: We got to pick one or the other.

Peter: Yeah, no, I mean, reminders I generally put for talking ahead of time.

Peter: Show notes, we put it for talking in real time or post time.

Scott: And reminders, why?

Scott: Because you can easily add it with Siri.

Peter: Because, well, just remind me to talk about this on the podcast.

Peter: I mean, it’s in the name right there.

Peter: It makes perfect sense.

Scott: I know, but it’s, but we could also have a note of future topics.

Peter: Hmm, logically, my brain works better way by putting ordered lists than things that you want to do in the future in reminders.

Scott: 100% understood.

Scott: I’m just saying you are introducing complexity by having more places to look.

Peter: We already have the reminders.

Peter: That’s not, that’s more, that’s not more.

Peter: That’s, that actually, I think, predated notes by about a minute.

Scott: Okay, listeners, I’m looking for a co-host for this podcast.

Scott: Anyone from Kenya would be welcome so they could help me pronounce future coffees.

Peter: Listeners, I’m looking for a co-host for this podcast.

Peter: You need to be fluent in Brazilian Portuguese because mine is a little rusty.

Peter: And that’s how we forked Friends with Brews.

Peter: I was going to say this went multi-hemispheric.

Scott: This is not open source, my friend.

Scott: This is not an open source podcast.

Scott: You cannot have it.

Scott: Let me ask you this though.

Scott: Did you say what you feel about your coffee?

Peter: No, I didn’t finish yet because I didn’t finish on how to, how I brewed it, which is I’m still getting to.

Peter: So, here’s the thing.

Peter: I looked on my, I used my AI assistant.

Peter: It was Perplexity.

Peter: And one of the references it cited was aeropress.com.

Peter: So I went to aeropress.com, and aeropress.com, much to my surprise, has a number of brewing methods on there.

Peter: I have always assumed that when you do AeroPress, it’s a relatively fine grain.

Peter: You just put the water in, stir, let it sit one minute, and then express, and boom, done.

Peter: Other than, again, the inversion technique.

Peter: But the AeroPress website says you can use an AeroPress to do pour-over style, French press style, cold brew style.

Peter: And I was like, color me intrigued.

Peter: So I started experimenting with it.

Scott: I’m looking for my intrigued crayon.

Peter: Today, I am using the French press style, and I’ve been doing this more often recently.

Peter: So this also got me started because I didn’t get to talk to you about this.

Peter: But I remember when I first got the AeroPress, the little pamphlet that came with it said, you know, grind so much water, you fill up the grind, you do it fine, you know, fine to medium fine, like not quite espresso, but in that general ballpark.

Peter: Fill up the coffee to the number one, pour in not quite boiling water, like 200 degree water to number two.

Peter: So that was what it was always the rules I was following.

Peter: I noticed though, when I got the fellow Prismo, it also includes a little pamphlet.

Peter: And it says, fill in so much coffee, e.g.

Peter: 20 grams, boil it to 212 degrees and pour that directly in, which frankly I have been doing now for years.

Peter: I have not been waiting for the water to boil, you know, to come back down.

Peter: I’ve been sticking with 212, 210, however much boiling is.

Peter: And people have said, oh, it’s going to burn the coffee.

Peter: I’m like, well, maybe it does, but then maybe I just like my coffee well done.

Peter: So there you go.

Peter: So that’s what I’ve been doing.

Peter: The instructions for French press were just use coarse grind, pour it in, fill it up to like the number four with water.

Peter: So put in like 20 grams of coffee and about 200 to 220 grams of water.

Peter: Stir vigorously about 20 times, let it sit for one minute for dark roast and then express.

Peter: So that’s what I’ve been doing.

Peter: And that’s been my regular now for like the last several days.

Peter: And it’s good.

Peter: It’s like I’ve rediscovered French press coffee and I like it again.

Peter: But I’m still using my AeroPress.

Peter: So there you go.

Peter: Are you looking for a new host?

Peter: Is that what you’re doing?

Peter: I keep seeing your eyes darting over to different areas of your screen.

Scott: Well, no, I’m looking for that Japanese.

Scott: I’m looking for the link to that Japanese guy.

Scott: But if he wants to co-host, yeah.

Peter: It’s in the notes.

Peter: I put it in the notes.

Scott: God damn it.

Peter: You gave me the scathing retort, and you didn’t even look in the notes.

Peter: Wow.

Peter: Listeners, Scott is looking for a new co-host.

Scott: So you talked about the methods, and now we’re on to the fact that…

Scott: Did you announce your coffee type yet?

Peter: This is a recurring favorite, Wegmans decaf espresso roast whole bean.

Peter: Oh, yeah, but I’ve been doing it with the regular roast, and I also did it with the Bright Horizon, Distant Horizon, Distant Early Warnings, I don’t remember, Event Horizon.

Peter: One of the ones, we’ll review it if we haven’t.

Peter: I think we did actually last time.

Scott: Death in a Cup, yeah.

Peter: Done it with a number of dark roasts, because generally that’s all I drink, and it hasn’t disappointed.

Peter: It’s been pretty good.

Scott: Is it worth the difference?

Scott: Is it worth doing it differently though?

Scott: Let me, that’s the real key.

Scott: Is it worth the extra?

Peter: I think it is, because sometimes you like just like a change.

Peter: And so instead of making myself an espresso style, but what got me thinking about that too was, and I didn’t talk about this with you, you had mentioned, for example, you asked me when I grind it so fine, doesn’t it come out bitter?

Peter: And what I meant to do in the back of my head was find the AeroPress article which says grind your stuff fine.

Peter: Because again, in my mind, it was always you grind your AeroPress coffee fine.

Peter: When you’re using AeroPress, it’s always a fine grind, right?

Peter: I didn’t say that, so I didn’t spark one of our legendary debates over text, which needs to be an in-voice conversation.

Peter: But in the meantime, I did find that French press generally has a reputation for being more bitter.

Peter: Coarse grinds are supposed to be more bitter, but you thought that my espresso grind would come out more bitter.

Peter: So that’s what I wanted to talk about.

Scott: No, I think you’re right.

Scott: I don’t want to talk about that.

Scott: I think you’re right.

Scott: I think that it will be more bitter.

Scott: I think the problem is…

Peter: Talk about it with your new co-host.

Scott: Yeah, talk about it.

Scott: So, here’s the weird thing though.

Scott: If you look at our grinder that we both use, the Fellow Opus, it shows AeroPress in a range that’s in medium.

Scott: If you flip over the lid, it says AeroPress and it’s like medium to slightly coarse, because the bigger the number, the coarser the grind.

Peter: Right.

Scott: And so, they don’t agree with AeroPress’ thing about grind it on fine.

Scott: But here’s the other thing.

Scott: The Opus for me, my Opus, and this was true of the last Opus, I have to turn it all the way to 10 to get what I think should be a five grind to get a medium grind.

Scott: It is so f*****g fine.

Scott: It just grinds everything so, so fine.

Scott: And I, it’s crazy.

Scott: It’s like in a different world of what’s fine and what’s medium compared to any grinder I’ve used otherwise.

Peter: Which is funny, because I see, I get what I think is a fairly coarse grind.

Peter: When I do my French press, I’m doing it on about an eight.

Peter: And when I do AeroPress espresso style, traditional AeroPress, let’s call it that, I’ve been doing it more like between a four and a five.

Peter: If I go below four, it turns to like mud, and I can’t even press it down through.

Scott: Yeah.

Scott: So the reason I say that is because for pour over, I had to have it cranked all the way to 11, and I had to also rotate the internal blue dial to get it even coarser, because otherwise the pour over would never finish.

Scott: It would never drip through.

Scott: So that, yeah, I just had all kinds of problems with pour overs with this grinder.

Peter: So I will refer to the Fellow Prismo Manual, which I just put a link in the show notes.

Scott: You called it Primo.

Peter: That was what I was looking for.

Peter: I did it old school when I bought my Prismo and scanned it into Notion.

Peter: And again, I would assume this would be the same for the one that I sent you, the actual Aeropress.

Peter: I don’t even remember what that one’s called.

Peter: Because traditional listeners, you don’t know, the regular Aeropress has very big holes in the bottom, and it was designed to be used with a paper filter, although you can use a metal filter.

Scott: Which I do have now, by the way.

Peter: Which you do have now.

Peter: I also have a third-party metal filters I’ve had for years, but I don’t use those because I use the Prismo now.

Peter: Although, another tangent.

Scott: Amazing.

Peter: We’re talking about coffee for like, wow, this is amazing.

Scott: Flow control filter cap is what you’re looking for.

Peter: Flow control filter cap.

Peter: Okay, so AeroPress flow control filter cap, which is analogous to the Fellow Prismo.

Peter: In my experience, the Prismo is a superior product.

Peter: Coffee taste is not really much significant.

Peter: It’s pretty much the same.

Peter: But for me, that AeroPress flow control cap, I had a hard time fitting it into my AeroPress.

Peter: I had to work harder to get it in.

Peter: And I figured since of some of the discrepancies we had discussed, it would fit better in yours, which is why I sent it to you.

Scott: Yeah, but listen, here’s the thing.

Scott: The old AeroPress, which I had to replace, it was more difficult to put it on, but the brand spanking new AeroPress, it just goes right on.

Peter: And again, to be clear, I still use the old, I have three of what I would call the classic original AeroPress.

Peter: One is the original.

Scott: This is also a classic.

Scott: This is also the same exact classic thing.

Scott: It’s just a new one.

Peter: It’s the same?

Peter: Exactly the same?

Scott: It’s not a new model.

Scott: It’s exactly the same, except mine’s blue.

Peter: I mean, I have, like, I literally, one of the ones I use, I don’t know which is which, is the one I bought after meeting you and the family in person for the first time.

Peter: I’ve had it that long.

Peter: So I’ve had it since like, what, 13, 12, 13 years at this point, and it works fine.

Scott: 1942, yeah.

Peter: 1942, exactly.

Scott: The last time we fought Nazis.

Peter: Oh, God.

Peter: Anyway, the interesting thing is that, you know, this was a revelation for me, is that you can use your AeroPress to do lots of different things.

Peter: But, yeah, and I knew that, right?

Peter: Because I had seen coffee brewing competitions, etc., where people, you know, have all kinds of weird things.

Peter: But this is like officially endorsed by AeroPress.

Peter: It’s on their website saying, you can do this.

Peter: I was like, okay, that’s pretty cool.

Peter: So before I forget talking about Brews, we had some listener feedback.

Scott: Yes, we did.

Scott: I don’t remember what the hell it actually was.

Peter: I do remember.

Scott: It was on Mastodon.

Peter: It was on Mastodon.

Scott: And I believe it was my friend Donnie, Donnie Adams.

Scott: I know Donnie.

Scott: I don’t know him personally.

Scott: I’ve never met him in person, but he’s my friend.

Peter: That’s the Datums on Mastodon?

Scott: Yeah.

Peter: Yes.

Peter: He recommended it.

Peter: Now, here’s the funny thing.

Peter: Because of that font that’s shown on this masthead brewing jalapeno IPA that I saw.

Scott: Well, first, let’s…

Scott: The feedback was, I’m thinking this should be on Friends with Brews.

Scott: He sent us a photograph of a nice one pint can of Masthead Brewing Company’s jalapeno IPA.

Scott: And as I just stated, Peter, it’s an IPA.

Scott: But…

Scott: Yeah.

Peter: Which makes me think that this is not listener very carefully feedback.

Scott: I don’t think so, because his follow-up was, it’s more jalapeno than it is IPA, and it’s surprisingly spicy.

Scott: Okay.

Peter: Okay.

Peter: I was going to also go to, maybe, listener hits us feedback.

Scott: Right.

Peter: But you say he’s a friend of yours, right?

Peter: So…

Scott: People do get tired of me on Masthead, so it’s possible he’s trying to kill me.

Peter: Right.

Peter: Okay.

Peter: So, anyway, the datums on Mastodon has given us.

Peter: So when I looked at the picture, which I’m assuming you’ll put into, I’ve already put a link to the Mastodon post in the show notes.

Peter: When I looked at it, I thought at a glance, a very quick glance, that this was something from Jack’s Abbey, because the font looks very similar to Jack’s Abbey craft loggers.

Peter: But then I looked and I was like, oh, no, this looks like an Ohio type of thing, which is interesting.

Scott: Cleveland Rocks, Cleveland Rocks.

Peter: Right.

Peter: I work with a bunch of folks who are actually based in Cleveland, Ohio.

Peter: Sorry, not Cleveland, Cincinnati, Ohio.

Peter: But same state, same state.

Scott: You remember what that Cleveland Rocks thing is from?

Scott: Maybe you don’t.

Peter: No, I don’t.

Scott: Okay.

Scott: Drew Carey?

Scott: No.

Scott: Too soon?

Peter: No.

Scott: Oh.

Peter: Nothing.

Scott: Wow.

Peter: Got nothing.

Scott: Nope.

Peter: Zip.

Peter: Zero.

Peter: Zilch.

Scott: Anyway, keep going.

Scott: You realize that this is a Cleveland, Ohio thing.

Peter: Right.

Peter: It’s not Jack’s Abbey.

Peter: So I’ve never seen this brand around here.

Peter: I don’t know if I’m able to get it.

Peter: Now, if it is more Jalapeno than IPA, okay, well, more anything than IPA sounds good, but more pepper than beer.

Peter: I’m wondering again, because the only pepper beer I’ve had, I had a Sriracha, it was either, I think it was a Sriracha Stout.

Peter: It was one of those, the file under, now I can say I had it, and I never have to have it again.

Scott: Right, but the good news is because it’s alcohol, people will just assume you’re crying because you’re drunk, not because you’re burning out the ear, eyes, nose, and mouth.

Peter: It wasn’t that hot, but it really just, do you know what it’s like if you eat peppers, any kind of pepper, like black pepper, jalapenos, whatever, and then drink some caffeine, either Coca-Cola.

Peter: I remember, I noticed this when I was a kid.

Peter: I would eat hot peppers and then drink Coke.

Peter: You get this capsaicin aftertaste.

Scott: Was this like a challenge?

Peter: No.

Peter: It was just like having a hot dog with some hot sauce on it and washing it down with a soda.

Peter: And what I noticed most is I don’t taste the flavor of the foods that I’m actually eating or the drink.

Peter: I just taste aftertaste.

Peter: And that’s what this tasted like.

Peter: So it was just like, oh, I just ate something hot or I just drank something hot.

Peter: That’s all there was to it.

Scott: Okay.

Scott: So you didn’t enjoy the flavor.

Scott: It just was like, uh, no, was it?

Peter: Uh, was not enjoyable.

Scott: Would you describe it as?

Peter: Uh, it was kind of like, uh, yeah, it was kind of, uh, uh, okay.

Peter: Yeah.

Scott: Uh, I don’t have a rating for that.

Scott: Uh, uh, well, anyway, are you going to try it?

Scott: Cause I felt like you would have a better chance of finding this than I would here.

Peter: If I can find it.

Scott: I’m not going to find it here because the local stuff crowds out almost all the, I almost said international, the national, the other national non, you know, shite beers.

Scott: Yeah, you know, we do have some, but not a lot compared to local stuff.

Scott: And I have never seen this.

Scott: I’ve never seen Cleveland Brewing Company or whatever this is for sure.

Peter: Okay.

Peter: I have not either.

Peter: So there you go.

Scott: All right.

Scott: Yep.

Scott: Well, try harder.

Peter: I will try harder to see it again.

Scott: Fine.

Scott: I mean, seriously, if I ever saw this, I would give it a try based on the listener feedback.

Scott: I don’t like IPA, and I would only buy one can of this.

Scott: I wouldn’t want to buy more than that to begin with until I tried it.

Scott: But I think we have had IPAs in the past that weren’t so bad.

Scott: It’s just that most IPAs are bad.

Scott: And then there’s the IPAs.

Scott: I’ve been recommended IPAs that are just 100% hops.

Scott: And it’s like, I don’t have any flavor out of this other than hops.

Scott: This is total garbage.

Scott: Why did this person recommend this to me?

Scott: And it’s like, my opinion of IPA is anyone can make an IPA because you just make it overly hoppy and then who cares what it tastes like.

Scott: I really do think it’s the beginning brewers’ choice.

Scott: Bingo.

Scott: Anyway.

Peter: That’s it.

Peter: Yeah, just hop the heck out of it and you’re good.

Scott: So brew this, all you beginning brewers.

Peter: All right, let’s move on and let’s move on to our main topic.

Peter: And you had suggested this one, I think it was this morning, to talk about, okay, whatever, I got it this morning, talk about the independent media to which we subscribe and support.

Scott: Why exactly would independent media be important these days, do you think?

Peter: Because they’re the only ones who can recognize a Nazi salute when they see it.

Peter: That’s just, I’m just going there already, I’m just a guess.

Scott: Yes, you’re absolutely right.

Scott: And mainstream media is beholden to billionaires right now, 100%.

Peter: Beholden to?

Peter: It’s owned by.

Scott: Yeah, it’s owned by or beholden to.

Scott: Like if TikTok comes back to life, you could call that, it’s not media, but it’s a social platform, but they’re going to owe Trump everything.

Peter: I mean, they’re paying a million dollars just to get their foot in the door.

Scott: Yeah, so all information sources are compromised, aside from independent media.

Scott: And the independent media people have a vested interest in doing a really good job, because they have to stand out and they have to serve a niche market.

Scott: They have to attract enough people who want to pay them that they can continue to do their business.

Scott: The other thing is, the current brand of independent media are doing this right.

Scott: They’re not sub stacking it.

Scott: They’re not mediuming it.

Scott: They’re not relying on other people’s platforms.

Scott: They’re building their own platforms, and they’re integrating them into either Activity Pub or whatever it is Blue Sky uses, so that they can own their own websites, own their own content, but also still get the information out there.

Scott: And I think now is a good time to support independent media of all kinds.

Scott: And we’ll talk about that.

Scott: It’s not just political.

Scott: We’re not just talking politics here.

Scott: We’re going to talk about some independent media that’s just entertainment based or whatever.

Scott: But we’re going to talk about what we support.

Peter: Yeah.

Peter: So I’ll go first.

Peter: When we think about independent media, media, I’ll start with like news.

Peter: So I am now a paid subscriber to 404 Media.

Scott: Yep.

Peter: And also to The Verge.

Peter: Now, as I often do, I made a knee jerk reaction.

Peter: I subscribed to The Verge as soon as I heard they had a subscription, hoping that, assuming that that meant I would get ad free podcasts, and I don’t.

Peter: So I get an ad free viewing experience on their website, which I very rarely actually visit, but still, you know, get ads in their podcast, whatever.

Peter: I like their stuff.

Peter: I like its, you know, fair, objective reporting.

Peter: But I also subscribe to 404 Media, and we’ve talked about them on the show a couple of times, because I think they’re, you know, doing some objectively good coverage of stuff going on, not just Silicon Valley, but the wildfires, government activities, all kinds of other stuff that I’m not seeing covered in other locations.

Peter: So yeah.

Peter: So those two.

Peter: On deck, I have not yet pulled the trigger, but I might subscribe to ProPublica and Don Lemon’s feed, and possibly the Tech Won’t Save Us guy, the podcast.

Scott: I don’t know.

Peter: I haven’t gotten around to those yet.

Scott: What’s a Don Lemon?

Peter: Don Lemon quit CNN.

Peter: He was the one that Elon kicked off Twitter.

Peter: So those are my newsy types.

Peter: What sort of newsy independent media are you subscribing to?

Peter: And then I’ll bounce back to my not so newsy ones.

Scott: OK.

Scott: I gotta find the name of Molly White’s real quick, because even though I’m not currently subscribed, I do recommend her.

Peter: I think I follow her on Blue Sky.

Scott: White Bitcoin.

Scott: She’s a Bitcoin expert.

Scott: I’m sure you do.

Scott: Molly White has Web3 is going great.

Scott: Oh, citation needed newsletter.

Scott: That’s a good one.

Peter: Web3 is going great.

Peter: Isn’t Web3 gone?

Peter: Are we past that now?

Scott: No, God, no.

Peter: Really?

Scott: Peter, this is the era of Trump.

Scott: He’s got his own meme coin now.

Scott: He announced a meme coin the same day he was inaugurated.

Scott: And so did his wife.

Scott: Bitcoin is back.

Scott: Haven’t you checked your Bitcoin value recently?

Peter: And this is separate from the doge, right?

Peter: Which is using the doge coin Shiba Inu as its mascot.

Scott: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Scott: This is totally separate.

Peter: Got it.

Peter: Yeah, separation of private interest and government.

Peter: Of course, they’re different.

Scott: Check your Bitcoin.

Scott: Bitcoin’s been up for a long time ever since Trump got re-elected.

Peter: Right.

Peter: And I noticed even before that, I think.

Scott: Yeah, just on the speculation.

Peter: Although in the last day, it’s just gone down.

Scott: Yeah, but I mean, the whole deal is, you know, this is what the Andreessen Horowitz is and everybody else who invests in crypto funds.

Scott: By the way, yeah, we could talk forever about these investment fund guys and what they use now.

Scott: But anyway.

Peter: Right.

Peter: That wasn’t why we were here, though.

Scott: 404 Media, I also subscribe to.

Scott: I subscribe to The Verge.

Scott: I subscribe to MIT Technology Review, which I got at a really good discounted price, but I don’t recommend it.

Scott: It’s a bit.

Scott: It surprised me that it came out of MIT because it’s a bit spammy or topic du jour.

Scott: Like they.

Peter: Oh, interesting.

Scott: They rave too much about the stuff that they’re covering as opposed to being super objective about it, I think.

Scott: Like they have articles like, here’s why AI is so important for you and blah, blah, blah.

Scott: Instead of, it sounds like stuff that you would find on the web outside of that.

Scott: They do keep you up to date on new technologies, but I don’t like the way they cover them as well as some other independent journalists.

Scott: I feel like they’re too rah, rah, and they’re just trying to crank out so much stuff that they’re not.

Scott: Like 404, you might not see a new article for a few days, several days.

Peter: You might not, but I don’t have that problem because they email me.

Peter: I get them by email.

Peter: I’m like, oh, more stuff to read.

Peter: So I’m usually not at a loss there.

Scott: But I’m saying their website, they won’t necessarily post, they don’t post multiple articles per day is what I’m saying.

Scott: But when they do post something, it’s been well researched and covered.

Peter: Because 404 Media is literally four people right now.

Scott: Yeah, right.

Scott: Yeah.

Scott: There you go.

Scott: And, you know, similar to The Verge, although The Verge does post a lot of stuff, they have a lot of people and they do tend to put a lot of thought into their articles.

Peter: Agreed.

Scott: So anyway, I don’t personally recommend MIT Technology Review.

Scott: I won’t renew for sure.

Peter: Oh, look at that.

Peter: The Trump coin is now available for trade on Coinbase.

Scott: I guess there was a pastor who I don’t know if he participated in the inauguration, or he was tangentially related or associated with Trump in some way.

Scott: But anyway, this pastor of this church starved his own meme coin.

Scott: He goes, we will only use this for good.

Scott: Praise God.

Scott: What an age we live in.

Scott: And it’s like, oh, my God, it just is so bad, Peter.

Scott: I also, but I do recommend Molly White’s Citation Needed newsletter.

Scott: I don’t currently subscribe to it just because it’s more cryptocurrency oriented.

Scott: And I don’t care about that aspect of technology as much as some other aspects of technology right now.

Scott: So I don’t pay for it.

Scott: But I do read the free version.

Scott: But she is an excellent analyst of tech in general, even though her newsletter does focus on Bitcoin.

Scott: She’s knowledgeable about security issues and tech in general, and what these people are doing with their money.

Scott: And she tracked money related to cryptocurrency as it affected various elections, local and national elections.

Scott: And she did a really good job of that.

Scott: So if you want to support that kind of thing, and it might be more important in the near future as cryptocurrency becomes more to the forefront again.

Scott: So.

Peter: Yeah.

Scott: That’s my news related ones.

Peter: Well, my tiny sliver fraction of a Bitcoin is definitely worth a lot more than it was the last time I looked at it.

Scott: Oh, Tech Won’t Save Us.

Scott: I do pay for the premium podcast for Tech Won’t Save Us because I also do think, even though sometimes they go a little further than I would, they do a good job of pointing out the hypocrisy and the motives behind the Tech Bros and why people seriously need to stop and stand there with their mounts agape when people are talking about opening nuclear reactors to power, data centers for AI and stuff like that.

Scott: They do a good job of talking about those kinds of issues, which are very real, important issues.

Peter: All right.

Peter: Well, that’s cool.

Scott: What about entertainment, Peter?

Peter: So entertainment.

Peter: So one of the ones that probably the…

Peter: I don’t remember the first one on this list that I signed to, but I’ve been a subscriber, a happy-paying subscriber to bigsandwich.co for years now.

Peter: Big Sandwich being the publishers of the Weekly Planet.

Peter: Easily, I get a good laugh out of every single podcast that I hear from those guys.

Scott: Yeah, they’re amazing.

Peter: Happy, love it, definitely worth my money.

Peter: I’m happy.

Peter: So I pay my nine bucks a month.

Peter: And I was a little disappointed.

Peter: I went to local Muffin and Bagel place this weekend for breakfast.

Peter: And I noticed that the price, their price of a big sandwich has gone up from $9 to $9.50.

Scott: Oh.

Peter: On one of their menus.

Peter: But on the main menu, it’s still nine.

Peter: They haven’t gotten around to doing that.

Peter: But the one on the wall, that’s just an eight by 10, or eight and a half by 11 piece of paper, they updated that.

Peter: So I don’t know if that bodes for, you know, the big sandwich subscription going up too.

Peter: I don’t know.

Peter: Possible.

Peter: Who knows?

Scott: Well, since both of these guys, I believe, are in Australia, I don’t think they’re going to be using your local wall menu to calibrate their prices, Peter.

Peter: We can hope.

Scott: We can hope.

Scott: Yeah, they’re really good.

Scott: The reason I don’t pay for them is, even their free feed has tons of their episodes, for just the main Weekly Planet podcast.

Scott: And I have other stuff I want to listen to.

Scott: I don’t have enough time to listen to everything they do.

Scott: I just don’t have enough time.

Peter: Right.

Peter: And I don’t necessarily listen to every single one.

Peter: Like, their movie watches, watch alongs and things.

Peter: I don’t…

Peter: If it’s a movie that I liked watching through the first time, I’ll generally watch that again and do that.

Peter: But I don’t usually do those, for instance.

Peter: Because those are long.

Peter: Like, if it’s a two-hour movie, they go on for two hours, you know?

Scott: At least, yeah.

Peter: All right.

Peter: Let’s see.

Peter: So on top of that, Mark Lewis, I guess now it’s the Mark and Jenna Lewis podcast, his wife.

Peter: He likes to say he’s not a fitness influencer.

Peter: He’s just a YouTube personality.

Peter: And but he did, you know, we had a lot in common, like he relatively late in the game, got into doing like ultra running and stuff.

Peter: And that’s how I found him one day.

Peter: I was just YouTube recommended to him.

Peter: British guy, funny, hilariously funny, sense of humor, very compatible with mine.

Peter: He and his wife recently pulled up steaks, and as they say, moved house, and moved out to the British countryside.

Peter: So lately, that’s what they’ve been talking about the most.

Scott: He’s not going to turn out to be another Lex Fridman or Jordan Peterson or something like that?

Peter: Highly unlikely.

Scott: Okay, good.

Scott: Excellent.

Peter: And we both subscribe to the next one.

Peter: I’ll let you cover.

Scott: Accidental Tech Podcasts you refer to?

Peter: That one.

Scott: Yeah, ATP is, it’s just good.

Scott: It’s just great.

Scott: I’d pay for it for Syracuse alone, but of course it is the interaction of the hosts and the fact that they know each other and their relationship that makes the podcast good.

Peter: Indeed.

Peter: Yeah, really curious to see how Marco’s latest endeavor goes.

Scott: Yeah, I think it’ll go better than some people think it will for various reasons.

Scott: One of which he has a captive audience there.

Scott: It’s a very unique situation that he’s got.

Peter: Yes.

Peter: I’m a little envious.

Scott: I am too.

Scott: I want an island where everyone has to pay for my service and no one else’s.

Peter: Yep.

Peter: So yeah, as someone who did once own a restaurant, you know, yeah, I would love to own a restaurant that is pretty cool.

Peter: So, but anyway, we’ll see.

Peter: Good luck, Marco.

Scott: Okay.

Scott: And then other entertainment ones that I didn’t talk about.

Scott: Six Colors.

Scott: I could have put that under…

Scott: That’s not necessarily entertainment.

Peter: That’s separate.

Scott: He does a really good job of covering Apple-related stuff and occasionally other technology as well.

Scott: But that’s Jason Snell, formerly editor-in-chief, maybe something of Macworld.

Scott: And then a few years ago, he struck out on his own when the company that owned them kind of went insane and lost their minds.

Scott: And so anyway, Six Colors is good.

Scott: They have a members podcast that he and Dan Moran do, which is really fun to listen to because I like those two guys.

Scott: And Dan Moran also writes for the site, and they also have a few other guest writers like John Maltz and some other people.

Scott: So I like Six Colors.

Scott: It’s well worth paying for if you care at all about Apple.

Scott: And then I like Formula One Racing and the best coverage and the most entertaining hosts who do the best job of really taking their job seriously and doing analysis, but are also just funny together, is The Race.

Scott: It’s The Race with a hyphen in it between the and therace.com.

Scott: But The Race is a good one with a good members club and they put out a lot of content for members and they are just funny people with good shows and I enjoy everything about them.

Scott: So they make me happy.

Peter: Okay.

Peter: Not familiar with that one.

Scott: Well, you’re not a Formula One fan.

Scott: So why would you be?

Peter: There you go.

Peter: Cool.

Peter: So yeah, support local independent media.

Peter: Especially if you get value from it.

Peter: I will also say, actually, recently, I have been doing a lot of the guided meditations from Insight Timer.

Peter: And I have been donating periodically to those, the teachers if I, if they have a particularly good meditation.

Peter: So that’s another independent media kind of situation.

Scott: Oh, I forgot.

Scott: I also pay for Wired.

Peter: Wired, yes.

Peter: I stopped.

Peter: I stopped paying for them.

Peter: I might do it again, but their whole subscription process is just mind-numbingly complicated.

Scott: Their website is abysmal, and because of the number of ads, and even with using Safari, which blocks some stuff, you still have to turn on the get rid of annoying things stuff for stuff to load properly.

Scott: Their subscription process, as you say, is dumb and dorky.

Scott: And I keep getting emails from them saying, subscribe to see the whole thing.

Scott: And I’m like, I am a subscriber, you idiots, what do I have to do?

Scott: But I get access to everything I need.

Scott: Now, and I do enjoy reading their magazines, whether it be physical or digital, more than I enjoy their website.

Scott: Cause like I said, their website is, it’s like The Verge, if The Verge didn’t care about user experience in terms of throwing stuff in that shifts and readjusts and has terrible performance.

Peter: Yep.

Scott: So they could be a good website if they would just take some of that crap out.

Scott: But anyway, I do pay for Wired because they do have well researched articles.

Scott: They’re way less techno utopian than they were in the early days.

Peter: Okay.

Scott: When they basically believed everything that every, you know, they believed all these things would happen.

Scott: We would all live forever.

Scott: We would all have…

Peter: Tech will save us.

Scott: Yeah, tech will save us.

Scott: And they’ve veered away from that in recent years.

Scott: And they do cover good stuff and they do have good reporting.

Scott: So their website and subscription service aside, their magazine is good and I pay for it.

Peter: Sweet.

Peter: All right.

Peter: Well, there we go.

Scott: That’s about it, Peter.

Peter: We’ve covered it off.

Peter: I think we’re good.

Peter: We should wrap it up.

Scott: Oh, did I mention I also support Friends with Brews?

Scott: It’s a little independent podcast that’s apparently looking to host right now.

Peter: I never heard of them.

Scott: Okay.

Peter: No, no, no, nothing.

Scott: The only problem with them is they agree on everything.

Scott: Like if Peter experiences something, Scott always agrees with how it’s gone.

Scott: They always have the identical tech problems.

Scott: They never say, that never happened to me, or it must be you.

Peter: That sounds lame.

Scott: I’m trying to make you feel better about our friendship, Peter.

Peter: That sounds lame.

Scott: Oh, my God.

Scott: Okay.

Peter: Oh, man.

Peter: All right, listeners.

Peter: If you want to find us, you already have, but you can find us again at friendswithbrews.com.

Scott: And again and again.

Peter: And again and again.

Peter: Scott, you’re on Mastodon at something that’s social.law, right?

Scott: Yep.

Scott: Scott Wilsey, I think.

Peter: Scott Wilsey.

Peter: Yeah, at social.law.

Peter: That’s you.

Peter: Yeah.

Scott: And I’m on BlueSky at scottwilsey.com.

Scott: That’s my username.

Peter: And…

Scott: Go ahead.

Scott: What’s your BlueSky?

Peter: My BlueSky at peternikolaidis.com.

Scott: What’s your…

Scott: did you say you’re Mastodon already?

Peter: At nikolaidis at infosec.exchange.

Scott: And did you say your website already?

Scott: Mine is scottwilsey.com, just like my BlueSky, except with an HTTPS in front of it.

Peter: You know, you could probably just say peternikolaidis.com also, but it’s pn72.com at the moment, so yeah, there you go.

Scott: I like that, I like that.

Scott: That number, though…

Scott: now, you are a security expert.

Scott: Yep.

Scott: You’ve given people a piece of information in that domain name, Peter.

Peter: How do you know that?

Peter: It’s random.

Peter: How do you know it’s not a completely random number?

Scott: Because I just told everybody.

Peter: Yeah, well, thank you.

Peter: So you are not a security expert.

Scott: I’m just saying, it wouldn’t be hard for people to figure that out, especially if they ever see a picture of you.

Peter: It is out there, dude, that info is out there.

Peter: It’s not like I, you know, you know what I should just do?

Peter: I should just register my social security number as my website.

Scott: You should register someone else’s social security number as your website.

Peter: That’s a good docs.

Peter: I like that.

Scott: Okay.

Scott: On that note, do you have a button or anything that you like to push when you’re red?

Peter: I just look for the biggest reddest button I can find and I push it.

Scott: Tell your friends.