Episode 84 – Spam and Phishing Are No Exceptions
Scott: Friends with Brews, Lines with Blurrs.
Peter: Hey, dear listener, you may have detected that something else is a little weird with this episode, and you’re right, this is another merger of the Friends with Brews and Blurring the Lines Podcast.
Scott: I want to say it was not a merger, it was a hostile takeover, and I’m not feeling the love, because I got laid off immediately after the hostile takeover.
Peter: Spoken like someone who used to work at Monolith 3000.
Peter: Yes, this is the Blurring the Lines Podcast episode 227.
Peter: And also Friends with Brews, number 84.
Peter: I am your host, Peter Nikolaidis, with me as always, my co-host, Adam Bell, and with me as most of the time, my co-host, Scott Willsey.
Peter: Hey, Peter.
Scott: First you bring up your big number and wave it around in front of everybody.
Scott: And then you say most of the time, sometimes, when I can be bothered.
Peter: When I can be bothered?
Peter: You mean when I’m not being replaced by an AI cheap imitation motor oil drinking copy of me?
Peter: Yeah, you’re right.
Peter: That’s exactly what I mean.
Scott: The AI overlord saw me sitting there waiting, wondering, where’s Peter?
Scott: Why can’t Peter play?
Adam: Did you replace him with one where you just typed it and then there was a head moving like that looked like Peter that was talking?
Scott: That would be great.
Scott: No, because I actually haven’t.
Scott: I created a YouTube channel for Friends with Brews, but it’s just going to be the audio with the FWB logo.
Scott: I’m not going to have our mugs up there.
Adam: Yeah.
Adam: One of my clients, they were asking me to look at billing things.
Adam: One of their employees bought this AI tool, and it actually looked pretty cool.
Adam: You recorded yourself like Siri, you do your head and all that.
Adam: You record, you do some talking, and then all you have to do is submit your text, and then your head starts talking and blinking and expressing, and it’s not as bad as you might think.
Scott: Can you make it spin around in Bazooka Barf like The Exorcist?
Adam: I don’t know.
Scott: By the way, speaking of AIs and voice generation, Peter, I have canceled my 11 Labs prescription.
Scott: I have canceled my 11 Labs prescription delivered to my door once a month, because they don’t want you to impersonate celebrity voices now, so like you can’t make a Donald Trump voice, you can’t make any, but you also almost can’t make any voice.
Scott: Even if it’s like somebody they don’t know, like if I just upload voice from some random person, it goes, oh, you need to verify that this is your voice, and then it has you record your own voice.
Scott: It basically now has gotten to the point where it only lets you clone your own voice.
Scott: And I’m like, why would I do that?
Scott: I can record myself for free.
Scott: I don’t need to pay you guys five bucks a month for the honor of that.
Peter: So interesting.
Peter: I remember you had mentioned that, and I hadn’t looked at it since then, but that’s pretty much a deal breaker for me.
Scott: Yeah, I don’t think they intend to be that harsh, but it is that harsh.
Scott: For sure, they mean to block you from using voices that they know, like that anyone would know.
Scott: Anyway, big disappointment.
Adam: Is that an NIL deal?
Adam: You can’t do that?
Scott: NIL?
Adam: Near Image Likeness or?
Scott: Oh, I don’t know.
Scott: I don’t know.
Adam: Like the football players?
Scott: I think they probably just don’t want lawsuits or something.
Peter: You know, that’s interesting that 11 Labs is taking that tack when everybody else, like, you know, ChatGPT, Open AI, Google Image Generator, have all just like gone off the rails with their image generation, saying, safety filters, do whatever you want.
Scott: I figure those guys have not only stolen the entire internet so far and gotten away with it, but they also have more representation than 11 Labs.
Scott: 11 Labs is undoubtedly a smaller company than Open AI.
Scott: And Open AI has already dared the world to sue them anyway.
Peter: So I don’t know if it was dare.
Peter: I think it was just like, no, come at us, bro, right?
Peter: We’re waiting.
Peter: Come sue us, please.
Peter: Now, I mean, you think about that, though, the Meadows, the Googles, the Open AIs are, you know, in bed with the current administration.
Peter: I think they’re like, yeah, we’re good.
Peter: Oh, and the Grox.
Peter: Don’t forget the Grox.
Scott: I don’t want to picture any of those people in bed.
Peter: Oh, someone’s already done that for us.
Adam: You know, it’s funny, I did, because I heard Grox and I had to look it up, what it was.
Adam: And apparently, Elon had created his own chat channel before Twitter, and he called it X, and it didn’t get anywhere.
Scott: Right.
Adam: So then he ended up buying Twitter, you know, he bought Twitter and then named it X.
Peter: Yeah, now he likes X everything, SpaceX, Elon X, X wives.
Adam: X wives, yeah.
Scott: X children, he denounces them if they don’t subscribe to his exact political views.
Scott: Which by the way, is that the point of having children is to replicate and program your views into them, or is it that they’re actually their own separate human beings who can decide things for themselves?
Peter: No, I thought the whole point was to get more votes, you know, for those few that you can’t buy.
Scott: That’s true.
Peter: Hey, before we go on, we should tell everybody what we’re drinking, because this is an episode of Friends with Brews.
Scott: Oh.
Peter: So we have to have some brews.
Scott: Oh.
Scott: Does Peter have something besides water?
Peter: Peter has a nice piping hot cup of Taylor’s of Harrogate’s…
Peter: Oh, I forget the name.
Peter: Now I got to look it up.
Peter: See what you did to me.
Scott: The Pirates of the…
Peter: I am drinking…
Scott: Parrot Hole?
Scott: What?
Peter: Taylor’s of Harrogate’s…
Scott: Okay, start over and say it from beginning to end.
Peter: Taylor’s of Harrogate’s.
Peter: It’s a proper English tea.
Scott: Okay.
Scott: Got it.
Peter: It’s Yorkshire…
Peter: Thank you.
Peter: Now I can’t remember.
Peter: It’s their Yorkshire Red Tea.
Peter: That’s what I’m having.
Peter: And the slogan on the box says, Let’s have a proper brew.
Peter: So I’m having it, and I’m having it proper, like an Englishman would have it.
Scott: Okay, hold on.
Peter: With lemon.
Scott: With lemon.
Scott: I have to send a message to an Australian man.
Scott: Dear John, Peter couldn’t be bothered to have an actual brew when you were on, but he’s having one now.
Scott: Love your friend, possibly an AI, Watts Skilsey.
Peter: Just make sure you send it as a direct message and not as a group chat.
Scott: Oh, whoops.
Scott: It went to Pete Hegseth, and he sent me…
Scott: I don’t know.
Peter: That’s okay.
Peter: He’ll be joining the podcast any moment now.
Scott: Actually, he sent me a picture of his bottle, whatever he’s drinking.
Scott: Okay, Adam, what are you drinking?
Scott: You’re drinking from a bottle.
Scott: It’s not a Pete Hegseth sized bottle, but it…
Adam: Stella Artois.
Adam: So I went into the big Metro-Polliton area of Loboville.
Scott: It sounds huge.
Peter: It sounds huge.
Adam: And I perused the beer cave, and I like Stella Artois, so they had other things, but mostly the non-domestics, which are pretty domesticated non-domestics.
Adam: But I like this.
Adam: And it’s got a fancy top and everything.
Scott: So it does have a fancy top.
Adam: So there are no rat droppings on my top.
Scott: What?
Peter: That’s fancy.
Scott: Is that a thing?
Scott: Did I…
Scott: have I missed something?
Adam: Yeah, like when you drink beer out of a can, you don’t know what’s been dropped on the top of a can.
Scott: Yeah, I know.
Scott: I joke with my wife that she…
Scott: Whenever I see her drinking anything out of a can, I’m like, why don’t you just drive around a pickup and throw it in the bed when you’re done?
Scott: I mean, it’s…
Scott: I don’t drink anything out of cans.
Scott: It goes in a glass.
Peter: I mean, that’s better than just throwing it out the window.
Scott: It’s true.
Scott: It’s true.
Scott: I used to work years ago when I started at Monolith 3000.
Scott: There was somebody whose truck, their pickup truck would be in the parking lot and the beer can pile would just be slowly getting higher over the months.
Scott: Yeah.
Scott: You know, they’re just driving down the road, tossing them in as they go.
Adam: You know, that’s how you get good at drunk driving is when you get done with your can, if you’re still, if you can still drive and toss it out the window and it goes back in the bed.
Adam: I mean, that’s a thing.
Scott: It is.
Peter: Yeah, because the wind, the wind.
Scott: Yeah, and the wind, that’s the funny thing too is I was like, how do they keep those in there?
Scott: Because when I threw a couple diet Coke cans in the back and they blow up behind the back window and they almost go out, but then they come swooshing back up behind the back window again.
Peter: Is that a Dodge Ford Chevy thing?
Peter: Like is one of them going to be better at it, better engineered to keep the cans down?
Scott: I don’t know.
Adam: I think Ford’s the best.
Adam: They’ve got the best kind of slipstream that’s happening there.
Scott: This was the old square Ford truck.
Scott: There’s no slipstream.
Scott: It’s just a brick ramming through the air.
Peter: There’s no slipping.
Adam: The stream goes around it and sucks it back to you.
Scott: Could be, yeah.
Scott: And fittingly enough, it was Budweiser Cans, so that pretty much worked.
Peter: Well, I mean, that goes without saying.
Peter: I suppose it could be Miller Lite.
Peter: So I had an interesting experience a couple of days ago.
Scott: What about my drink, Peter?
Peter: Man, you can take all day.
Peter: I mean, like, okay, fine.
Peter: Let’s hear about what you’re drinking, Scott.
Peter: Then I’ll wait.
Peter: And then I’ll get to my story.
Scott: I’m so sorry that I wanted to participate in the drinking part of this podcast.
Scott: I’m having a forecast coffee company, Yonder Coffee, and this coffee is dark chocolate with roasted nuts.
Scott: And I don’t want to go down the roasted nuts rabbit hole.
Scott: But what?
Peter: But you just did.
Scott: But it’s good.
Scott: I taste them.
Scott: I taste the, oh, jeez, I taste the roasted nuts and I taste the dark chocolate.
Scott: Peter, it’s your fault.
Scott: You did this.
Scott: You line blurring.
Scott: You nut job blurring.
Scott: You nut blurring.
Peter: I don’t know.
Adam: We gotta be careful to the bleep.
Scott: Yeah, we gotta be careful to the bleep, but we also gotta be careful what we blur on the video portion of this podcast.
Scott: Anyway, whatever.
Scott: Anyway, that’s what I’m having.
Scott: It’s good.
Scott: I like it.
Scott: It comes in a yellow bag.
Scott: You can get it at Fred Meyer, which you guys don’t know about because you live in inferior parts of the inferior country that we’re currently living in.
Peter: So Scott’s nuts come in a yellow bag.
Peter: Got it.
Scott: I roasted nuts.
Adam: Do you put any sugar or creamer in there?
Adam: All natural.
Scott: All black.
Scott: And as I’ve stated to Peter, my drinking methodology for drinking something on Friends with Brews is I won’t put anything in it because I want to be able to say whether or not I taste what they say I’m supposed to, instead of tasting oat milk or whatever.
Scott: Now, earlier today, I had a cup of this with oat milk in it.
Scott: But right now I’m drinking it black and I like it.
Scott: That’s how I usually drink my coffee anyway.
Scott: If I can’t drink it black, it’s not coffee that I want to buy.
Scott: Let’s put it that way.
Peter: I usually do that same methodology, right?
Peter: Because I want to taste what the coffee is that I’m drinking.
Scott: Yeah.
Peter: But often, if my first sip generates a shudder and I’m like, that’s where I add a little cream and if that doesn’t work, add a little sugar and if that doesn’t work, throw it out into the compost pile.
Peter: So back to my story.
Scott: We were on a story.
Scott: I can’t remember, but I know it’s funny.
Peter: Well, that’s because it’s my story, right?
Peter: So let me tell it.
Scott: Oh, out.
Peter: So as with everything marketing, it’s a numbers game and I’m sure Adam, you get this, right?
Peter: Because you can’t just have a marketing campaign of one letter and hope that you’re going to get a response, right?
Peter: And if you’re in sales, you don’t just dial for dollars, make one phone call and boom, we’re done for the day.
Peter: Spam and phishing are no exceptions.
Peter: And so here’s the thing.
Peter: Now, this was like the perfect storm too.
Peter: This was really interesting.
Peter: I got an email purportedly from one of my old schoolmates.
Peter: She was, I think, a couple of years behind me when I went to school up in Vermont, who worked at the town offices.
Peter: And it said, I forget what the subject line was, but I got an email from the town office, you know, from the subject line and it was from her name.
Peter: And I recognized that.
Peter: I was like, okay, interesting.
Peter: And the email just said, to have a question, sorry, sorry to bother you or whatever, but do you use Amazon?
Peter: And I was like, that’s a weird question.
Peter: But coincidentally, the day before, I had placed an Amazon order and had it shipped to my contractor up in Bethel, Vermont.
Peter: So I thought maybe they couldn’t deliver it.
Peter: Maybe they stopped at the town office for some reason, maybe, you know, because it’s a small town, stuff like that happens.
Peter: It’s like, where do you leave it?
Peter: Oh, well, leave it with the Richardson’s down by their tractor or, you know, leave it at the old farmhouse where the tractor used to be, you know, like that.
Adam: If he’s on the tractor, leave it in the back of his truck with the beer cans.
Peter: Boom, right there, full of beer cans.
Peter: So I thought, oh, like, that’s really odd, but I wonder if that’s what’s going on.
Peter: And so I’m like, so I reply without giving too much.
Peter: I’m like, yes, I do.
Adam: Right.
Peter: Because again, you know, I didn’t want to give away too much information, but I also was like, yeah, this is the typical small town, not very forward thinking type email.
Peter: Like, do you use Amazon?
Peter: I asked because I think I have a package of yours, you know, that’d be way too much effort, right?
Peter: So that’s where I went with that.
Peter: So I just replied, I was like, yes, I do.
Peter: And that’s all I said.
Peter: So, oh, okay, good.
Peter: Well, I was just wondering, can you help me buy some gift cards?
Peter: And so I picked up the phone, and I called the town office.
Peter: And I was like, hi, I’m just wondering is so-and-so there?
Peter: Like, oh no, she doesn’t work here anymore.
Peter: I’m like, oh, okay, interesting.
Peter: I’m calling because I think your email account has been hacked.
Peter: Yes, we’ve been hacked.
Peter: Like, oh, really?
Peter: Okay.
Peter: Yes, we did, but it’s been cleaned up.
Peter: We fixed it this afternoon.
Peter: I was like, okay, when?
Peter: Because it was like two o’clock at the email came at 1.10, right?
Peter: She said, no, we just fixed it.
Peter: So I was like, okay, well, whatever.
Peter: I was like, I mean, I got the sense this person I was talking to wouldn’t really know what was going on anyways.
Peter: I’m not going to belabor it.
Peter: Oh yeah, fine.
Peter: Come to find out, I still have my dad’s old email address functioning because every now and then I still get a relevant email sent to that.
Peter: I checked in his email and he had the same one.
Peter: But the interesting thing was now is the town office, they generally use a comcast.net address as their main.
Peter: The thing that set me off first was the email came from the town office email at outlook.com.
Peter: And I was like, hmm, that’s a little weird.
Peter: But the one that went to my dad came from Comcast.
Peter: So it seemed to me pretty clear they hacked.
Peter: I don’t think they, well, either they use the same password across multiple machines or multiple email accounts.
Scott: No one does that, Peter.
Peter: No, I know.
Peter: I know that.
Peter: Well, maybe in Bethesda.
Peter: Or the computer itself got taken over and, you know, they just started doing a spray and pray like that.
Peter: But I thought that was very funny.
Peter: But again, under normal circumstances, I would have just like, this is a scam, right?
Peter: But it was the perfect timing because I was like, did those door handles that I had sent to my contractor get dropped off at the town office for some reason?
Peter: You know?
Scott: This is how it happens to people.
Scott: Corey Doctorow got fish this way.
Scott: What’s the Have I Been Pwned guy, Troy Hunt, got fish that way?
Peter: Troy Hunt.
Scott: You’re busy doing something and you’re on a trip or something and they send something that seems relevant to something you might need to do.
Scott: And you just do it in a hurry.
Scott: And the next thing you know.
Peter: So luckily this time I did take the first bait.
Peter: I was just like, yes, I do, but I didn’t give them any info.
Peter: Oh my goodness.
Peter: I was so close to running down to the drug store to buy some gift cards.
Scott: If it would have just said Hot Singles in your area, Peter would have answered, but it said Hot 90-year-old Singles in your area.
Scott: And he was like, no, that’s a little too.
Scott: 60 or 70 maybe.
Peter: Had me then you lost me.
Adam: I had Coinbase emailed me this morning.
Scott: Really?
Adam: And they were saying, oh, we’ve got an agreement update, click here to read the agreement update.
Adam: And I’m like, well, I haven’t dealt with Coinbase in eight years.
Adam: And I figured, oh, where they’re sending the email to my old Sublime account, I’m going to unsubscribe.
Adam: There was no unsubscribe in the email.
Adam: Like, well, y’all suck in your marketing.
Adam: So I hit, I meant to, I actually meant to hit, send it to my other inbox and always send it to the other inbox because I don’t care because I don’t use Coinbase anymore.
Adam: I accidentally hit phishing and it sent it to our company filtering team.
Adam: And they’re like, yeah, good catch.
Adam: This was phishing.
Adam: I’m like, really?
Adam: I mean, I didn’t click anything in it, but it just annoyed me because I was like, I don’t need, I don’t have Coinbase anymore.
Adam: But they knew that I had Coinbase at some point because it didn’t even originate from them.
Scott: Interesting.
Adam: Or it could have been random.
Scott: It might have been, but I don’t trust Coinbase to tell anybody if they got hacked.
Adam: No.
Adam: Good thing all my Bitcoin is not there anymore.
Scott: All your ex Bitcoin live in Texas or what’s that sound?
Peter: Oh man.
Adam: So what I was doing, sorry for being late by the way.
Scott: Oh, that’s okay.
Scott: Peter just didn’t tell me.
Scott: He told you.
Adam: So I have contractors down here.
Adam: And where I live in Loboville, I mentioned the metro area.
Adam: It is very, very difficult to get anybody to do anything.
Adam: And it really doesn’t matter how much money you offer them.
Adam: They’re like, oh, no, it’s too far.
Adam: I’m like, I will pay you $1,000 a mile to go out of your way to go out there.
Adam: No, it’s just too far.
Scott: To the farm?
Adam: To the farm.
Adam: And it’s 90 minutes outside of Nashville.
Adam: I mean, Peter does that every weekend to go to Vermont.
Adam: I mean, it’s just not that big a deal.
Peter: You’re gonna say when I go for a run?
Adam: Yeah, Peter goes for a 90 minute run.
Adam: I mean, that’s nothing.
Scott: He runs to your lavender farm.
Adam: Yeah.
Adam: So the storms that came through, we washed a lot of bank out.
Adam: We got 12 inches of rain in Lobelville.
Adam: We only got six in Nashville, but we got 12 here.
Adam: So it really eroded our bank.
Adam: And I had, I mean, he called on, I called him on Monday.
Adam: He’s like, yeah, I can come out tomorrow.
Adam: Like, well, come on.
Adam: So he was finishing up and he was pulling together my bill for me and it’s amazing.
Adam: I’ll send you guys pictures.
Adam: It came and eroded into my field, probably 15 feet.
Scott: Wow.
Adam: And so he backfilled with the sediment downstream, backfilled into that and then covered it with riprap.
Adam: It’s unbelievable how good of a job he did.
Adam: And so I was out there talking to him and finding how much it was going to cost and pay him because I didn’t want to inconvenience him in any way because I’m sure it would go up in price.
Scott: Yeah.
Scott: And you may never get anyone out there again.
Adam: Yeah.
Scott: Did you lose any usable field or any plants or anything?
Adam: No, I didn’t lose any, but long term, if I just let it go, I would eventually.
Scott: Yeah.
Adam: But yeah.
Adam: So we were fortunate in that, but I lost trees.
Adam: So I’m going to have to come back with, so we’re going to mitigate that with bamboo.
Adam: Bamboo is really good against flooding.
Adam: Willow is the next best thing because willow is a fast growing water tree, and bamboo is a fast growing water grass.
Scott: Yeah.
Adam: But bamboo is sometimes considered a pest.
Adam: People don’t want it because it just grows and grows.
Scott: It does, yeah.
Scott: It gets out of control.
Adam: But we’ve already got bamboo here, so.
Scott: And it grows fast.
Adam: Yeah.
Adam: We could transplant it this spring and have a grove of it by next spring.
Scott: Yeah.
Adam: But yeah, you know how you make a small fortune in farming?
Peter: Same way you make a small fortune in food service.
Scott: Yes.
Adam: Start out with a big fortune.
Scott: So you’re paying for the enjoyment of being a farmer.
Scott: That’s what you’re doing.
Adam: Yeah.
Adam: Right now, it seems to be.
Scott: Peter.
Scott: Oh, there it goes again.
Scott: You gotta quit roleplaying blurred roasted nuts.
Peter: I’m going to blame you the next time you have audio issues.
Scott: What camera do you have, Peter?
Scott: What are you using for a camera?
Peter: This is a Logitech, the Logitech HD 1080p, Logi something something.
Adam: That’s exactly what I have.
Peter: The C920 is the model number.
Peter: Nice.
Adam: Yours is more movie than mine.
Adam: I like your movies a lot.
Peter: Movie.
Scott: Peter is a movie star.
Peter: All right.
Peter: So I had started putting together a big long list of things we were watching.
Peter: And it seems like there was a little bit of an opinion on at least one of the shows that Scott and I and Adam have all at least partially watched.
Adam: And so you liked it?
Scott: Yeah.
Peter: Yeah.
Peter: So listeners, and I’ll say listeners at this point, listeners, right?
Peter: Because now we might have one on the Blurring the Lines side and one on the Friends with Brews side.
Adam: Scott’s gonna listen to both podcasts though.
Peter: Yes.
Peter: Well, yes.
Peter: Because one’s, frankly, one is going to sound a lot better than the other.
Peter: Yes, it will.
Peter: So we’re talking about the Apple TV+ series known as Dope Thief, which is on to, what are they, episode six?
Scott: I think we just watched six last night, yeah.
Peter: Right.
Peter: And I did try to watch it last night, but it was, I think it comes out at like nine o’clock Eastern time or so, and I wasn’t watching TV by the time that I was watching a movie at that point.
Peter: But yeah, Dope Thief.
Peter: I am liking it, Adam.
Peter: It is, it’s interesting.
Peter: It’s, you know, a story about, I mean, they give this away in the trailer, right?
Peter: It’s about a guy, apparently a couple of guys, but one’s the main character.
Peter: What they do is they go around robbing small-time drug dealers, pretending to be DEA agents.
Peter: So they show up and they say DEA, and they, you know, like hold everybody up, walk away with the cash and then leave.
Peter: And then they do something where things go wrong and they hit the wrong house.
Peter: And it gets interesting from there.
Scott: They listened to a complete drug addict when he suggested that they hit a specific place.
Scott: And there was a reason he came to them with that, which is revealed later, but…
Scott: Okay.
Peter: Right.
Scott: Right.
Scott: It wasn’t accidental, let’s put it that way.
Adam: So it does get better, because my initial impression was, like you said from the trailer, we know that they have a, you know, their gig.
Adam: What is their, you know, what is their scam?
Adam: They have their scam, and then the scam’s gotta go sideways from the, you know, the whiteboard of it.
Adam: And then the sideways wasn’t interesting enough for me to pursue.
Adam: So I’m gonna give it one more episode to get interested in the sideways.
Adam: And it’s kind of what happens to me, it’s like, yeah, all right, I’ll give it another go.
Adam: That’s what happened with Severance.
Adam: I kept thinking about it, I was like, I wanna know what happens next.
Peter: I’ll tell you, Dope Thief sucked me in a lot faster than Severance.
Peter: It’s not nearly a cerebral, there’s not really like mystery and stuff.
Peter: There are definitely some surprises from time to time.
Peter: But for me, Dope Thief just seems more up my alley, a little more engaging.
Peter: I was like, ooh, I can’t wait.
Peter: Whereas Severance, I kept, I was like, wait, what the hell?
Peter: Who’s, does that mean, oh, I’ve got to sink.
Adam: He’s kind of a Dark Knight Robin Hood.
Adam: I mean, he’s a flawed character.
Peter: Yeah, yeah.
Peter: Except he’s not just robbing from the rich, he’s robbing from the, he’s robbing from the evil.
Scott: He’s robbing from the evil and he’s not enriching anyone else.
Scott: He’s trying to enrich himself.
Scott: I was trying to remember where I saw the main character played by, I’m not the main character with the actor, Brian Tyree Henry.
Scott: And I remember, he was in Bullet Train and he was hilarious in that.
Scott: He was one of the two guys that was-
Adam: Oh, that was him?
Scott: Yeah, he was one of the, he was Lemon or whatever his name was.
Scott: He was one of the guys accosting Brad Pitt or, I don’t remember exactly how it happened, but he was one of those two guys.
Scott: He was with Tangerine, Lemon and Tangerine.
Adam: Yeah.
Scott: I can’t remember what he looked like in Bullet Train, but anyway, he was in that.
Scott: He was Lemon.
Scott: It was him and Tangerine and they wanted to be the biggest hitman or whatever, and it just wasn’t working for him.
Adam: It’s funny how many people really, really like that movie.
Adam: My youngest daughter really, really likes that movie.
Adam: I’m like…
Scott: Bullet Train?
Adam: Yeah.
Scott: I didn’t expect to enjoy it.
Scott: For one thing, I’m not a huge Brad Pitt fan, but I enjoyed it.
Scott: It was a fun movie.
Scott: It was a really good movie.
Scott: It might have helped that I had a couple of beers at night.
Scott: I don’t know, but I enjoyed watching it.
Scott: Was it the greatest movie ever?
Scott: No.
Scott: Was it something worth watching over and over?
Scott: No.
Scott: But was it a fun movie?
Scott: Yeah, it was a fun movie.
Scott: I enjoyed it.
Peter: Yeah, I’d agree.
Adam: It was fun.
Adam: Did you watch Wolves?
Adam: Wolves.
Adam: Not Wolves, but Wolves.
Peter: Yes, Wolves.
Peter: Yes.
Peter: Yep, I did.
Peter: I enjoyed that one.
Peter: Brad Pitt, Brad Pitt, George Clooney.
Adam: George Clooney.
Scott: And my review of it was two charming guys who are no longer charming enough to pull off the stupid script.
Adam: They’re still charming.
Adam: They’re just not as good looking as they used to be.
Scott: They’re, they seemed tired in that movie, which I can relate to, but I’m also not starring in any movies for a reason.
Adam: Yeah.
Adam: George did look a little tired.
Adam: Yeah.
Scott: I don’t know.
Scott: It was okay.
Scott: It was all right.
Scott: It was if I had to choose between that or bullet train 100 percent, I’d go bullet train every single time.
Peter: Yeah.
Adam: The willful suspense of disbelief.
Adam: They’re buddies.
Scott: Yeah.
Peter: Right.
Peter: I thought the kid, when he’s running away, he’s like, hmm.
Scott: Yeah.
Scott: That was the only funny part.
Peter: I was like, who?
Peter: No, I run a lot.
Peter: I never make noises like that when I’m running.
Peter: He’s like, it was like humming.
Scott: Peter, you don’t go running on whatever he was running on.
Peter: Yeah.
Peter: But I have run in barefoot shoes, which are not all that different than socks.
Scott: So he wasn’t feeling anything.
Scott: That guy did not know who he was, where he was.
Scott: All he knew was he wanted to be somewhere else fast.
Peter: So should we keep on this vein of what we’re watching and stuff?
Scott: Go for it.
Scott: Peter, what are you watching right this second, besides this Google Hangout Meet?
Peter: No, right this second, I’m just watching the Blurring the Friends Podcast.
Peter: So yeah, no.
Adam: Last night, we re-watched The Fall Guy on Amazon Prime.
Adam: Have you watched The Fall Guy with the new one?
Peter: No.
Adam: Oh, it’s great.
Peter: Ryan Gosling?
Adam: Yeah.
Adam: That’s a good movie.
Adam: Emily Blunt and what’s his name?
Scott: I really enjoyed that one.
Scott: Yeah.
Adam: And it’s on Prime.
Scott: Ryan Gosling.
Adam: So you can watch it, Ryan Gosling.
Adam: And I guess it’s free if you have Prime with a little commercial time.
Scott: Is there anybody better than Ryan Gosling at portraying the emotion of this is going to suck, and I hate every second of it, but I’m doing it because it’s what I got to do.
Scott: And he’s just so good at that consigned attitude.
Scott: It’s perfect.
Scott: Yeah, he’s good.
Scott: They’re both good.
Scott: Him and Emily Blunt, we’re both really good in this.
Peter: Yeah.
Scott: It’s funny.
Adam: Y’all are missing it, Peter.
Scott: Yeah, you got to watch it.
Peter: I will make a note.
Scott: It’s a, you’re going to think you won’t like it because it comes across as just like this romantic comedy thing and you’re like, whatever, but it’s hilarious.
Scott: It’s really funny.
Adam: Well, the cool thing is it’s an action movie about action movie.
Adam: And so there’s so much really done.
Adam: It was really done well, the action.
Peter: Yep.
Scott: It was on my list of things to check out, but the action is really well done, but it’s not one of those movies where it just throws unbelievable action at you.
Scott: And the only reason you would like it is if you’re into action movies and that’s all.
Scott: But the bonus is that the action is amazingly well done.
Scott: And it’s part of the story, but they don’t make it the story.
Scott: It’s so good.
Scott: It really well done.
Peter: Well, last night I watched Sicario for the second time around.
Scott: The first one with Emily Blunt?
Peter: Yeah, the first one, 2015.
Scott: That movie, when I first watched that, I thought it was my favorite movie ever.
Scott: Just because when you’re watching it, it sucks you in.
Scott: That is intense.
Peter: So I watched it some time after it had come out.
Peter: I mean, it came out 10 years ago, right?
Peter: So I had forgotten a lot, but all I remembered was like this joint operation between like the Texas Rangers, Delta Force, the FBI, you know, like I was like, who brought all these people together again?
Peter: And so I definitely had forgotten some of it, and you know, I won’t give anything away.
Peter: But I was pleased to find out that there was a sequel that came out in 2018.
Peter: So I’m putting that on my to do list to watch too.
Scott: Is it a sequel or is it just a, I don’t know if it’s a sequel.
Scott: It’s the same Benicio del Toro.
Scott: It’s the same people.
Scott: But well, and it blunts on it.
Scott: It doesn’t carry out, it doesn’t pick up where that story came from.
Peter: This is me though.
Adam: It says Sicario number two in 2018.
Scott: It’s got Braul and Benicio del Toro in it.
Peter: Yeah, Braul and Josh Braul.
Peter: Yeah.
Adam: There’s a number three.
Scott: But here’s the thing.
Scott: No, no, no, no.
Scott: It’s not a sequel though, because if you watch it, they come across as way more sympathetic and as good guys than they do in the first one.
Scott: In the first one, both of those guys are undoubtedly evil.
Scott: Like they wreck her, they destroy her, and they feel nothing about it except get out of our way.
Scott: Because we are doing what we’re doing.
Scott: They’re not like that in the second one.
Scott: They are totally different people.
Scott: In fact, Josh Braulin in particular is a totally different type of person.
Scott: He is way more of a sympathetic character in that one than he.
Scott: In the first one, you would say, if she put a gun to his head and pulled the trigger, you would be rooting her on.
Scott: Same with Benicio del Toro.
Scott: If she had killed him during that scene in her apartment, you would have been going, that was the right thing to do.
Scott: But not in the second one.
Scott: They’re not like that.
Peter: So, funny you mentioned that, because I just googled Sicario 2, and the first result, Sicario 2, Day of the Soldado.
Peter: There’s a Reddit link.
Peter: Sicario 2 is one of the weirdest sequels I’ve ever seen.
Peter: Sicario 2 in Bunny Rabbit Ears isn’t a sequel.
Peter: The writer made two scripts.
Peter: That’s probably why you don’t understand it.
Peter: They just wrote the second script.
Scott: Yeah, they’re totally different people.
Scott: They’re not the same people.
Scott: I mean, they’re the same people, but they’re not the same.
Scott: They are not the evil, malignant.
Scott: We’re going to do everything no matter what, no matter how many laws we have to break.
Peter: And we don’t ever find their names in the movie, right?
Peter: In Sicario, the first one?
Scott: I don’t remember.
Scott: They mention their names, yeah.
Peter: We just know one’s Medellin and one’s CIA.
Scott: They mention their names.
Adam: And Josh Brolin, I like him.
Peter: Yeah, he’s pretty good.
Adam: He was in The Goonies.
Scott: Yeah.
Peter: He was also in The Avengers.
Adam: Oh, was he?
Peter: Yeah, it’s Thanos.
Adam: I didn’t watch The Avengers.
Adam: I mean, I know.
Scott: Good for you, Adam.
Adam: I know.
Scott: I’m with you.
Adam: I’m not against it.
Adam: I just…
Scott: I’m against it.
Scott: I wasn’t.
Scott: But then they kept making them, and they kept making them, and they kept making them, and they kept making them.
Scott: And they made 25 in one year.
Scott: And in the 25th one…
Adam: And now it’s just the Batman.
Scott: Right.
Scott: And then they kill half the population of the earth, including Iron Man.
Scott: But then there’s an alternate history.
Scott: I don’t even understand it.
Scott: And even my daughter, who started off loving The Avengers, she was so sick of him by the time.
Scott: She was like, I can’t even do this anymore.
Scott: And I was like, I know.
Adam: You can’t kill Tony Stark.
Adam: I mean, he’s the best.
Scott: Right.
Scott: But they did.
Adam: In one universe.
Scott: And they had big chunky drunk Thor, which was kind of funny, but it just went on forever.
Adam: Was it like…
Peter: Yeah.
Adam: It was like Fat Bastard.
Peter: Fat Bastard and Thor.
Scott: Yeah.
Scott: Feeling sorry for himself.
Adam: Mike Myers played him.
Scott: Oh, right.
Scott: That kicked in my belly.
Adam: I want to eat your baby.
Peter: That was bad.
Peter: That was bad.
Scott: Anyway, we’re done picking on your favorite movie of all time, Peter.
Peter: So that’s what I watched last night, and it was good.
Peter: It was definitely better the second time around.
Peter: So yeah, I liked it.
Scott: What about you, Adam?
Scott: You rewatched something last night.
Scott: What did you rewatch?
Scott: Oh, The Fall Guy.
Adam: Yeah, The Fall Guy.
Adam: That one was good.
Adam: Well, and of course, we love Ted Lasso.
Scott: Yeah, Ted Lasso is good.
Scott: Yeah.
Adam: We’ve watched the series three times now.
Scott: I’ll tell you what movie I rewatched recently that I used to really love.
Scott: And when I rewatched it, I realized I don’t really like this movie, and that is To Live and Die in LA, which is, when was it made?
Scott: Sometime in the 80s?
Peter: I don’t remember.
Scott: 85.
Scott: Do you remember the guy who became the original Grissom in CSI?
Adam: Yeah, yeah.
Scott: He’s the main character.
Scott: He’s William Peterson.
Scott: He’s the FBI guy or whatever they are.
Scott: Are they FBI or are they…
Scott: Who are the guys who protect the president and do the treasury stuff?
Scott: Secret Service.
Adam: Secret Service.
Peter: Secret Service.
Scott: But William Defoe is the bad guy.
Scott: He’s the counterfeiter.
Adam: Oh yeah, he plays a good bad guy.
Scott: William Defoe is always good.
Scott: He is just…
Scott: William Defoe is funny.
Scott: I saw an interview with him at one point.
Scott: He was discussing his characters, and there’s one character where he’s just so outlandish and over the top, he’s just grinning down at some guy, and they were like, did you feel like you were doing a little bit too much when you did that role?
Scott: And he goes, no.
Scott: He goes, I have this really expressive face, and I just have to use it sometimes.
Scott: But anyway, I rewatched this movie and there was no one likable in it.
Scott: They were all horrible.
Scott: Rick Masters is the counterfeiter, and William Peterson plays this guy called Richard Chance, and he’s just horrible.
Scott: He just uses everybody.
Scott: He’s just insane.
Scott: He does the craziest, craziest things to try to catch this counterfeiter, because the counterfeiter killed his partner right before his partner was due to retire.
Scott: And so he just goes off the rails, and he just drags his new partner into a world of crap with him.
Scott: And it’s okay, but there was an amazing car scene where they’re going the wrong way on a freeway.
Scott: That was pretty good, and there was a couple other things that were pretty good, but all in all, I’m like, I don’t know why I liked this as much as I did.
Scott: It’s just nothing redeemable about any of these people.
Adam: So speaking of 80s, last night, we watched Moonlighting.
Scott: The whole thing?
Adam: No, no, no, just the first episode of Moonlighting.
Adam: I think it’s on Prime.
Adam: And I wondered if it’s…
Adam: I haven’t watched it since the 80s.
Scott: Right.
Adam: And we wondered if it still stood up.
Adam: I don’t know, it’s still kind of up in the air.
Adam: But, you know, Noir and Detective kind of…
Adam: it kind of surpasses time because they’re kind of the same.
Scott: It does, yeah, right.
Adam: But the 80s stuff is really amusing.
Adam: Mike, you know what would have been awesome?
Adam: Is if Prime, they have to add commercials, if they could have dropped the 80s commercials in there.
Scott: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Scott: You know what series did that was Mr.
Scott: Robot?
Scott: They would drop weird commercials in there every now and then.
Scott: And then they had one where the whole episode was framed as though it was an 80s sitcom, because he was like out of his mind.
Scott: And it was like Alf or something like that.
Scott: It was hilarious.
Peter: Speaking of Mr.
Peter: Robot, I want to see The Amateur, which opened yesterday in Peter’s, it’s a Remy Malek movie.
Peter: The critics gave it something like in the 60s, but the popcorn meter on Rotten Tomatoes was like 84, 85 percent.
Peter: So yeah, yeah.
Scott: Yeah, that’s a good looking.
Peter: Yeah.
Peter: I might try to catch that this weekend.
Peter: So that’s what I’m watching and what I’m going to watch.
Peter: There you go.
Scott: Nice.
Adam: I was looking at the Live and Die in LA, the IMDB.
Adam: So John Torturro is in that, apparently.
Scott: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Scott: He’s good in that.
Scott: He plays this total slimy guy.
Scott: He’s just so good at it.
Scott: John Torturro is awesome.
Peter: Does his name mean torture?
Adam: Torturro.
Adam: I don’t know.
Adam: It might be.
Adam: But I always think of him in The Big Lebowski.
Scott: See, I didn’t, I don’t remember much about that.
Scott: I remember I started watching it and I was just like, I don’t, I don’t know about this.
Scott: Cause I don’t, I’m not a Goodman fan and I’m not really much of a, who’s Jeff Bridges?
Scott: Yeah.
Adam: Yeah.
Adam: Well, I really like The Big Lebowski.
Adam: The Big Lebowski is, I’ve had a crap week at work and I need my brain to stop thinking about work.
Adam: So a beer and The Big Lebowski will take that all away.
Scott: The Beer Bowski.
Scott: When I worked at Intel, there was a guy who was just always saying, saying from the dude, the dude abides and all this other stuff.
Scott: And I was like, get away from me.
Peter: Thinking of that, there’s another Tron sequel.
Peter: What sequel?
Scott: Yes, Tron.
Peter: Tron.
Adam: And number three?
Peter: Number three.
Peter: Yes.
Peter: Yeah.
Scott: I can’t remember what they call it.
Peter: They Westworld it though.
Peter: So this time the programs come into the real world.
Peter: Right.
Adam: Yeah.
Scott: I will watch that.
Scott: I will say it’s too bad that Daft Punk isn’t doing the soundtrack again.
Scott: I still listen to some of those songs.
Scott: They’re so good.
Peter: Nine Inch Nails, you know.
Scott: Who?
Peter: I think they’ll be okay.
Scott: Who?
Peter: Nine Inch Nails is doing the soundtrack for it.
Scott: I’m not a NIN fan.
Adam: Well, I do like Nine Inch Nails, but in small doses, not, I mean, I don’t want to listen to a day of them, but I’ve got some of my favorite songs, but I saw there was like Trent Reznor before Nine Inch Nails, and he was in this 80s, it was like watching Trent Reznor do Wham.
Scott: Yeah.
Adam: Wake me up before you go go.
Scott: Nine Inch Nails, where are they from?
Scott: Wikipedia.
Scott: They were formed in Cleveland, Ohio, so no, they’re not near me.
Scott: They’re closer to you than they are to me.
Adam: They were trying to get in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, which is in Cleveland.
Scott: Why wouldn’t they be?
Scott: I would think they would be.
Adam: Are they rock and roll?
Scott: Just because I don’t like them, I’m not, well, they’re a kind of rock and roll.
Scott: They’re not, I mean, rock and roll encompasses a lot of music.
Scott: I guess if you want to be, I mean, they’re defined as an industrial rock band, so that’s rock and roll.
Scott: I mean, it’s not typical rock and roll.
Scott: It’s not, you know, Gibson or whoever would have pooped his pants if he would have heard them, but you know, they are rock and roll.
Scott: And even though I don’t like them, I totally recognize their contribution and their popularity.
Scott: I would think they would be in there, or they could be in there.
Adam: What’s funny is we had a truck when we were in Belize, and the windshield wipers went on, and I swear it was to the beat of Closer.
Adam: It was like, I can’t say the lyrics.
Scott: I see for some reason in my mind, and this is to show you how dumb I am, for a while I kept confusing Nine Inch Nails with, what’s the Australian one where the singer committed suicide?
Adam: NXS?
Scott: Yes.
Peter: NXS?
Peter: What’s the similarity is there?
Scott: None.
Scott: There is not, except they have an in.
Peter: Fair enough.
Scott: I would say I’d probably listen to Nine Inch Nails over NXS, honestly.
Adam: Well, it’s funny is, when I was in high school, I pronounced that as inks.
Peter: A lot of people did.
Scott: You’re not the only one.
Adam: Yeah.
Adam: Why do y’all like inks?
Adam: It’s NXS.
Scott: Why do you like inks?
Scott: Well, they’re handy for drawing with.
Scott: We use them in art clubs.
Scott: Peter is sending me very disturbing memes, and I just…
Peter: I sent it to Adam as well.
Peter: Cool.
Peter: Well, that’s what we watch and what we got to watch.
Scott: Yep.
Peter: I also, I just started this morning, started reading Abundance, the new book by Ezra Klein.
Peter: And I’m only in chapter one, so I can’t really give it a review just yet, but FYI, that’s what I’m reading now.
Adam: You talk about reading things, so I’m going to go back and read Foundation.
Adam: Peter and I talked about Foundation on Apple.
Scott: Yeah, yeah.
Adam: It got better and interesting.
Adam: It was slightly interesting.
Adam: The cinematics were interesting.
Adam: Some of the dynamics of some of the characters, I was like, I don’t care, but it did get interesting.
Adam: But I think I would like to go back and read the books.
Adam: I mean, Asimov was really out there and also did some really good stuff.
Scott: I will say one thing though, and that is that Lee Pace, I never cared for him in Halt and Catch Fire.
Scott: That was just something that I thought, you know, nerds liked because it was nerdy and it wasn’t really that great.
Scott: It was okay.
Scott: Lee Pace is like a god as an emperor, you know what I mean?
Scott: He is so good in that role.
Scott: And he’s like, he’s just a physical specimen too.
Scott: Like he is perfect for that part of that guy who just feels like he owns the universe and nobody should get in his way.
Scott: He’s just perfect.
Adam: Yeah, I look like that when I take my shirt off, but I’m not going to.
Scott: Right, right, right, right, right.
Adam: Not right now, maybe later.
Adam: I mean, Peter and I are like, you’re like twins.
Scott: Oh, I see.
Scott: You guys are always taking your shirts off together, comparing each other’s.
Scott: But that reminds me, though, Adam, speaking of that, there was one scene where I don’t remember what they’re doing to him.
Scott: The doctors are doing something to him and he’s completely naked.
Scott: And he just turns around and faces his underling completely naked.
Scott: And he just he’s enjoying the discomfort of the kid so much.
Scott: Like the kid is like not wanting to look at him and kind of embarrassed or whatever.
Scott: And he’s just basically laughing in his face.
Adam: Yeah.
Scott: Behold my royal scepter.
Adam: Yeah.
Scott: It’s good.
Scott: It’s a good.
Scott: I don’t know.
Scott: I like that show.
Scott: I like Jared.
Scott: Jared Harris’s character.
Scott: There’s there are things not to like about it.
Scott: But overall, I think it’s very well done.
Scott: And I know that it’s a divergence from the books and all.
Scott: But I think that it’s a I think it’s a well done divergence.
Scott: I’m okay with if they’re done well.
Scott: I’m okay with TV shows and movies diverging from a book.
Scott: Because if they’re telling a slightly different story, that’s fine.
Scott: As long as they’re done well, that’s fine.
Scott: Because then you can enjoy both.
Adam: You know what a good story told indicator is?
Adam: When you somewhat empathize with the bad guy.
Adam: Because I was, towards the end, I’m like, well, no, I don’t want Empire to be destroyed.
Adam: Or I don’t want Empire to nuts.
Adam: And he’s clearly the bad guy.
Scott: Yeah.
Adam: So that’s a good story when you’re drawn into the bad guy.
Scott: But it helps that he has multiple stages of his life at all at once.
Scott: And so you empathize with those too.
Scott: Like you definitely empathize with the younger guy who realizes that he is genetically different in some way.
Scott: And what does that mean?
Scott: That gives you empathy.
Scott: And then the older guys, of course, you start having empathy because they’re getting pushed out of the way.
Scott: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Scott: But they’re getting pushed out of the way and they’re starting to realize it.
Scott: And they’re a different character than they were when they were young and they felt like they were a god.
Scott: So it’s complex.
Scott: Yeah, it’s complex.
Scott: You don’t have to wait to see the same guy get older and see what he’s going to be like before you realize there is change here and you have a little bit of empathy.
Scott: Yeah, it’s good.
Scott: It’s really well done.
Scott: But yeah, I should actually go back and read the books, too.
Scott: I have such a long reading list that I’m not getting to right now that I don’t know when I would, but I would like to read the books.
Adam: I read his stuff as a teenager.
Adam: And so I’m like, I probably really enjoy this.
Adam: I might go back and go with them.
Scott: I’m putting this abundance on my reading list, Peter.
Scott: This looks really good.
Peter: So far, it’s good.
Peter: Again, like I said, I’m only in the first chapter, but still off to a good start.
Scott: I don’t know if I’ve ever read anything by Ezra Klein, have I?
Peter: He writes for, I think, The Atlantic and The New York Times.
Scott: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Scott: But I mean, he’s written other books, right?
Peter: I’m pretty sure, pretty sure.
Scott: I don’t think I’ve read any books by him, but yeah, he’s a known character.
Scott: I know who he is.
Scott: I’ve read some stuff that he’s written as far as newspaper stuff or news related stuff, but not books.
Adam: He’s written a lot.
Scott: I’m sure he has, yeah.
Adam: There’s 61 things in Wikipedia.
Scott: Wow.
Peter: That does sound like a lot.
Scott: That does sound like a lot of books.
Adam: Well, not all of them are books, but he’s written some of it’s political, some of it’s other, you know.
Scott: Yeah.
Scott: Washington Post, American Prospect.
Scott: Oh, Why We’re Polarized.
Scott: That’s right.
Scott: I remember reading about that book, but I didn’t want to.
Scott: I’m sure it’s an important topic.
Scott: I don’t want to read about it.
Adam: Muscle tough.
Scott: I’m not going to solve that problem.
Scott: I don’t want to think about it.
Peter: Well, on the topic of not thinking about things, should we not think about wrapping this up?
Scott: We should not think about wrapping this up because I have to not think about picking up my daughter pretty soon.
Adam: She will appreciate you picking her up, I think.
Scott: She will.
Scott: She sent me a message saying that they’re at the coffee shop across from the school.
Scott: They already checked out of school and they’re over there at the coffee shop.
Scott: She lives a charmed life, my daughter.
Scott: She has got the most amazing, I mean, if we could do it over again, none of us would send her to that school that she’s at right now, or at least we would have taken her out for the senior year.
Scott: But in general, she’s got a much easier, she has a way of making her life way more fun than I remember it being when I was in high school.
Adam: Good for her.
Scott: Of course, when we were kids though, we had the benefit of being able to go anywhere and do anything at any time and not have to worry about, our parents didn’t care where we were, we weren’t on leashes and all that.
Scott: So that was a difference too.
Adam: Yeah, I mean, my daughters, I know where they are at all times with their phones.
Scott: Right.
Adam: And if they turn their phones off, they turn off their location, why is your location off?
Adam: I mean, that’s as big as throwing up a flag.
Adam: I’m doing something I shouldn’t be doing.
Adam: I mean, my parents didn’t know what I was doing.
Scott: Right, yep.
Adam: My best friend and I would go on Friday night, like right after school.
Adam: And there was no alcohol, there was nothing nefarious about it.
Adam: He and I would get our bikes, our fishing rods and tackle box and walk as far as we could until dark, down the train tracks and camp there and fish along the river.
Adam: And then we’d go the next day.
Adam: And my parents had no idea where we were.
Adam: We could have been eaten by hobos.
Adam: Yep.
Scott: Or you could have eaten hobos.
Adam: Or you could have eaten hobos.
Peter: They wouldn’t even know.
Peter: There you go.
Peter: All right.
Peter: So why don’t I let each of you guys tell our listeners how they can find us?
Adam: I thought you were going to have a story about eating a hobo.
Scott: I mean, the way you know, I’m reminds me, you know, that was not a good meal.
Peter: I am not eating hobos anymore.
Adam: Indigestion.
Adam: You want to talk about indigestion.
Adam: You eat a hobo and you’ve got some serious problem.
Adam: All right.
Adam: I’ll start.
Adam: And it listener, if we would like your feedback, if you’d like to discuss a particular topic, you can drop us a line at <www.blurringthelinepodcast.com>.
Adam: It should be interesting and not spamming or it will get up in my junk filter.
Adam: And if you want to find out more about our hosts, you got Peter nikolaidis at yogawithpeter.com, friendswithbrews.com, nikolaidis at infosec.exchange, bluesky at peternikolaidis.com, and you can find me at rrlavenderfarm.com.
Adam: And Scott, where can people find you?
Scott: scottWillsey.com.
Scott: Or you can find me at sendmeamazonspam.com.
Scott: Or that’s where you can find Peter.
Scott: If you want to find the Friends with Brews Podcast, that’s at friendswithbrews.com.
Scott: But as Peter always says, you’ve already found us.
Scott: So what are you doing?
Scott: What are you even doing?
Scott: That’s Peter’s question to you.
Scott: So anyway, don’t…
Peter: What are you even doing?
Peter: What are you even?
Adam: What are you even?
Scott: Unlike Adam, I don’t want your feedback, and I don’t want your topic suggestions.
Adam: Unless it’s awesome.
Adam: I mean, tell me something awesome.
Scott: Yeah, yeah, tell me something awesome.
Scott: All right, Peter.
Scott: Thank you.
Scott: Adam, thank you.
Peter: On that note, I’ll do the honors and just hit everybody.
Peter: Just hit the big red button.
Scott: Tell your friends.
Adam: My note summary says, particularly memorable nude scene.
Adam: I mean, it’s time about Lee Pay.
Adam: Apparently, sex sells even on Blurring the Lines and Friends with Brews.
Adam: AI thinks it excels.