Episode 87 – Enemies of Chrome

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Peter doesn’t want to think different, he wants to run different. Scott just wants his automations to run different. They both watch Adam Mockler, and they both have thoughts about the current political discourse.
Transcript

Scott: Friends with Brews.

Scott: Friends with Brews, and Friends with Chrome, and Friends with Mac, and Friends with Notes, and Friends with Audio, and Friends with Video.

Peter: Enemies of Chrome.

Scott: Enemies of Chrome, yes.

Peter: Enemies of Chrome.

Peter: I don’t know that it’s Chrome’s problem.

Peter: I think it’s a Riverside thing, but whatever.

Scott: Well, we’ll figure it out.

Scott: No, it’s not because, no, I don’t think so.

Scott: I think, because I’ve had weird problems with Chrome with other sites doing stupid permission things.

Scott: I don’t know.

Scott: It may be a, it may be, but it’s Chrome’s job to handle, oh, here’s a site.

Scott: Oh, it should prompt you.

Scott: Oh, that’s all built into Chrome.

Peter: Very enough.

Scott: All Riverside can do is say, hey, we’re trying to use the camera and the mic, and Chrome is supposed to handle the prompting of the user and the setting of the permission preference that you decide upon.

Scott: It’s supposed to handle that.

Peter: A wise person I know once said that the only way to make it work is with Chrome.

Peter: So, hey, you know we…

Scott: That’s according to Riverside.

Scott: Well, that’s because Safari doesn’t support some stupid web protocol that they’re using or something.

Scott: I don’t know.

Peter: Or Edge.

Peter: They did say Edge.

Scott: They did say use Edge.

Peter: They didn’t say Chromium.

Scott: Bing and Copilot would have popped up saying, hey, we noticed you’re having problems.

Scott: How about we introduce more problems to help you with your problems?

Peter: Billion.

Peter: That’s wonderful.

Scott: Billion.

Scott: Bing billion.

Peter: Bing.

Peter: So, what are you drinking today, Scott?

Peter: By the way, you’re Scott.

Scott: By the way, you’re Peter.

Scott: I’m having a repeat coffee.

Scott: I haven’t had this on this podcast since 2023, but I had it three times in 2023.

Scott: This is Coava Coffee Roasters SO Blend.

Scott: And as I will remind the person who’s listening, they can go to our website, by the way, and search for all these coffees.

Scott: But they describe it, the roaster describes it as top quality specialty coffees from East Africa, Central and South America offer caramel sweetness, chocolate layered with complex fruit notes and crisp acidity that’s tried and true coffee is the kind of cup you want to drink every day, rich and chocolatey.

Scott: And I have had it personally between now and 2023, just not on the podcast.

Scott: And I said at the time, I like all, oh, no, I’m sorry, let me start over.

Scott: I can’t even tell you what I said.

Scott: Like all Coava coffees, it’s smooth and mellow and I love it.

Scott: Another great one for pour overs.

Scott: This time I didn’t do a pour over though, as you know, I did the, what’s the squishy?

Scott: The AeroPress.

Scott: Squishy.

Scott: Well, it is, you’re squishing air through coffee.

Peter: Squishy.

Scott: Squishy.

Scott: So anyway, that is what I’m having.

Scott: It is a good coffee.

Scott: It is my first coffee of the day.

Scott: It is caffeinated and I need it so, so desperately, Peter.

Scott: I need it so desperately.

Scott: Not desperate regret, desperate need of caffeine.

Peter: Desperate.

Peter: Yes.

Peter: Not, not taste like desperate.

Peter: Yeah.

Peter: What not.

Peter: And I left the, I didn’t bring that specific new one that I gave you, that I showed you this time.

Peter: I should have.

Peter: I wanted to and I completely forgot to.

Peter: So, instead of another non-alcoholic beer today, I am drinking a returning brand, but a new blend of tea.

Peter: This is Taylor’s of Harrogate Yorkshire Gold.

Peter: Now, the astute listener might say, Peter, you’ve already had Taylor’s of Harrogate Yorkshire Tea.

Peter: Yes, I have, but this is Yorkshire Gold.

Peter: So I guess I’m drinking gold now.

Scott: The really astute listener had fired up their own cup of Taylor’s of Harrogate in preparation for you to have your own cup of.

Peter: They could have.

Peter: I don’t know why they would have, but other than being astute, the world needs more astutes, though.

Peter: So yes, you should be astute.

Scott: By the way, if they were gonna do that and they knew what you’re drinking, that astute person would be peeking in your window right now.

Scott: So you might wanna turn around.

Peter: So here’s the thing.

Peter: I’ve got Yorkshire Gold and Yorkshire Tea, which is the red box.

Peter: So I consider them, I think of them as Yorkshire Red and Yorkshire Gold, but they’re both black teas.

Peter: I don’t really know the difference because they both taste like excellent black teas as far as I’m concerned, but I haven’t done like a side by side, and I haven’t, I don’t think I’ve had like one one day and one the next.

Peter: So I’m having a hard time really distinguishing between the two.

Peter: But it is a very smooth, pleasant black tea.

Peter: I have noticed recently, I mean, I’ve been aware of this for some time, but recently I’m taking more active stance to avoid this problem.

Peter: If I drink black tea on an empty stomach, I get nauseous.

Peter: So I made sure that I ate first today before drinking this cup of black tea so as to not ruin the experience.

Peter: It’s very smooth.

Peter: It’s very strong.

Peter: Like I like my black tea, not bitter, unlike my coffee, which I like better.

Peter: This is not better.

Peter: I don’t like bitter tea.

Scott: Peter, are you sure that…

Peter: And I did add a teaspoon of lemon to this one as well.

Scott: Are you sure the problem is not that you’re…

Scott: whenever you’re drinking black tea on an empty stomach, you’re also riding a roller coaster at the time?

Peter: Really sure.

Scott: Okay.

Peter: Don’t have…

Peter: I’m coming to you live from Vermont this morning, and we don’t have a lot of roller coasters here in Bethel.

Scott: Yeah, but you haven’t gotten nauseous yet, so you haven’t proven the theory.

Peter: Oh, I had a cup of this about an hour ago.

Scott: And then you got nauseous?

Peter: No.

Peter: So this is my second cup today.

Scott: Right, because you weren’t on an empty stomach, but I’m just saying, I think it’s actually the roller coaster.

Scott: It’s not the empty stomach.

Peter: Very good.

Peter: Well, anyway, this one I also give a thumbs up to.

Peter: It’s a repeat.

Peter: I’ve been drinking it plenty, and I enjoy it a lot.

Peter: I am also drinking this one like a proper Englishman would with a tablespoon of lemon juice, because that’s the way tea was meant to be.

Peter: I’m trying to find the description on the website to see how this one is distinguished from their regular one.

Peter: Blah, blah, blah, who we are, yada, yada.

Peter: Product description.

Peter: At Yorkshire Tea, we know that the best tea is about the best blend of leaves, and the finest blend we make is Yorkshire Gold.

Peter: We choose teas from our three favorite origins, Assam for richness and body, Kenya for vibrancy, and Rwanda for its beautiful golden glow.

Peter: And we buy them from top tea gardens around the world.

Peter: So that’s my somewhat Patrick Stewart-ish inspired review of Taylor’s of Harrogate Yorkshire Gold Black Tea.

Peter: Yes, it’s a gold black tea.

Scott: I think you do a better John Syracusa than you do a Patrick Stewart.

Peter: Yeah, I mean, I could have talked about tea.

Peter: I mean, you want to drink tea.

Peter: I mean, sure, but that’s not tea.

Peter: That’s coffee when you got that.

Peter: Anyway, I don’t know.

Peter: I can’t do a Syracusa on demand today.

Peter: Wait, you put it on your carry phone?

Peter: You put the beta on your carry phone?

Peter: Don’t put it on your carry phone.

Peter: So anyway, yeah.

Peter: All right, what do we got for topics today?

Scott: I have no idea.

Scott: I don’t know.

Scott: I think tech…

Scott: Is it going to be technology related because my head’s going to explode?

Peter: I’ve got some tech relations that we can bring in here.

Peter: First off, going back to old things.

Scott: You should never have relations with…

Peter: I did not have relations with…

Peter: Are you kidding?

Peter: That’s a booming industry.

Peter: AI, robots, sex bots, that’s a thing.

Scott: I did not have relations with that technology.

Peter: With that AI, Ms.

Peter: GPT.

Peter: Looking at last week, did I not cover my Fermu glasses update?

Peter: I thought I already covered this one on a previous episode, but it’s still in our to-do list.

Peter: I’m going to tell you.

Peter: Well, anyway, Fermu, I like them.

Peter: I think they’re fine, but I’m wearing my Warby Parkers today.

Peter: So moving on.

Peter: Yeah.

Peter: So tech review.

Peter: I’ll tell you a little bit.

Peter: Yeah, we’ll cover the tech side here, and I’ll cover the fitness side on the next episode of Blurring the Lines Podcast, also being recorded today.

Peter: So I purchased and yesterday just received a Garmin Forerunner 955 Solar watch.

Peter: Yes.

Peter: Definitely off the bat, it feels like a downgrade when it comes to performance and utility and features, because the Apple Watch Ultra can do lots more things than this can do.

Peter: Plus, it does have a touch screen, but the interface is definitely more of what you would think of on a watch.

Peter: You know, the Apple Watch feels more like an iPhone really than this.

Peter: This watch feels more like a watch.

Peter: So I did, I received it, I charged it up last night.

Peter: It was mostly charged.

Peter: Was able to pair it with the Garmin Connect app pretty easily, and was able to connect that to Apple Health.

Peter: So when I record a run or a yoga workout or something on this, it goes to Garmin, which then feeds into Apple Health, which eventually, and I was troubleshooting this morning, shows up in the Workouts app as well.

Peter: So if, you know, just like if you record a workout in your Apple Watch using the built-in fitness app, it will show up there.

Peter: Or if you use Strava, if you have something else feeding into Apple Health, those workouts will often also show up in the Workouts app in your phone.

Peter: So what I did notice is it recorded my sleep last night, and I didn’t know what would happen if I slept with two watches on, so I didn’t for the first night anyway.

Peter: I just slept with the Garmin.

Peter: And it did record sleep.

Peter: I don’t know if it didn’t.

Peter: Like as soon as I got out of bed, the sleep data was not there, and I did manually tell my watch to sync with the phone, with the Connect app.

Peter: And then my sleep showed up, and immediately it was tracking my step count.

Peter: So I was like, okay, that’s cool.

Peter: I recorded a yoga workout this morning with both watches.

Peter: Both of them were like within two seconds of each other.

Peter: Both of them recorded the same average heart rate throughout the entire thing.

Peter: And both of them recorded wildly different calorie burns during this.

Scott: Yeah, this made me suspicious, because when you say they recorded the same average heart rate, it was identical.

Peter: Yeah, it’s the same.

Peter: Exactly the same.

Scott: Yeah, which doesn’t make sense.

Scott: Which I wouldn’t have expected to be identical.

Scott: I would expect at least a couple of beats per minute different.

Scott: Just because they’re different devices with totally different HRMs.

Scott: And one was, what, strapped to your neck, and the other one was on your wrist?

Peter: One on each wrist.

Peter: One on left, one on the right.

Peter: So, yeah, it’s a little weird that they would both say, hey, you burn, you know, your heart rate was 67 beats per minute, and one says you burn 19 calories, the other one says I burned 124.

Peter: That’s off by a factor of 10 plus.

Scott: Well, considering that you were doing yoga for 45 minutes, the only way you could have burned only 19 calories was to have been dead.

Peter: Yeah, well, active calories, right?

Peter: It would have been like in Shavasana the whole time.

Scott: So I think you still would have burned more than 19 calories, even in Shavasana.

Peter: Active calories, active calories, not resting calories.

Scott: But it still would have recorded some active calories, and it would have been higher than 19.

Scott: You can lay on the ground and record more than 19 active calories in 45 minutes.

Peter: Yeah, but if you’re just lying there or sleeping, then you’re not active.

Peter: Then you’re not active, though.

Peter: It doesn’t matter.

Peter: That’s wrong.

Peter: You’re not active.

Peter: There shouldn’t be an active.

Peter: If you’re asleep, there should be no active calories.

Peter: That’s just your total energy expenditure.

Scott: Actually, there’s probably more active calories when you’re asleep than there are when you’re in Shavasana, unless you literally sleep like the dead.

Peter: That is called corpse pose for a reason.

Scott: Anyway, yeah, like I said, I’m not an expert on yoga.

Scott: I’m not an expert on heart rates.

Scott: I’m not an expert on active calories.

Scott: But I do think that for 45 minutes of yoga, I’d go with the one, whatever, 147, 127.

Peter: So I’m a little concerned about that though, because the point is the reason I bought the Garmin 4Runner is, I mean, I’ve had people have said, oh yeah, you can do an ultra marathon using the Apple Watch Ultra.

Peter: I’m not convinced because in my long runs, this battery gets drained really fast, even if I, you know, but I have to like turn off all the features.

Peter: And even then, I’m skeptical that it’s going to work.

Peter: So that’s why I got the Garmin, because I got this one.

Peter: This is the 955 solar, as the name implies.

Peter: It has a solar panel charger in it, which I think is awesome.

Peter: I don’t know why Apple doesn’t do that, because solar power on the Apple Watch Ultra would be phenomenal.

Peter: That would be amazing.

Peter: That would get me to upgrade.

Peter: I would trade this thing in, in a heartbeat.

Scott: I think that your next experiment should be recording with just the Garmin and see if it makes a difference.

Scott: I’m very curious if there’s some kind of…

Scott: It shouldn’t happen, and I understand what I’m saying sounds crazy, but I am curious if there’s some kind of interference going on from the fact that it’s recording two devices and one of them happens to be made by Apple, and the other one doesn’t.

Scott: I’m curious what happens when you just record the Garmin.

Peter: I mean, I could try it, but I’m not sold on that, because the Garmin, it works in its own ecosystem.

Peter: Like, the Garmin device connects via the Garmin cloud, and then it feeds that into Apple Health.

Scott: But is there a Garmin app that you can check?

Scott: And if so, does it also say 19 calories?

Peter: Yes.

Peter: Yes and yes.

Scott: And they have the same concept of active versus total calories?

Peter: Apparently not.

Scott: No, no, I’m saying when you look at their app, do they have active calories separated from total calories, et cetera, et cetera, the same way?

Scott: Because if not, then that is still a difference.

Scott: That is still a thing where it could be-

Peter: It seems to me like the term active calories should be a standard, that you shouldn’t have to, you know.

Peter: So it says 79 calories total.

Scott: Which is still wildly different.

Peter: Right.

Peter: 79 versus it was like a 100 and 100 and something.

Scott: 20, 140 something.

Peter: Well, 124 was active in Apple.

Peter: So Apple said, Apple said 195 calories total, 124 active.

Peter: Garmin only reports total 79 total, which is half of the total.

Scott: That means either the health app can’t understand what Garmin is telling it.

Scott: Although 79 is a low total, which actually could result in only 19 active calories.

Peter: But this was the maiden voyage of this watch.

Peter: I’m not impressed just yet, but I will try it for a run tomorrow.

Scott: I understand what you’re saying, but it still means that the health app is getting two incoming streams of data at the same time.

Peter: Yes.

Scott: Right?

Peter: Yes.

Peter: It is definitely getting two incoming streams.

Peter: I don’t know that it happened at the same time though, because the Apple Watch…

Scott: Or does Garmin capture the whole workout and then upload it after it’s done?

Peter: Garmin captures it all, and then I had to…

Peter: I think I had to sync it, because the Apple Watch workout was present long before, because I was troubleshooting, looking, I was like, do I have Garmin Connect connected to Apple Health, right?

Peter: Do I have the permissions, right?

Scott: Okay.

Peter: Yes, I do, yada, yada, and it was like several minutes later, all of a sudden, it showed up.

Peter: Now, it showed up in Apple Health, and then later it showed up in workouts, right?

Peter: So it went into Apple Health, and then eventually the workouts app said, oh, hey, there’s a workout here too.

Scott: Okay.

Scott: So maybe Garmin is not live streaming data into health.

Peter: I don’t think it is.

Scott: Maybe it’s just waiting until it’s done and then going, here, here’s what I did.

Peter: Yeah, because I’m fairly certain it’s not even live streaming off the watch.

Peter: I don’t think it does that.

Scott: To the Garmin Cloud, okay.

Peter: Yeah, I think it’s an on-demand or a periodic thing.

Peter: Because again, the Garmin watch is designed to be standalone.

Peter: It’s not paired to the phone like an Apple watch is.

Peter: They’ve got this weird symbiotic relationship.

Scott: Yeah, I understand.

Peter: The Garmin doesn’t do that.

Scott: But if it found that its own cloud was accessible, it could still try to upload data live.

Peter: It could.

Peter: It’s possible that it was doing that, but I don’t think that was the case, because I had to look later.

Peter: So anyway, we’ll see what’s going on.

Peter: But again, the whole reason I got this was, like I said, is I’m just skeptical.

Peter: You know, I’m getting ready for my first 50-mile race.

Peter: I have not really seen evidence that this Apple watch will last that, you know.

Scott: I think it depends wildly on all kinds of conditions.

Scott: And like you said, you would have to turn everything off.

Peter: Turn everything off.

Scott: Yeah.

Scott: Yeah, I don’t know.

Scott: Based on recent battery life that I’ve been getting on my Ultra, I’d say there’s no way I would attempt it.

Peter: Yeah.

Peter: I mean, I definitely noticed a difference when I turn off cell.

Peter: Well, I turned off cellular.

Peter: I deactivated my cellular plan the other day.

Peter: But, you know, I can turn off Wi-Fi, set on low power mode.

Peter: And I think that’s pretty much it, right?

Peter: I mean, I guess I could.

Peter: Well, disabling GPS would kind of defeat the whole purpose, right?

Peter: And I use a Bluetooth external heart rate monitor.

Peter: Yeah.

Peter: Now, I think that’s that’s probably where the big differentiator is going to happen, though, too, is because I want to use the heart rate monitor, which with whichever device is going to be more accurate.

Peter: I would think that would be the Garmin or, well, whichever device is going to last for the entire race, I should say.

Scott: Oh, that’s actually an interesting point.

Scott: Was the heart rate monitor also being used by the Garmin at the same time, or was it using its own internal heart rate?

Peter: They were both using the internal.

Peter: I did not turn on the heart rate monitor.

Peter: So they were both wrist based.

Peter: So for tomorrow, I don’t know.

Peter: I do happen to have two external heart rate monitors.

Peter: So in theory, I could pair one to one and one to the other and try it.

Peter: This morning, I watched a YouTube video on a guy who did like a review of both the Garmin and the Apple for a year.

Peter: Sorry, for a year.

Peter: A year, I think you said he had both for a year.

Peter: And this guy, he now, because he was in a half marathon once, and he got in like six miles and realized that he had accidentally stopped his watch because he didn’t have the water lock on and it got sweaty and it paused the workout.

Peter: And so now he always runs with two watches, but then he has an external heart rate monitor, an external step counter, I think, and an external temperature monitor.

Peter: So this guy’s wearing five different devices every time he goes out running.

Peter: I was like, dude, really?

Scott: Not only that, Peter, I have done workouts where I have sweated a lot.

Scott: I don’t put on the water thing.

Peter: Apparently, this guy sweats a lot because he talked about how he’s just sitting here in this room sweating.

Peter: So maybe he’s just a heavy sweater.

Scott: Did he look fit?

Peter: He looked decent.

Peter: He didn’t have like he wasn’t like ripped or or thin like you’d expect a runner to be.

Peter: He seemed to have like a, you know, a sensible store of body fat also.

Peter: But, you know, he’s running marathons and stuff.

Peter: He’s fit enough to do that under like, I think he said sub three hours.

Peter: So it’s got to be pretty fun.

Scott: Yeah.

Scott: Okay.

Peter: Hmm.

Scott: So yeah, he creates his own shower everywhere he goes.

Peter: Gross.

Peter: Anyway, so my first experience with the with the Garmin kind of mixed.

Peter: We’ll see how that goes.

Peter: But I’ll see.

Peter: I just need I need another strap for my second HRM.

Peter: And we’ll see how that goes.

Peter: So I’m going to run tomorrow.

Peter: So yeah, we’ll see what happens.

Peter: But you know, I bought it at Best Buy, 30 day returns if I don’t like it.

Peter: So I’ll kick around.

Peter: And the other big reason I got it too, was because the new running plan that I’m on, you can download workouts off their website and they’ll go straight to Garmin.

Peter: There’s no way to do that for Apple.

Peter: Unless you use, there’s a third party app that lets you download Garmin or Fitbit file format and convert it.

Peter: But apparently, it’s kind of buggy.

Peter: So I’ve been making the workouts manually on here, like setting custom run, setting the target pace, the target heart rate or whatever, and the target time.

Peter: And it’s not that bad, but it’s a hassle.

Peter: So if I could just say, download to watch go, that’d be nice.

Scott: Peter, this is your chance to break out Warp Terminal and break out the Warp Agent and have it by code you an app.

Scott: Yes.

Peter: Perfect.

Peter: An iOS app.

Peter: Watch OS app, even better.

Scott: Watch OS or Mac OS or wherever you want to load the data from.

Peter: Well, it’s got to get to the watch somehow.

Scott: Wait, it doesn’t have to get to the watch.

Peter: Well, yeah, it does because you’re running a workout on the watch.

Scott: Right, but the raw data is going somewhere else.

Peter: The workout, the format of the workout, saying run at this pace for this duration, now slow down, now run faster, that has to be on the watch.

Scott: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Peter: That’s what I’m talking about.

Scott: Yeah.

Scott: So an iOS app with a watch app, yeah.

Scott: Yeah.

Peter: So anyway, what else?

Peter: What else do you got?

Peter: So that’s my Garmin 4Runner preview, I’d say.

Scott: Revue.

Peter: Yeah.

Peter: What about you?

Peter: What you got?

Scott: Oh, well, as you know, I talked a little bit last time about replacing Raycast with Tahoe’s Spotlight.

Peter: Yes.

Scott: The other thing that I have done is because shortcuts on the Mac, starting with Tahoe now has automations, I have stopped using Hazel to handle file automations.

Scott: Like when I download specific files, I have them routed and they hit my downloads folder, they get routed to different places depending on what the file is for certain types of files.

Scott: Like there’s some log files I’ll download that I have routed somewhere.

Scott: There’s a time sheet I have downloaded that will get routed somewhere.

Scott: All these things get routed somewhere automatically based on file type and name.

Scott: And I was using Hazel to do that, and it was great.

Scott: But I thought I want to try it with shortcuts now.

Scott: Why not?

Scott: Because I really wasn’t using Hazel for a whole lot, and why have Hazel loaded if I’m just barely using its power and shortcuts to do the same thing?

Scott: So now I have shortcut automations that whenever something hits the downloads folder, it looks to see if it’s any of those specific files and it routes them appropriately and it works great.

Scott: So it is a pain to set the logic up in shortcuts, especially compared to Hazel, for sure.

Scott: Not a doubt about that.

Scott: Part of that is the janky if statement in shortcuts, which does not have an if else.

Scott: You have to nest if statements 20 feet deep.

Scott: If otherwise.

Scott: And then you have to put your next if statement inside the otherwise.

Scott: That, oh, and the other thing too is you have to be very careful with magic variables because this shortcut uses a with next or with all.

Scott: Anyway, it loops on all incoming items.

Scott: So for anything that’s new, it loops on them.

Scott: Now, usually it’s just one file at a time, so it’s not a big deal.

Scott: But anyway, you have to be careful even referencing repeat item, which is a magic variable, and it should always reference the top level repeat item because there’s only one repeat loop in the whole shortcut.

Scott: Even so, I had to clear that variable and not use the magic variable, but manually select that variable and go up and select repeat item in order to get one of the if statements to work, which is bizarre.

Scott: But there’s a lot of banging around or troubleshooting with shortcuts, which hasn’t changed.

Scott: That’s always been that way.

Scott: It’s gotten slightly worse over the years.

Scott: But anyway, that aside, that’s the normal shortcuts pain.

Scott: But that aside, the actual automation part of it works great.

Scott: And I like the way they do the automations in Mac OS.

Scott: So basically, what they do is you go into automations, you start setting up an automation, and then it says, based on this condition, what is the condition?

Scott: Like the condition for me is whenever something hits the downloads folder, in this case.

Scott: Then it says, run this shortcut.

Scott: So basically, what you do is create a separate shortcut that it runs.

Scott: It’s not that all the logic is stuffed in automation.

Scott: The automation is just when this thing happens, run the shortcut.

Scott: And then your shortcut is a separate shortcut that you can look at in Shortcuts app that has the logic.

Scott: And I like that separation because it means that I can swap those shortcuts around, I can change things easily, I can easily swap in another shortcut with different logic for it.

Scott: If I want to, that kind of thing.

Scott: And I like that.

Scott: I like the way they did that.

Scott: They did a good job on that.

Scott: So shortcuts again, mixed reviews overall, but the automation feature is very nice.

Peter: So I’ve been playing, I played a little more with shortcuts recently.

Peter: You may, how did you, do you use the food noms shortcuts?

Scott: I do use them to, because I have a shortcut that calculates how many calories I have left for the day.

Peter: Right.

Peter: Yep.

Scott: And the reason I do that, instead of just letting food nom grab my activity and then looking at it that way, is because I only want to subtract workout calories, not just general activity calories.

Peter: Right.

Scott: And so I have a shortcut that grabs my food nom totals and uses that to subtract from my target.

Peter: It’s food nom.

Peter: There’s an S in there.

Scott: Whatever.

Scott: Food nom, food nom.

Peter: Nom nom.

Scott: So anyway, yes, I do.

Peter: Okay.

Peter: So the reason I ask is, they with a recent update, relatively recent, they deprecated a bunch of old shortcut actions.

Peter: And that broke the shortcuts I had.

Peter: Because I was, I started going into health, trying to find like, okay, how many calories have I burned?

Peter: How much protein have I eaten?

Peter: How much this, that?

Peter: And they had like, get your goal, get your protein goal right there.

Peter: Boom, done.

Peter: Get your carbohydrate goal.

Peter: I was like, oh, so I don’t need to do all this fanciness.

Peter: And then all those calls died.

Peter: They got deprecated.

Peter: So I had to retool those and figure out how to retrieve the data and refer to it properly, so that I was just getting like, what’s my calorie total for today, for example?

Peter: And I did that.

Peter: Some of the stuff I pull from food noms, some of it I go into Apple Health to extract it there.

Peter: But right now, the biggest thing I have is just like a nutrition report for the day.

Peter: It tells me how much water I’ve drunk, and if I need to drink more, it gives me a thumbs up when I give a thumbs up.

Peter: I basically have it report on protein, carbs, calories, and water.

Scott: Current blood alcohol level.

Peter: I haven’t gotten that far.

Peter: So I was recreating those, but I also have shortcuts.

Peter: The ones I use like every day are that.

Peter: I have ones that scans what I’ve eaten to see if I’ve logged creatine or if I’ve logged green tea.

Peter: And if I haven’t, it tells me, you know, you need to drink a cup of green tea.

Peter: You need to take your creatine.

Peter: So that’s kind of helpful, along with like a reminder to meditate daily.

Peter: Like if by nine o’clock happens and I haven’t meditated, it will add meditate to my reminders list.

Peter: But if I have meditated, it won’t add it.

Peter: And if later in the day I’ve meditated, it will check it off and remove it from my reminders list.

Peter: So I have those things running daily.

Peter: I still haven’t found why something around between the hours of five and six p.m.

Peter: every day sets do not disturb mode.

Peter: Don’t know how that’s happening.

Peter: Don’t know why.

Scott: So iOS has options to enable…

Scott: Yeah, are you sure at some point a question didn’t pop up asking you and you accidentally said yes?

Peter: No, I’m not sure.

Peter: It’s quite possible.

Scott: But the problem is I always say no.

Scott: So if you did say yes, I have no idea where to disable that or change it.

Scott: I guess it would be under that do not disturb mode.

Peter: And so I have settings to set the focus automatically to like personal during, you know, after hours and work doing work hours.

Peter: The only time I ever recall automatically setting, personal setting, do not disturb is either for when I launch an app, like when I launch meditation app, I tell it set to do not disturb on.

Peter: And when I arrive at the yoga studio or the gym or the or I should say the yoga studio or the massage studio, which happens to be right next to the gym.

Peter: So also the gym.

Peter: So when I go to get a massage or I’m teaching a yoga class, it’s like do not disturb.

Peter: I don’t want to see anything, turn it off.

Peter: But I don’t recall ever setting a time based do not disturb mode on focus.

Peter: So I’m not sure where it’s coming from.

Scott: You may just have to go into the focus mode and check and see if it somehow one got set for do not disturb.

Scott: There’s a schedule in there.

Peter: It wouldn’t surprise me.

Peter: Other weird stuff that I haven’t done seems to be showing up for time to time.

Peter: So.

Peter: So what else we got?

Scott: I don’t know, but you know that you’re you’re you could create your own 6 p.m.

Scott: to 9 p.m.

Scott: every day.

Peter: Do not do it.

Scott: Yeah, get rid of that.

Peter: I never did that.

Peter: I’ve never, never, ever, I never fucking did that.

Scott: No, I guarantee Peter, it popped up a thing once saying, hey, by the way, during this circumstance, would you and you probably were just like inundated with notifications and you were just like, get away.

Peter: And it also made a 9 to 5 set, do not disturb off.

Peter: So you can disturb me from 9 to 5, but like, so yeah.

Scott: It’s doing this based on some work schedule it thinks you have.

Peter: Yeah, right.

Peter: And completely ignoring the actual work schedule that I have, right?

Scott: Yeah, by the way, all employers out there, Peter doesn’t actually have that work schedule.

Scott: He’ll be running.

Scott: He’ll be practicing for his long marathon during those hours.

Peter: Absolutely.

Peter: It’s a different kind of work.

Scott: It is a different kind of work.

Scott: It is work.

Scott: There is absolutely.

Peter: Just ask Mike.

Peter: Yeah, it’s a different kind of work.

Peter: Just like there’s a kind of work from my Apple Watch and a kind of work from my Garmin.

Peter: They’re different types of work.

Scott: They are very different.

Scott: One is 19 calories worth of work.

Peter: Oh my God.

Scott: The other one is more.

Peter: I should just set driving as my, you know, do not disturb mode.

Peter: Yeah, just set driving every day at such and such a time, you know.

Scott: That’s brilliant.

Scott: That way even you can’t use your own phone.

Scott: You have to constantly tell it, no, I’m not driving.

Peter: I’m not driving.

Scott: It’s not just so that people can’t bother you.

Scott: So you can’t bother yourself.

Peter: Right.

Peter: Don’t bother me.

Peter: I’m driving.

Peter: Don’t bother you.

Peter: You’re driving.

Peter: So it’s brilliant.

Peter: Oh, yeah.

Peter: That’s awesome.

Scott: We solved all your problems.

Scott: All your problems, Peter, not just your tech related problems.

Peter: Problems have been solved.

Scott: Although, let’s be honest, aren’t most of our problems tech related?

Scott: I mean, there are a few non-tech related problems I can think of that spring to mind.

Peter: Thought you were going to say, aren’t most of our problems self-inflicted?

Scott: Well, we are choosing to use technology, so that falls under self-infliction.

Peter: There you go.

Peter: So, let’s see.

Peter: What else did we have that we wanted to cover?

Peter: Who’s the newest subscriber to the Midas Touch Network?

Scott: Oh God, I subscribed to Mockler and somehow I wound up getting emails from the Midas Plus or whatever it’s called.

Peter: The Midas Touch Network.

Scott: Yeah, the joys of Midas Plus.

Peter: Yeah, well, the plus, that’s the newsletter, I guess.

Scott: Oh, okay.

Scott: Anyway, it’s not that, so here’s the thing.

Scott: You and I had a little conversation about this.

Scott: For people who don’t know, I’ll try to remember to put a link to Mockler and I’ll try to remember to put it in Midas Touch.

Scott: So basically these are people that, you know, Adam Mockler, isn’t that his name, Adam?

Scott: Adam Mockler does a good job of making videos, explaining what’s going on with, you know, Trump and Epstein and all that.

Scott: I mean, he talks about all kinds of stuff, but basically what he’s doing is, he’s trying to analyze stuff and break stuff down, which is great.

Scott: On the other hand, it’s a little bit of preaching to the choir.

Peter: Yes, and he does get people on the right in MAGA also.

Scott: Yeah, right.

Scott: So it’s fine.

Scott: And I agree that if you’re doing it factually based and you’re not trying to be outrageous, even though he himself has admitted he doesn’t like YouTube titles, but that’s YouTube, I, you know.

Scott: Yep.

Scott: I agree that there is a place for that.

Scott: Here’s the thing, though.

Scott: What I absolutely want to not see happen, and I don’t think he does this, but the Midas Touch guys seem a little bit more amped up.

Scott: And what I don’t think is helpful.

Peter: And sensational, you mean?

Scott: Right.

Scott: And what I don’t think is helpful is, I don’t like sensationalism from either side.

Scott: CNN does it, they all do it.

Scott: And I really don’t like it because that sensationalism, that constant fomenting of anger about, can you believe?

Scott: That’s how we got in this place to begin with.

Scott: That is why the Republican Party became so angry all the times, because they had the Rush Limbaugh’s of the world doing that from way back in the day, and that’s how we got here.

Scott: And so I do agree with you that the Democrats need to get their message out there.

Scott: What I don’t want to see is more anger from either side, because this will never fix the problem.

Scott: Being angry at the other side is never…

Scott: It’s impossible not to be angry at the other side a lot of times, but the thing is, is that just generating more outrage and anger doesn’t solve anything.

Peter: Yeah, I mean, I don’t think they…

Peter: I mean, these guys, they definitely are expressing frustration and disbelief, but I don’t…

Peter: They’re not like Bernie Sanders’ level of outrage, right?

Peter: I mean, well, nobody is.

Peter: Well, I was just going to say, Bernie Sanders…

Peter: Just take that back.

Peter: Every MAGA is Bernie Sanders’ level of outrage.

Peter: They’re just going the opposite direction.

Scott: Sanders popped out of his mom and he was angry.

Scott: I mean, he just has been angry from day one.

Peter: Yes, pretty much.

Peter: So, they’re not like that.

Peter: But I just think it’s like every little tiny slip that Trump does, they’re just all over it, just like Fox News was all over Biden for every tiny little de minimis thing, which I’m like, all right.

Peter: I mean, no, when you say, when you say, look at Trump, he can’t even walk straight, look at him almost falling down the steps on Air Force One.

Peter: I want to see Trump almost falling down the steps, not just a tiny little slip, right?

Peter: You know, and I was like, really?

Peter: That’s what you’re, come on, guys.

Peter: So, I don’t like that as much.

Scott: Not only that, it doesn’t help to point out all these tiny problems or even the gigantic big ones and go, aha, got you now, because they never got you.

Scott: No one cares.

Scott: That’s the thing is like, I, yes, document the evil things that he’s doing and the corrupt things that he’s doing.

Scott: There is corruption like none other in this administration.

Scott: And I did enjoy the Mockler video of him pointing out the hypocrisy where they were complaining about Nancy Pelosi.

Scott: Meanwhile, Trump is a total grifter.

Peter: So a friend of mine who is, sorry, go ahead.

Scott: All I was going to say was, but it doesn’t do any good to point out any of these things when nothing ever happens about him.

Scott: So point him out rationally.

Scott: Don’t get mad and say, aha, we got you now.

Scott: You know, don’t be like, ah, and got you now.

Scott: Don’t do that because it doesn’t do anything.

Scott: Nothing has ever happened to Trump because of all the bad things he’s doing.

Scott: So document him, but just do it in a rational way.

Scott: And I’m not saying they’re not, but I’m just saying, in general, so much of Democrats and liberals’ approach nowadays is jumping up and down going, aha, look at this evil thing.

Scott: Now this will, you know, and it never does.

Scott: And I’m tired of it.

Scott: I’m very tired of that.

Peter: I am also very tired of it.

Peter: So I have a friend who is, I don’t know, he’s been quieter lately about it, but he was definitely, you know, well, he claimed it was anybody but Hillary, but it’s really, you know, he’s MAGA.

Scott: Yeah.

Peter: And, you know, his big thing like was like, Oh, can you believe it?

Peter: Fauci profited from vaccines.

Peter: And like, I got to, you know, I’m like, OK, so how much did he make?

Peter: And how much is Trump making now on all this other stuff?

Peter: Are you still focusing on that?

Peter: Right.

Peter: But it’s it’s but it’s OK for Trump to make hundreds of millions, to take a jet for $400 million and then have America spend $900 million cleaning it up to make sure it’s safe and not bugged.

Peter: So effectively, $1.3 billion for just a jet.

Peter: That’s cool.

Peter: But Fauci made, what, $10 million or something on vaccines?

Peter: You know, I was like, but it’s OK when he does it, you know?

Peter: So it’s like, and yeah, I mean, that’s the thing is, you know, a lot of MAGA folks and sympathizers and moderates will say, well, I see both sides.

Peter: I’m like, OK, then you should also see that they are grossly, exponentially imbalanced, you know?

Scott: Yeah, you can, yes, people, and I hear that a lot, oh, there’s always been corruption in politics.

Scott: Yeah, but the level that it’s at now is just insane.

Scott: Like everyone has quit pretending.

Scott: This is this is the thing.

Scott: I have a friend who does that.

Scott: He what abouts, he’s a what about-ism guy, or both sides are a guy.

Scott: Well, politicians, blah, blah.

Scott: I’m like, I don’t care about all politicians.

Scott: Right now, I’m focused on, you know, you can never focus on one issue and deal with specific problems, if that’s your mindset.

Peter: Yep.

Scott: Because you’re always like, well, they’re all bad.

Scott: Yeah, all politicians are probably bad, but look at what is happening right here.

Peter: Everybody is bad to an extent, but that doesn’t excuse, you know, this particular terrible thing.

Peter: There are levels, you know, it’s like saying, oh, you know, like, I say, well, you should cut back on your alcohol.

Peter: Well, you know, everything I eat is bad for you.

Peter: Like, okay.

Scott: Right.

Scott: So never try.

Peter: No, but that doesn’t mean that you know, that it’s okay to just go out on a bender every night of the week.

Peter: Right.

Scott: That’s what I mean.

Scott: Everything is bad for me.

Scott: So I’ll never try.

Scott: I’ll never try to improve.

Scott: I’ll never try to do better.

Scott: I’ll never, you know, I’ll just eat whatever horrible thing I can see.

Peter: But not just whatever horrible I like.

Peter: I will deliberately go and eat every horrible thing I can.

Peter: That’s the thing.

Peter: Mockler made the analogy.

Peter: It’s like, you know, like Pelosi cut off a finger, but Trump is taking off the entire limb.

Peter: I’m like, no, I think it’s more like she clipped your nail a little too close to the cuticle.

Peter: And, you know, like, and you bled a little.

Scott: But anyway, I do agree we need to solve the problem of politicians benefiting from things in a way that changes their values.

Scott: 100%.

Scott: Tough problem solved, it’s always been that way.

Scott: But in the case of Trump, he is just openly, openly, openly, openly corrupt and he’s just benefiting financially from whatever he can in every arena.

Scott: And there is a difference, is all I’m saying.

Peter: And I just thought it was fascinating, you know, watching Rand Paul, you know, saying like, well, wait a minute, you know, we, we can’t, if we’re, if we’re blocking, you know, people from profiting, you know, from it, they’re, they’re not going to run for office.

Peter: And that’s going to make some, you know, some good friends of mine not want to run for office.

Peter: I was just like, good.

Peter: Yeah, it’s not the point.

Peter: You weren’t supposed to run for Congress to make yourself or political office to make yourself rich.

Peter: That’s not the point.

Scott: They’re not professional athletes.

Scott: They’re not there to also sign up a bunch of sponsorship deals.

Peter: But apparently they are.

Peter: Right.

Scott: They are.

Scott: That’s the thing is they are.

Peter: That wasn’t the point.

Peter: But they are.

Peter: So yeah.

Scott: So yeah, it’s, it’s interesting.

Peter: Oh, brother.

Peter: That was so much fun.

Scott: Anyway.

Peter: Yay.

Scott: But yeah, I, I do, I, I do think that anyway, just going back to the topic, I do think that I’m not saying, I’m not accusing these guys of it, but I am saying that what I, what I don’t want to focus my time on is just more information.

Scott: This is, yeah, look how terrible this is.

Scott: And I do want to know specific things that are happening that are important, but I don’t want to hear just a load of things coming in as outrage at everything, because that doesn’t do any good.

Scott: Me hearing it and getting mad about it changes nothing in the world.

Scott: All it does is make me a worse person.

Peter: And again, I find Mockler’s approach, I prefer his approach to the others who are on the Midas Touch Network.

Peter: I still watch, I haven’t subscribed to any of the others, but YouTube suggests them a lot.

Peter: And every now and then I’ll watch it.

Peter: And sometimes Mockler is even reacting to what like Mesilis, whatever, Ben, the other, the lead giant Midas, what he has said.

Peter: I prefer like hearing Mockler’s take on it instead, so.

Scott: Now Mockler still does, to me, he still does excess coverage.

Scott: Like some of the stuff that he’s pointing out with like the Epstein thing, he could do in fewer videos.

Scott: And I think it would be more, I think it would actually come across more, as more important, because when you flood the zone with information or outrage about something, it’s less useful than if you just make a few good salient points.

Scott: And I understand why he does it.

Scott: Yep.

Scott: He has to.

Scott: Or he gets no traffic and he loses his audience.

Scott: I understand that.

Peter: But also keep in mind, too, and this is something, this is marketing 101 and it’s the same thing.

Peter: You know, I had this problem, like when Adam and I were going through the same marketing development course.

Peter: You know, you’re told you got to send it out, repeat the message, keep spamming people, hit them, hit them, hit them.

Peter: You and I, I believe, are part of the minority who we’re seeing all these episodes, right?

Peter: I think most, correct me if I’m wrong, but most podcasts you subscribe to, do you listen to most, if not all episodes of most of the things you subscribe to?

Scott: Not anymore, but I mean, I’m the same way.

Peter: Recently, mostly because of the way Overcast works now, it used to get old episodes and keep them longer.

Peter: And if I missed one, it would go back and download the most recent previous episode.

Peter: It doesn’t do that anymore.

Peter: So since then, I’m falling behind and I’m not missing stuff.

Peter: But before that, I was an episode completionist, and I would try to watch every episode or listen to every episode I could.

Peter: I am pretty convinced that most people don’t operate like that.

Peter: They’ll take a little snippet here and a little snippet there.

Peter: So while you and I may see him cover Epstein three times in one day, I think most people probably only see it once, if that.

Peter: Yeah, so I think that’s what’s going on.

Peter: And, you know, and you got to keep in mind, though, at the same time, Fox News is going on three times the same day, 100 percent, you know, three times an hour doing the same stuff.

Scott: Three times a minute.

Scott: And I know people that are just sitting there watching that all day long.

Peter: Yep.

Peter: But again, I was happy, though, to see that collectively the Midas Touch Network on YouTube for the last month got more views than Joe Rogan did on YouTube.

Scott: Yeah.

Peter: I was like, I take that as a sign of hope.

Peter: Because, you know, and the other thing too is, I think Mockler makes a lot of good points that I can try to keep in mind.

Peter: And like listening to him talk, it’s like debate practice.

Scott: Yeah.

Peter: Because I have been in situations where MAGA far-right people said things, which I either didn’t catch immediately or I didn’t have a good comeback for.

Peter: And listening to him is like, it’s like debate prep.

Peter: So, for example, last year I was in Germany and there’s a guy who’s part of the AFD, right?

Peter: Alternative für Deutschland, neo-Nazis.

Peter: And he was saying how he was shocked that I would support Kamala because Trump is so much better for peace for the global scene.

Peter: And I was just like, I was staggering.

Peter: He was like, there were no wars while, you know, it’s like, how many wars were there, you know, while Trump was in office?

Peter: And I was like, I don’t know how many.

Peter: And I realized later, he was looking at his phone.

Peter: He was, I’m fairly certain, looking up talking points.

Peter: Like this is what you’re supposed to say, right?

Scott: A hundred percent.

Peter: He said, the United States didn’t, you know, invade anywhere under, you know, and I was like, okay, well, let’s later on, like later that night, after we had gone our separate ways, I was like, okay, number one, although he effed it up, Biden is the one who withdrew from Afghanistan.

Peter: Trump had four years to do it.

Peter: He never withdrew from Afghanistan.

Peter: Number two, Trump launched freaking cruise missiles at Syria.

Peter: So, you know, like, boom, right there, two points, right?

Peter: You’re saying Trump’s gonna withdraw and get out of others’ ways.

Peter: He had a chance he didn’t.

Peter: And he’s, oh, he never attacked.

Peter: No, he freaking launched cruise missiles at a country.

Peter: That counts as an invasion or an attack, right?

Peter: So, you know, things like that.

Peter: And then a couple of weeks ago, I was talking with someone who was saying, well, you know, I’m just I’m just having the conversation.

Peter: I mean, I’m just listening there.

Peter: The people are talking.

Peter: They were getting all upset about the Washington Redskins, the commanders, the name, the rename of the name.

Peter: Right.

Peter: So he wanted to, you know, he was like he wanted to talk about that and about how people are getting all bent out of shape about that and stuff.

Peter: And I don’t remember.

Peter: I kind of took the bait and said something about, you know, yeah, well, there are more important things like, you know, he said, well, you know, I try not to get involved in that.

Peter: And I was like, yeah, but we’re at a point where we’re past where you can just stand idly by and not have a stance.

Peter: Well, I don’t, you know, I said, I said, look, and he mentioned something about immigration and I said, well, look, you know, look what they said they were going to do and look what they’re doing and look how deporting everybody is going right now.

Peter: And, you know, he said, like, they’re something about I think I forget I said something either about, like, the number of people being taken away with or the number of criminals that are actually being taken.

Peter: He’s like, well, we have no way of knowing that.

Peter: And I was like, I didn’t catch it at the time, but like, no, there are facts and there are figures and there are numbers, and we should have a way of knowing that.

Scott: Exactly.

Scott: Even if we don’t know that, that is a huge problem.

Peter: Bingo.

Peter: Right.

Peter: So that’s the kind of stuff where, you know, they’re talking about.

Peter: It’s those little bits during their, you know, their arguments that I think that I’m hopefully getting a little bit savvier, you know, when it comes to watching and prepping.

Scott: And I do like Mockler for the fact that he does.

Scott: He is intelligent.

Scott: He does frame it as a debate.

Scott: He’s not just ranting and raving and getting angry.

Scott: He’s framing it as a logical exercise.

Scott: But that talking point that the AFD guy said, that is exactly what my whataboutism friend was.

Scott: He was like, oh, but Trump is going to be good for world peace.

Scott: And if the Democrats are in, we’ll have World War III and all this other stuff.

Scott: He was talking to one of my other friends, and he was genuinely panicking that if Trump lost, we were headed straight for World War III.

Scott: He truly believed it.

Peter: Yeah.

Scott: That was an actual, those words exactly that you said to me, those were almost verbatim the words that he said.

Scott: That talking point had to come through Fox News to him, and who knows where it actually came from for the other guy.

Peter: But again, Mockler had talked about how, Andrew Tate is telling people vote for Trump, right?

Peter: And this is something that my ex-girlfriend pointed out to me a while ago too.

Peter: I remember she was really keyed into politics and stuff.

Peter: How the Republicans are playing a long game, just like the Russians are, we know the propaganda machine.

Peter: And they’ve got these folks, and he’s like, you know, so like you look, who are they targeting?

Peter: Disaffected young men, you know, the incels.

Peter: Like sooner or later, they’re going to be looking for dating advice.

Peter: They’re going to be looking maybe to get into better shape, right?

Peter: So you start planting the seeds with guys who appear to be successful with women, or guys who are fitness influencers and stuff.

Peter: And you go, you meet your market where they are.

Scott: Yeah.

Peter: And that’s the kind of thing where as much as I hate it, if that means that Mockler needs to put a sensational headline up.

Scott: Yeah.

Peter: So anyway.

Scott: It’s weird.

Scott: People are weird.

Peter: I think we’ve gone off on a couple of tangents, but we’re just about at the one-hour mark.

Peter: So I think it’s a good time to wrap this up.

Scott: Peter, in the voice of John Siracusa, can you please tell us how people found us and why they came to us?

Peter: I don’t have to tell you how to find us.

Peter: You already found us.

Peter: You know how to find us.

Peter: If you want to find us, you’re listening to this podcast, you’ve already heard of us.

Peter: You’ve found us.

Peter: Anyway, when I try to do it on demand, it’s not as good as when I do it on my own.

Peter: So anyway, you can find us at friendswithbrews.com.

Peter: You can find us at friendswithbrews.com and you can find Scott online.

Peter: I’m not as social, even my Blue Sky and my Mastodon stuff now, cut way down.

Scott: I cut way back on Blue Sky and I look at Mastodon a little bit, but I’ve never been a social media completionist, but now I’m way even less so.

Peter: Oh, totally not.

Peter: I definitely was in the early Twitter days.

Peter: I was like, oh my God, I got to scroll back and see what I missed.

Peter: I’m not even there that much these days.

Peter: But yeah, you can find us both at friendswithbrews.com.

Peter: There are links to find us at other locations there if you are so inclined.

Peter: If you are interested, dear listener, in the Adam Mockler channel, M-O-C-K-L-E-R, definitely recommend him on YouTube.

Peter: If you are interested in a free month of his insider subscription, I have five of those to give away.

Peter: Yes, full disclosure, it’s marketing.

Peter: He’s trying to get you, you know, it’s trying to give you a reason to subscribe and become a paying subscriber, but there’s no obligation.

Peter: So if you’re interested, contact us with friendswithbrews.com.

Peter: The first five people who do that will get a free referral code to use and get a free month of Adam Mockler Media, which I think we both endorse.

Scott: Yep.

Scott: And by the way, here’s a little tip for you people.

Scott: Anything that you subscribe to, anything newsletter, anything that you have to give an email address to that you’re not 100% sure you’re going to do for the rest of your life, use hide my mail.

Scott: And if they don’t stop sending you stuff when you say unsubscribe, which I had recently happened, you just deactivate that email address and then that’s their problem.

Peter: Yep.

Peter: It’s great.

Peter: Yep.

Peter: It’s built in to hide my mail.

Peter: And there are plenty of other services.

Peter: Fast Mail has a way to do that too.

Peter: You make up as many trash aliases as you want.

Scott: So, yep.

Scott: All right.

Peter: On that note, we’re right about the one hour mark almost exactly in three, two, one, big red button.

Scott: Tell your friends.

Peter: Yeah, you went over.