Episode 1 – Friends?! With Beer?!?

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It's time for the first sips of Friends with Beer! Peter and Scott have some nice chocolatey stouts and talk about things that matter (to them)! Cats, cholesterol, cellphone carriers... it's all on topic!
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Friends with beer?

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(modem sound)

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My god that’s a long modem. I was just gonna say that takes a long time to connect.

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I have a shorter one.

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Of course after listening to the first one and then me playing that

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anyone can be forgiven for not feeling like it was shorter.

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Yeah, I think we should go with the quicker connect times next time. You know, if we just

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connect at like 300 baud, I think that’s fine. We don’t need to wait for the 56k VDOT, you know,

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whatever. VDOT insert protocol here. What was it? What? V.35? Is that what I’m thinking of?

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There was V.56. There was VDOT…

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There was VDOT something else. V.56 was the one that went

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went ba-dong ba-dong bong bong bong yeah i remember that sound like a twanging sound

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yep there was another v.fast or v.everything you know there were a few of those well i

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think v.fast was what originally got ousted and well i can’t remember is v.everything

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supported that and v.54 56 yeah i think v.fast and v.56 were two competing standards and

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eventually v.56 won anyway we haven’t even talked about who we are let’s pretend this

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the first one because in all honesty me going back and trying to salvage what we’ve done

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before seems highly unlikely if this sounds good at all yeah wait are you talking about previous

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recordings of this episode of this show or are you talking about previous podcasts that we’ve done

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both okay because either one seems equally applicable yeah i’m going to delete anything

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with our voices on it that i can find that’s a lot of podcasts hi i’m scott willsey and this is

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This is Peter Nikolaidis, my friend.

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What’s up?

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We are friends with beer.

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We’re also friends with each other.

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We’ve been friends with each other probably longer than we’ve known that we’re friends

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with beer.

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So, yeah, I guess, I mean, that’s a bit of a play on the name of the title of the podcast,

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but I had thought that the title would be like “Friends…”

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Comma with beer?

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Comma with beer, not that we are friends with beer.

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Right.

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But here’s the problem.

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think a lot of Americans understand the distinction if I might be so bold as to

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potentially insult some of our listeners. And you might. Mm-hmm. Okay. Well, go ahead.

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Potentially insult them. Oh, no, I don’t think that a lot of people understand

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the distinction. And a podcast title looks a hell of a lot better without a

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comma, so. Yeah, well, I got that. I’m pouring. So I already opened my bottle a

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while ago because it needed to warm up some. Oh, that’s the opposite of problem

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people usually have beer but i guess you had yours in the freezer no i had it in the refrigerator but

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this is a beer that is best drunk at around 50 degrees i don’t think beer should get drunk

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i think the people drinking the beer see here we go again with the comma oh sorry this beer is best

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comma drunk at 50 degrees what’s the comma saves lives joke i don’t remember i don’t know all i

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remember i only remember the one about helping your uncle jack off his horse yeah well there’s

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There’s one where if you don’t use the comma the kid dies. I don’t remember.

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Well, anyways, tonight my beer after I threatened to for several episodes, which are in the

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can apparently.

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Okay, just to remind the listener, Peter Nikolaidis is about to state his beer.

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A double chocolate three philosophers from Ommegang Brewery in Cooperstown, New York.

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And this is one of my favorite beers of all time. And the reason is this is like an event

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for me. I can’t just drink one of these because it’s 9.7% alcohol. Right. So this is a commitment.

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So I’ve pretty much trashed the entire evening dedicated to this beer and this podcast. So

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I hope you and you, dear listener, appreciate the sacrifice I am about to make. So to you,

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cheers. Peter, not only do I appreciate the sacrifice that you’ve made with your beer

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your friendship and your time. I appreciate the sacrifice that you made with your effort

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to get set up for this recording. I really do. I really appreciate that. Now, I’m Scott

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Wilsey again in case the people haven’t learned our voices yet. I’m the one who was charitably

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described by a listener to a different podcast of mine as the nerdy sounding guy.

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Well, I mean that’s a step up, right? That’s a step up from a voice for print, right?

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Well, he went on to say other things, but I won’t repeat them here.

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Oh, well, he started off, you know, gentle.

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He started off with the best.

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It’s kind of blurry.

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Can you hold it up like right in front of your face?

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Yeah.

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And back it up a little bit.

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This is a three creeks, five pine chocolate porter.

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So it’s interesting, three creeks as in C-R-E-E-K-S?

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Right, that’s right.

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Because this is a, let me see, this combination,

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this is a blend of a Belgian quadruple and a creek ale.

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K-R-I-E-K.

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K-R-I-E-K?

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Yeah, it’s a type of, like a fruity type of beer.

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I didn’t know that.

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So we both got chocolate, we both got creek.

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Bingo, exactly.

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And that was not planned.

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No, it was not.

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Which is kind of cool.

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Now what’s awesome though is this beer is something

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that is best enjoyed with some fine foods.

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So to go with it.

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Oh wow, you’re on me.

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I have some cherries.

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Oh my gosh.

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Dark red cherries.

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Peter, you’re romancing yourself tonight, aren’t you?

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And well, I am alone tonight. Well with you, but anyway,

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and some dark chocolate covered almonds.

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Those are beautiful.

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They are, and they’re going to pair very well with this beer. So anyway,

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this is the, a very limited edition dark chocolate,

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double chocolate roasted version. And they coincidentally,

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they use Taza chocolate, which is based right here in Somerville,

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Massachusetts, one town over from me. So like I said,

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this is just not a beer though. It’s not a beer that is taste.

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You don’t just pull this out of the fridge and crack it open because number one, it’s

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too warm and number two, it’s best served with some kind of good tasting food.

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So, on that note, I’m going to eat a cherry and have a sip of beer and I’ll let you talk

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for a bit.

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Well, I’m so glad that when you started your sentence with “pull this” that it didn’t

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go where I thought it was going.

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I’m glad that it was just pulling it out of your fridge.

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You should never pull your beer out of where I thought you were going to pull it out of.

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Yeah, so let’s talk a little bit about this podcast because apparently this is episode

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one even though it’s like episode three but you know what everyone needs a an unreleased back

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catalog that shall never see the light of day and a lot of people might argue that our released

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catalog should never see the light of day but this is a podcast in which peter and i get together we

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have a nice conversation we have been friends for many years and we don’t get to talk as much as we

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like so we have been talking and we thought let’s do a podcast out of it we’ve done lots of other

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podcast Peter as all of his fans know we were just dealing with his fans a minute ago we had

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to push them off to one side his fans know that he was on the fresh Ubuntu podcast yes back in the

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day we had 10,000 listeners when 10,000 listeners was actually a thing and what were you galactic

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overlord supreme i was nominated supreme galactic overlord yeah i’d have to go back and find those

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exact episodes where um zerg challenged me to a fistfight that was kind of interesting

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Didn’t you have something about the geek-the technology in your title too, though? What was it?

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Probably. Honestly, I’d have to go back and listen to some of those episodes.

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Sorry, I’m eating another cherry on it now.

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And now you currently have a podcast that is still active called Blurring the Lines.

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Correct. That one is one that I co-host with my friend Adam Bell.

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That’s right.

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And he’s down in Nashville, Tennessee. You, however, are up on the left coast.

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I am on the best coast. You’re on the best coast. I’m on the least coast. And Adam is one hour

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closer towards you. Right, now here’s the thing. I’m-the jokes is just jokes. The jokes, the japes,

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the hilarities about the coasts. I don’t really care, although I like kind of where I live,

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I guess. I have to live somewhere. Apparently I do. I’m a mortal being with a body. But I have a

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friend that lives in Kentucky who I do a lot of podcasting with and he they try

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him and Clay try to convince me that the Eastern time zone is the one true time

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zone now I think they’re off by five exactly anything that is an offset of

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zero it seems like I don’t know how you can even begin to justify that argument

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like I can sum it up in one word America oh okay well there’s three a words I was

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thinking of that could have applied.

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Let’s get the third one.

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I did throw together a few topics, but unlike our other podcasts, which are more structured,

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this is just like, you know, whatever.

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If we remember to talk about them, great.

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Because generally when with friends with beer, conversation just kind of tends to happen.

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It does, yeah.

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A lot of times.

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And then somebody inevitably ends up with their face in the peanut bowl.

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Right.

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For me, actually, it’s dark chocolate covered almonds today,

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not peanuts, but you know, that might happen.

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Okay, either way your face is gonna be here nuts.

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(laughing)

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So I did my first Bikram yoga class for a long time today.

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Pete is a yoga instructor, by the way.

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Oh, I am a yoga instructor, by the way,

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but I have not done Bikram for several years.

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Explain your Bikram to me.

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Well, actually I found an online class

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and I figured since it was 90 degrees

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and I wanted to be outside,

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why don’t I do a hot yoga class outside? So that’s what I did today.

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Okay. When I hear the term hot yoga, I get really afraid.

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I feel like there’s a crossover between people that do hot yoga and

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people that get caught up in a wild internet sting of child molesters.

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Am I wrong? Okay.

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I can’t say that you’re completely wrong because there is,

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there has been an intersection, but first off, hot yoga,

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Generally, not always, but generally what we know today as hot yoga came out of what

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was known or is known as Bikram yoga. Bikram yoga was founded by this dude, Bikram Chaudhary.

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So also, dear listener, the first thing to go when I’m drinking a good beer is my speech

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gets a little bit woo, and that’s already happening because this is a strong beer.

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I’m the same way and it’s proof that I’ve never been drunk on the job because I would

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never be able to hide it.

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So Bikram founded Bikram Yoga, which is this sequence, and it’s always the same sequence

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done in the same order.

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Seriously?

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Yeah, it is.

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There’s no variation?

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No, no variation.

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Do they also refer to that as a vinyasa?

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No, it is not vinyasa.

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Vinyasa is different.

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It’s similar, but it’s different.

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Ashtanga Yoga also is a fixed sequence, and that’s where vinyasas came from.

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But anyway, Bikram yoga is generally done in like, I think it’s 105 degree, supposed

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to be an indoor 105 degree heated studio. Bikram frankly is a scumbag and a womanizer,

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guilty, well not guilty, accused of multiple counts of sexual assault, lots of really not

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shady but completely underhanded business practices. And he fled the country.

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Okay, so he was I thought you said something about a woman then I thought you were saying the woman was no

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He was a womanizer idolatry or whatever you say. So no womanizer him so

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Okay, no idolatry

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So he took like a bunch of his Rolls Royces over to back to india and uh fled the country a few years ago

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Wait, was this guy called Rajneesh by any chance? No. No, that’s someone else

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so anyway, so um, so that said his yoga sequence I I still kind of like and i’m

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not one of those people who throws the, I guess, the bathwater out with the baby in this case.

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I don’t know if it’s reversed. There are a lot of people who condemn him for his actions, which…

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Rightly so.

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I stand by.

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Yep.

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But then, you know, there’s other good that he did by bringing, you know,

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he did help popularize yoga in the United States.

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Oh, now it’s starting to become clear to me.

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Right. So he was like with, I don’t even remember now, again,

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beers kicking in, might’ve been Jane Fonda, um, Madonna.

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He was like the yoga teacher teacher to a number of stars in Hollywood and he

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just kind of cleaned up over there and that’s how he became super duper popular.

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Gotcha. But it’s also how as a result,

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yoga became very popular in, you know, thanks in no small parts to him.

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There were essentially like half a dozen people, most of them Indian males,

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who popularized yoga in the West.

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And they were responsible for the major offshoots of yoga that we have today.

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You had asked about vinyasa.

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That came mostly from Ashtanga, which was founded by Pattabhi Joyce,

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also an accused womanizer and serial sexual assaulter type of person.

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Um, cough.

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This is where…

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See, I’m not a person that wants to know anything about actors, anything about musicians.

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I don’t want to know because you’re always going to be sad.

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These people are why.

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And I am not a person that can just say, “Well, it depends, right?”

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Like if they’re just a kind of a jerk, whatever, but if somebody is responsible for doing really

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bad things but they also have an amazing body of work. I’m not one that can really separate

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that out too well. I’m going to think of it every time.

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Let’s say that one of them had found the cure for cancer and you had cancer and this guy

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was just a complete and utter scumbag. Would you take the cure for cancer?

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Oh, I would absolutely take the cure.

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Right.

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Because then I could live to take my revenge upon their scumbaggyness.

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Well what if he was dead?

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Was it me that deaded him?

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No.

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Oh, well that’s disappointing.

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Yeah.

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So, that’s my point though, is that in my 200 hour yoga teacher training, one of my

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fellow students had been a victim of sexual abuse some time ago.

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And their argument was that we should throw out anything to do with these people who committed

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these heinous crimes.

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And I said, if that was the case, you and I would not be here right now.

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We would not be talking because two of the men who arguably are responsible for creating

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the styles of yoga that led to the foundation of this studio were those guys.

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So therefore we never would be here.

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Maybe we would have found some other form of yoga in some other studio, but we would

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not be here today if it wasn’t for what they had done.

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And I can say that, I believe, without elevating them to some sort of honorary pedestal. I

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can separate the man from the deed.

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Well, when I say that I have a hard time separating it, I don’t mean because I want to put them

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on a pedestal or think of them as a hero. That is definitely not it. Because if you

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have people that are genuine heroes, in the sense that we like to think of, you know,

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idols, heroes, whatever you want to call them.

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And a lot of their students do think of them that way.

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You’re gonna be disappointed.

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Yes.

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Now, here’s what I like about yoga.

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I’m very new to it.

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I don’t even know what kind of yoga I’m doing.

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I have Apple Fitness Plus.

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I’m doing the yoga sessions that they have on there.

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The thing about yoga is that it’s friggin’ amazing, man.

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It has changed completely how I feel physically and it has also changed my mental approach

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to life, which sounds like I’m being superlative here and making stuff up, but it actually

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isn’t.

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It’s a combination of things.

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It’s not just the yoga, but it has definitely made a huge difference in my physical training

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regimen, like how my body feels, how my body recuperates, how my body gets ready for exercise.

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All of those things are so much better now because I’m doing yoga.

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That I can state 100% sure because I was doing years of the same exact training without yoga

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and now I’m doing, you know, a couple, a handful of months with yoga and it’s made a huge difference.

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So yoga in and of itself, and I get that I’m being generic here, but it’s pretty frickin’

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amazing.

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Like, it does make a huge difference.

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So it’s… it is kind of troubling that something that is so beneficial, and that does, I think,

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promote mental focus, mental peace, mental quietness, the ability to start learning how

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to…

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I don’t know if you want to say meditate, but to focus in that particular way, that

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those things come from people who are obviously chaos machines.

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But let me let me stop you there, though.

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They popularized it and they may have refined it and stuff,

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but they didn’t create it. Right.

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So again, it’s sort of like saying

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if you like hamburgers, you know, you go to a restaurant

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and this guy cooks you an amazing hamburger, best burger

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with a side of fries that you have ever had before.

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And he serves you a beer, which is like the best beer

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you have ever tasted. Right. And then you find out after you’ve eaten all that that

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the guy was a child molester. Mm-hmm. Maybe you’re never gonna go back to that

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restaurant again but are you going to then swear off hamburgers and french fries

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and beer never again to eat those because that guy ate them? That doesn’t

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make any sense. Right and it definitely helps that that person it didn’t spring

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from the mind of that person. Yeah. I gotta let my cat out of the room. Hold on.

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That’s the new cat and he’s the awesome cat. He’s a little blurry because of the

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filter that Scott is using but he doesn’t seem to want to leave the room.

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Now he’s left the room. You know how cats are. If the door’s closed they want out.

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Door’s open he’ll want back in as soon as he actually gets around to

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going out so. So anyway yeah that was that’s our philosophical discussion on yoga.

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Anyway I’ve found it to be incredibly beneficial and it’s like

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anything else you really can’t explain it to people you have to do it and it’s

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one of those things where if you try to explain you just come across as annoying

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I know I’ve annoyed you on multiple times across the year over the years one

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of my thoughts was I wished I would have listened to Peter about this a long time

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ago but yeah anyway it’s it’s never too late to open your mind to stuff that you

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for some reason didn’t previously I will drink to that hmm and in fact I will

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pair that with a dark chocolate-covered almond yeah oh no he’s still right there

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He’s still right there.

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Dude, he is awesome.

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This cat, like we’ve had athletic cats before,

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but this cat, his timing, his speed, his strength,

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he’s just a badass and he knows it too.

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Sometimes he will just swat a toy right out of the air.

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You fling it and you think it’s going way over him

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and you snap it real fast and you’re right at his face

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and he’ll just smack it out of the air

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and then he’ll just go, like, is that all you got?

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(laughing)

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That’s awesome.

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Yeah, he’s a good cat.

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He did finally go outside. Now if you close the door he’ll want to come back in.

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He sure will.

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Oh look at that back bend.

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If I close it right now I’m good. I know he’s a yoga practitioner.

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All right I’m gonna try to close it.

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Yep he’s clear. I was gonna say use your foot. Mule kick that door shut. Good job.

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There we go.

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All right. So that was the main-ish fun topic. So I am eating a couple of dark chocolate

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almonds right now and that is going to up my cholesterol.

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I was afraid you were going to talk about stomach problems and needing to run.

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No, I’m getting, well I’m taking the week off from running. This is my first rest

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week in several months. My coach tells me I should

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take… Stomach problems and running, I didn’t mean run. I meant run.

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No, not that kind. Yeah. So my running coach has told me though that I

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should take one week off per month and I don’t generally do that, but I’m

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taking off like more like one week off per quarter or so and this is that week

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because it’s… Yeah, one week off a month sounds like a lot.

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It does. I mean, now this guy knows what he’s doing. He’s done like 50 milers and stuff

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like that, but I also maintain that everybody is different. So people have different needs

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and different goals and intentions.

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And different stages of life. You might find there are times where you do need that break

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more for a while.

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This is one of those times. So I’m taking the week off from running because it’s just

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been so bloody hot here.

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People are out in the street doing yoga naked and calling it hot yoga.

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hot yoga, right? But where I was going with that is I’ve got a blood test on Friday because

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I had my first physical in about a year and a half, about a week or two, almost two weeks

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ago because of COVID.

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They’re gonna find a lot of chocolate in your blood.

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Well, they found that my cholesterol is high, which has been the case for like years. It’s

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always been a little bit high.

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You are a healthy fit man. What’s with the cholesterol? You think it’s hereditary?

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I think it’s at least partially hereditary.

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Does it change when you change your exercise regime?

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Because like in 2018, when I started losing weight, my cholesterol plummeted.

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All my vitals got much better.

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My doctor couldn’t believe it.

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That’s the thing is I’ve been in relatively same, relatively good shape for the last several

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years, even though I’ve been running more as my principal form of exercise lately, nothing

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has dramatically changed.

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Like you can see my body has become a little more tone in this area and I’m a little, you

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you know, thinner and that, but overall I’m still in…

00:22:00.720 —> 00:22:04.620

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I was just telling you, I wasn’t going to show you.

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Okay.

00:22:09.660 —> 00:22:10.660

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But my point is that I haven’t changed dramatically.

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Right.

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You don’t have a…

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Like, for all we know, if you suddenly quit all of your fitness activities and you gained

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40 pounds, your cholesterol might be actually lethal right now.

00:22:23.380 —> 00:22:24.380

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Who knows?

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retested again, but just for kicks, I was trying to be good. This week I’ve been, you

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know, like completely avoiding red meats. I had some turkey today. I’ll probably go

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all vegan except for a little bit of cream in my coffee tomorrow and just see how that

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shapes up on Friday morning. See what happens, you know, how much of a variance like a few

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days can make in the diet.

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By the way, there are days you send me a screenshot of your food tracker. We both track our calories.

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And

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You will have coffee with cream for breakfast coffee with cream for lunch

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And then you’ll do like a 10-mile run or something and then you’ll finally have dinner

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And I say when and we say with cream that’s usually like a teaspoon of cream, right?

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But how do you do that? Like my blood sugar would be so low

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Now there are times where if my blood sugar is low and I get on the bike

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The first hour might be hell or the first 45 minutes or whatever. I will feel shaky

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I won’t be generating a lot of wattage in terms of like I’m not burning as many calories as I should be all these things and

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Then I will get a second wind and I’ll do okay, but it sucks compared to

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Normal, so how are you a guy that doesn’t have big blood sugar swings?

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I don’t think I do and I think that I’m probably on

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Not a 24-hour cycle. I’m probably more like on a 36 to 48 hour cycle. Okay, because I have been

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I’ve definitely gone through you know, like times where I will just fast

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Without like I would I would do like coffee and that is something I’ve done for many years on and off

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I’ll just like I’ll just have coffee and nothing until dinner. Yeah, for instance, but not feel hungry throughout the day

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Which is the interesting part not feel like oh, yeah, I’m hitting you know, if I find

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as I struggled with my weight a lot as a child into adulthood and

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I find that if I’m distracted, I’m not near food and I have something else to think about then

00:24:22.400 —> 00:24:29.420
I don’t think about food. If I am bored and food is plentiful. I find myself eating a lot, right?

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Yeah, yeah

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So like on a day like today

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My studio here is on my third floor and it’s 85 degrees even with the air conditioning on. I don’t work up here

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I work downstairs near the kitchen

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There’s an abundance of food and I’m near it all the time

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So that’s a struggle, you know, like to have to like, “Nope, let’s stay away from there.” Luckily if it’s a busy day at work

00:24:48.400 —> 00:24:51.980
I’m focused on that. Otherwise, I find myself snacking a lot.

00:24:51.980 —> 00:24:53.320
Yeah, same here.

00:24:53.320 —> 00:24:58.840
But it’s interesting because I do have the days like you’re describing where I can go without food and not really think about it.

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Usually what happens if I’m really busy at work and I’m deep into something

00:25:03.520 —> 00:25:08.520
I just all of a sudden realize that I am irrationally angry and I have to go get some calories into my body.

00:25:08.960 —> 00:25:13.200
Mm-hmm, but I do have those rare days where I literally don’t care and then it’s eight o’clock at night

00:25:13.200 —> 00:25:18.220
I really haven’t eaten much and I’m totally okay with it, but I can’t do that on a regular basis

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And I really wish I could yeah, because what I have found is the less I eat before a run the better

00:25:25.020 —> 00:25:33.640
Performance I have the better shape. I mean I could see that I definitely there is definitely a point to like for me

00:25:34.640 —> 00:25:39.560
Getting just enough that I’m not gonna feel that blood sugar issue during the exercise, but no more

00:25:39.560 —> 00:25:44.880
Absolutely, right and that’s the thing is like I need generally like at least an hour

00:25:44.880 —> 00:25:47.560
after eating something light

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Mm-hmm and two hours after eating something like, you know

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Anything more than light and like I need a day if I had like a huge big breakfast. I’m not running

00:25:56.680 —> 00:26:01.720
How would you write a century where you’re gonna be stuffing your face on the bike once in a while?

00:26:01.720 —> 00:26:05.160
you just have no choice because you will run out of you will bonk if you don’t.

00:26:05.160 —> 00:26:11.400
If I was doing a century, I would be doing pieces at a time, you know, 100, 100, 200 calorie Clif

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bars or something as I go along. You’re not going to sit down and eat a meal, although some people

00:26:15.400 —> 00:26:19.800
go a little nuts at the break stops, but you don’t have. Right, exactly. But I have found that,

00:26:19.800 —> 00:26:24.680
I mean, if I eat a lot and this used to happen also always in the Aikido days, I would eat too

00:26:24.680 —> 00:26:30.040
much on our lunch breaks and I come back for the afternoon class and I could barely move, you know.

00:26:30.040 —> 00:26:33.780
Especially since people were throwing you around and your stomach was probably exactly

00:26:33.780 —> 00:26:41.500
Very upset so I want to ask you so I mentioned to you I want to I need to vent so

00:26:41.500 —> 00:26:43.500
Okay, this is this is my form

00:26:43.500 —> 00:26:49.840
Cellphone carriers. Yes, sir. It’s a race to the bottom when it comes to customer service

00:26:49.840 —> 00:26:52.660
Yeah, here’s what I say to cell phone carriers kiss my ass

00:26:52.660 —> 00:26:55.660
Kiss his ass kiss your ass. Yes

00:26:55.660 —> 00:26:58.480
bingo, so I

00:26:59.480 —> 00:27:00.720
last

00:27:00.720 —> 00:27:07.320
April in April I switched from a from Verizon to AT&T. Mm-hmm the V to the a and

00:27:07.320 —> 00:27:13.320
Of course AT&T managed to completely botch the handoff as they do

00:27:13.320 —> 00:27:19.000
They messed up the onboarding process totally and after multiple hour-long calls

00:27:19.000 —> 00:27:25.240
I had to end up going to a store spend an hour there to get everything all squared away. Mm-hmm

00:27:25.240 —> 00:27:32.020
Just this week. I got a letter in the mail from Verizon saying hey, we’ve got this great deal for Verizon FiOS customers now

00:27:32.020 —> 00:27:35.960
I am a Verizon FiOS customer and a very happy FiOS customer

00:27:35.960 —> 00:27:41.560
I’m not happy that I have to keep on calling them up every year or two and threaten to switch to get a better deal

00:27:41.560 —> 00:27:44.760
Unless they give you the price you were bloody well paying before

00:27:44.760 —> 00:27:49.380
Exactly, but other than that as far as the service goes it’s been really good. Sure

00:27:49.380 —> 00:27:56.800
So here’s a deal now where they’ll give me essentially the same price as what I pay for AT&T wireless right now

00:27:56.800 —> 00:28:00.480
instead of AT&T including HBO Max

00:28:00.480 —> 00:28:08.020
Verizon is including Disney Plus which I do pay for and Apple music which I do pay for and

00:28:08.020 —> 00:28:11.980
Sure, it’s Disney Plus premium, which includes ESPN and Hulu

00:28:11.980 —> 00:28:16.120
so it was nice getting HBO Max, but

00:28:16.800 —> 00:28:20.680
Until all of the the Time Warner new DC, you know

00:28:20.680 —> 00:28:28.380
Titles start coming out next year or so. It’s not something I use a lot of so I’m not really missing that but Disney Plus

00:28:28.380 —> 00:28:31.320
I was just watching Loki before this episode

00:28:31.320 —> 00:28:38.840
I’m big fan of all the Marvel stuff Apple music is what I use religiously because I want something I can stream to my Apple watch

00:28:38.840 —> 00:28:41.440
Sure, so this sounds like a good deal

00:28:41.440 —> 00:28:45.520
While I was on the phone with the woman yesterday

00:28:46.360 —> 00:28:50.080
doing the transfer explaining to her that I

00:28:50.080 —> 00:28:52.600
want to

00:28:52.600 —> 00:28:55.200
you know, I need to port my number over and

00:28:55.200 —> 00:29:00.880
I and she was going to she was taking my address down. She was verifying my address

00:29:00.880 —> 00:29:06.480
To which they were going to send the new SIM card to use in my phone

00:29:06.480 —> 00:29:14.960
Which I was talking to her on wait, which carrier is this? I was speaking to Verizon coming from AT&T. I

00:29:16.120 —> 00:29:19.120
Could be mistaken, but Verizon doesn’t need a SIM.

00:29:19.120 —> 00:29:21.120
Sometimes they do. In this case it does.

00:29:21.120 —> 00:29:28.120
And in this case, while I was talking with them, she completed the port of the number.

00:29:28.120 —> 00:29:29.120
And the call dropped.

00:29:29.120 —> 00:29:31.120
Oh no.

00:29:31.120 —> 00:29:37.120
Because AT&T immediately accepted the port and I lost cell phone servers yesterday.

00:29:37.120 —> 00:29:42.120
And I had an after-hours upgrade scheduled for work.

00:29:42.120 —> 00:29:46.440
and my girlfriend was getting her new Tesla and I had

00:29:46.440 —> 00:29:51.760
Insisted on not just offered I insisted on driving her to the dealership to pick it up

00:29:51.760 —> 00:29:54.880
so I was going to be out of Wi-Fi range and

00:29:54.880 —> 00:30:01.520
That’s when Verizon decided to do this now. I’m like, it’s a simple order of operations

00:30:01.520 —> 00:30:04.040
Get the person the cell phone

00:30:04.040 —> 00:30:11.180
Port the number right get the person the sim port the number and this rocket scientist that I was talking to

00:30:11.760 —> 00:30:15.360
ported my number while I was on the phone with her.

00:30:15.360 —> 00:30:17.760
Seems like a bad idea.

00:30:17.760 —> 00:30:23.360
So the other reason though that I really moved to Verizon was that they were offering me

00:30:23.360 —> 00:30:28.760
$700 trade-in for this one and a half year old iPhone 11 that I have.

00:30:28.760 —> 00:30:30.560
That’s pretty good I gotta say.

00:30:30.560 —> 00:30:35.760
But I found out this yesterday, guess what? I found out. And a $300 rebate on top of that.

00:30:35.760 —> 00:30:37.760
Are you serious?

00:30:37.760 —> 00:30:38.480
Yeah.

00:30:38.480 —> 00:30:40.560
So are they paying you to have a phone?

00:30:40.560 —> 00:30:44.080
No, I needed to pay full taxes

00:30:44.080 —> 00:30:49.080
and taxes on a $1,099 phone are like a hundred bucks.

00:30:49.080 —> 00:30:50.400
Okay.

00:30:50.400 —> 00:30:52.620
And I needed to pay the remaining a hundred dollars.

00:30:52.620 —> 00:30:54.560
So I ended up paying like 150 bucks

00:30:54.560 —> 00:30:57.800
to get an iPhone 12 Pro Max.

00:30:57.800 —> 00:30:59.180
That is beautiful.

00:30:59.180 —> 00:31:01.320
And here’s the funny part.

00:31:01.320 —> 00:31:03.320
That Pro Max should be here

00:31:03.320 —> 00:31:05.360
before the stupid replacement SIM card

00:31:05.360 —> 00:31:06.680
that they mailed me, Will.

00:31:06.680 —> 00:31:08.640
I think what I might’ve been thinking about the SIM card

00:31:08.640 —> 00:31:11.260
was that I don’t remember what it was.

00:31:11.260 —> 00:31:12.820
There was something about when we switched

00:31:12.820 —> 00:31:16.800
from AT&T to Verizon, AT&T was all hung up on the SIM card

00:31:16.800 —> 00:31:19.000
and it might’ve been locked to AT&T, I don’t remember.

00:31:19.000 —> 00:31:20.560
But when we went to Verizon, it was like,

00:31:20.560 —> 00:31:22.240
whatever, it was totally unlocked.

00:31:22.240 —> 00:31:23.280
You could put any SIM in there.

00:31:23.280 —> 00:31:25.320
I think that might’ve been the difference.

00:31:25.320 —> 00:31:28.160
Right, so this phone was one

00:31:28.160 —> 00:31:31.180
that I got from Verizon in 2019.

00:31:31.180 —> 00:31:34.840
So it’s gone from Verizon to AT&T.

00:31:34.840 —> 00:31:36.520
So they’re like, “Oh, are we sure it’s compatible?”

00:31:36.520 —> 00:31:37.980
I’m like, “You guys sent it to me,

00:31:37.980 —> 00:31:39.720
So I’m pretty sure it’s compatible.

00:31:39.720 —> 00:31:40.560
Right.

00:31:40.560 —> 00:31:42.540
Yeah, actually it was the phone that I had before

00:31:42.540 —> 00:31:43.960
that when we did the switchover,

00:31:43.960 —> 00:31:45.300
this phone’s always been Verizon.

00:31:45.300 —> 00:31:46.840
But yeah, here’s the thing.

00:31:46.840 —> 00:31:49.200
Like I was gonna go back to AT&T at one point

00:31:49.200 —> 00:31:52.400
and we’re in the Apple store,

00:31:52.400 —> 00:31:53.880
they do the verification, right?

00:31:53.880 —> 00:31:56.260
They have to call AT&T or whoever.

00:31:56.260 —> 00:31:58.100
And AT&T asks you a bunch of questions

00:31:58.100 —> 00:31:59.240
and they kept asking me,

00:31:59.240 —> 00:32:01.020
”When did you live on such and such a street?”

00:32:01.020 —> 00:32:03.940
And I couldn’t understand what they were saying.

00:32:03.940 —> 00:32:05.580
I’m like, “I never lived on that street.”

00:32:05.580 —> 00:32:07.320
And they’re like, “Okay, well, you’re declined.”

00:32:07.320 —> 00:32:10.760
And I’m like, I don’t know what you were saying.

00:32:10.760 —> 00:32:13.660
Whatever you were saying is not a street that I lived on.

00:32:13.660 —> 00:32:16.120
The funny part too, AT&T,

00:32:16.120 —> 00:32:18.480
one of the reasons I needed to stand there for an hour

00:32:18.480 —> 00:32:22.320
in the store was they wanted to do a credit check on me.

00:32:22.320 —> 00:32:25.280
Even though I’m bringing my own phone.

00:32:25.280 —> 00:32:26.560
Yes, yes, yes.

00:32:26.560 —> 00:32:29.640
And I’m prepaying it, they wanted a credit check.

00:32:29.640 —> 00:32:33.380
So I had to call all three credit reporting agencies

00:32:33.380 —> 00:32:35.120
to unfreeze my credit.

00:32:35.120 —> 00:32:35.960
Right.

00:32:35.960 —> 00:32:38.400
while I’m on the phone, you know, while I’m standing in the store.

00:32:38.400 —> 00:32:40.440
Verizon, they’re like, “No, you’re good.”

00:32:40.440 —> 00:32:41.760
Yeah, exactly, right.

00:32:41.760 —> 00:32:45.160
The thing is, I had been an AT&T customer not that long ago,

00:32:45.160 —> 00:32:47.280
and so I’m like, “Guys, check your records.

00:32:47.280 —> 00:32:49.600
You will see that I paid for years.

00:32:49.600 —> 00:32:52.080
I didn’t run away. I didn’t stiff you on any bills.”

00:32:52.080 —> 00:32:53.360
No, we can’t do that.

00:32:53.360 —> 00:32:56.560
Right. It’s almost like their computers

00:32:56.560 —> 00:32:58.880
can’t go back in time and look at previous records.

00:32:58.880 —> 00:33:00.040
They can’t.

00:33:00.040 —> 00:33:03.280
OK. Well, I guess you and I know nothing about computers then.

00:33:03.280 —> 00:33:05.000
Mm-mm. We don’t.

00:33:05.000 —> 00:33:05.760
That’s true.

00:33:05.760 —> 00:33:09.440
So I’m still waiting. I have to check my email.

00:33:09.440 —> 00:33:11.240
But the other part was…

00:33:11.240 —> 00:33:13.100
So you’re still without phone?

00:33:13.100 —> 00:33:14.440
I am without phone.

00:33:14.440 —> 00:33:18.100
I am without phone, but fortunately I have iMessage,

00:33:18.100 —> 00:33:20.360
so most people can text me.

00:33:20.360 —> 00:33:23.600
I also use RingCentral for my consultancy,

00:33:23.600 —> 00:33:27.020
so I can make and receive phone calls at the work numbers.

00:33:27.020 —> 00:33:27.960
Okay, okay.

00:33:27.960 —> 00:33:31.220
But so much stuff is set up to use my cell phone number.

00:33:31.220 —> 00:33:32.060
Yeah.

00:33:32.060 —> 00:33:34.520
I tried to log into the Sophos partner portal,

00:33:34.520 —> 00:33:37.260
And of course it’s set to set up SMS.

00:33:37.260 —> 00:33:39.980
Yeah, right now some package somewhere on a UPS truck

00:33:39.980 —> 00:33:41.920
is getting authorization codes.

00:33:41.920 —> 00:33:44.380
Right, exactly, exactly.

00:33:44.380 —> 00:33:46.020
So I can’t find anything.

00:33:46.020 —> 00:33:50.480
And oh, my Nest thermostat, for whatever reason today,

00:33:50.480 —> 00:33:53.420
decided it was time for me to re-authenticate

00:33:53.420 —> 00:33:55.860
and that I had set up two-factor authentication

00:33:55.860 —> 00:33:57.060
using my cell phone.

00:33:57.060 —> 00:33:58.360
OMG.

00:33:58.360 —> 00:34:00.080
So that’s annoying.

00:34:00.080 —> 00:34:02.920
The other part is like my phone hasn’t shipped yet.

00:34:02.920 —> 00:34:05.240
So it might actually be a couple days.

00:34:05.240 —> 00:34:06.560
Wait a minute.

00:34:06.560 —> 00:34:08.520
Not only did she do this in the wrong order,

00:34:08.520 —> 00:34:11.160
but now they are just waddling around twiddling their thumbs

00:34:11.160 —> 00:34:13.480
and not shipping you a phone to correct the problem.

00:34:13.480 —> 00:34:14.560
Uh-huh.

00:34:14.560 —> 00:34:15.400
Wow.

00:34:15.400 —> 00:34:17.440
So what I probably will end up doing

00:34:17.440 —> 00:34:19.720
is the same thing I did last time in 2019

00:34:19.720 —> 00:34:22.800
after I had a horrific onboarding experience.

00:34:22.800 —> 00:34:26.720
I’m going to call them and complain multiple times

00:34:26.720 —> 00:34:28.680
and see if I can get better credits.

00:34:28.680 —> 00:34:30.000
Right, but here’s what you’re gonna hear

00:34:30.000 —> 00:34:30.840
on the other side of the line.

00:34:30.840 —> 00:34:32.520
Yes, yes, I understand.

00:34:32.520 —> 00:34:35.840
But here’s the thing. I don’t care.

00:34:35.840 —> 00:34:42.480
So I got, I got, I ended up getting like 500 bucks or so of credits and discounts last time.

00:34:42.480 —> 00:34:43.380
Yeah.

00:34:43.380 —> 00:34:43.880
Yeah.

00:34:43.880 —> 00:34:47.080
And that’s the other thing. Why did I leave in the first place from AT&T?

00:34:47.080 —> 00:34:48.680
Peter, why did you leave in the first place?

00:34:48.680 —> 00:34:56.320
Because the Verizon plan I was on was 10 gigabytes per month shared by me and my father’s cell phone and my Apple Watch.

00:34:56.320 —> 00:34:57.220
Mm-hmm.

00:34:57.220 —> 00:35:01.820
For the same price, AT&T gave me 100 gigabytes of LTE data.

00:35:02.020 —> 00:35:07.300
and 30 gigs of hotspot. Now, here’s the funny part. Coming back to Verizon, they’re giving me

00:35:07.300 —> 00:35:13.140
75 gigs of data and 30 gigs of hotspot. But see, that’s the problem with all of these carriers,

00:35:13.140 —> 00:35:19.940
whether it be land, internet, whether it be cellular, whatever. They always treat the

00:35:19.940 —> 00:35:26.660
incoming people so well and they just stiff the crap out of the existing people. Which is why

00:35:26.660 —> 00:35:31.460
every now and then it makes sense to be an outgoing/incoming person. That’s right, even

00:35:31.460 —> 00:35:32.500
even though it sucks.

00:35:32.500 —> 00:35:33.820
It shouldn’t be that way.

00:35:33.820 —> 00:35:34.860
I would think as a business,

00:35:34.860 —> 00:35:36.620
what you would want is a loyal customer

00:35:36.620 —> 00:35:38.660
just in case they decide not to come back.

00:35:38.660 —> 00:35:39.700
Yep.

00:35:39.700 —> 00:35:41.020
And that’s one of the things.

00:35:41.020 —> 00:35:43.860
It costs a lot less to retain a customer

00:35:43.860 —> 00:35:45.540
than it does to get a new one.

00:35:45.540 —> 00:35:46.380
It does.

00:35:46.380 —> 00:35:48.380
And here they are though, they’re underscoring this.

00:35:48.380 —> 00:35:51.860
They’re giving us super colossal benefits and deals

00:35:51.860 —> 00:35:54.220
all the time to win us or to win us back.

00:35:54.220 —> 00:35:56.880
I’m like, yeah, if you just hadn’t sucked

00:35:56.880 —> 00:35:57.740
in the first place,

00:35:57.740 —> 00:35:59.820
you wouldn’t have to do any winning me back.

00:35:59.820 —> 00:36:01.140
I’d still be here.

00:36:01.140 —> 00:36:05.860
could make more money on you over time if they just gave you a little bit better deal

00:36:05.860 —> 00:36:08.500
rather than having to woo you back.

00:36:08.500 —> 00:36:09.500
Just a little.

00:36:09.500 —> 00:36:15.020
So on that note, I am curious though, you did mention to me that you were for the first

00:36:15.020 —> 00:36:22.020
time in a long time really excited about the Apple Worldwide Developer.

00:36:22.020 —> 00:36:23.500
Excuse me.

00:36:23.500 —> 00:36:24.500
Burp.

00:36:24.500 —> 00:36:26.060
When you drink beer sometimes you burp.

00:36:26.060 —> 00:36:28.780
No, I get excited about WWDC but…

00:36:28.780 —> 00:36:30.860
But you said you were really excited about stuff.

00:36:30.860 —> 00:36:32.340
So I have two questions.

00:36:32.340 —> 00:36:34.940
Okay, I’ll answer them both to the best of my ability.

00:36:34.940 —> 00:36:36.620
And one of them you’re like, this is boring,

00:36:36.620 —> 00:36:37.540
I don’t wanna talk about it.

00:36:37.540 —> 00:36:40.820
But unrelated to this directly to WWDC though,

00:36:40.820 —> 00:36:43.660
what do you think the next iPhone will be called?

00:36:43.660 —> 00:36:45.660
Because they’re not gonna do a 13.

00:36:45.660 —> 00:36:46.760
Oh, I don’t know.

00:36:46.760 —> 00:36:48.340
There won’t be an iPhone 13.

00:36:48.340 —> 00:36:49.920
I don’t know, maybe they will.

00:36:49.920 —> 00:36:50.760
I don’t think they will.

00:36:50.760 —> 00:36:52.660
I don’t know, maybe they’ll just call it iPhone.

00:36:52.660 —> 00:36:53.820
Maybe I don’t know.

00:36:53.820 —> 00:36:55.080
(gasps)

00:36:55.080 —> 00:36:57.100
Maybe that’s it, they dropped numbers altogether.

00:36:57.100 —> 00:36:59.200
That’s just iPhone.

00:36:59.200 —> 00:37:01.160
I mean, that’s what they do with the Mac.

00:37:01.160 —> 00:37:02.760
And they did that with the iPad too.

00:37:02.760 —> 00:37:04.280
Right, they do that with the iPad.

00:37:04.280 —> 00:37:07.720
The only designation on the iPad is iPad Pro, iPad Air,

00:37:07.720 —> 00:37:08.940
iPad, but yeah. Yeah, maybe it’ll just

00:37:08.940 —> 00:37:10.200
be iPhone.

00:37:10.200 —> 00:37:12.000
Okay, that’s my first question.

00:37:12.000 —> 00:37:14.040
Yeah, but people have been predicting that

00:37:14.040 —> 00:37:15.720
for a long time and it hasn’t happened, so I don’t know.

00:37:15.720 —> 00:37:17.560
I don’t know the answer to that question.

00:37:17.560 —> 00:37:19.520
’Cause they did skip the nine.

00:37:19.520 —> 00:37:21.400
Why was there no iPhone 9?

00:37:21.400 —> 00:37:26.200
Because the eight was simultaneous with the iPhone 10.

00:37:26.200 —> 00:37:27.040
Yeah.

00:37:27.040 —> 00:37:28.040
It was kinda weird.

00:37:28.040 —> 00:37:29.520
I was.

00:37:29.520 —> 00:37:33.280
And after that, they completely dumped the,

00:37:33.280 —> 00:37:34.780
well, I don’t know, man.

00:37:34.780 —> 00:37:35.620
Yeah.

00:37:35.620 —> 00:37:39.440
There’s no telling what’s going on in the mind of Tim Apple.

00:37:39.440 —> 00:37:40.820
Well, let’s just put it this way.

00:37:40.820 —> 00:37:44.320
Apple’s been terrible with naming for a long time.

00:37:44.320 —> 00:37:47.060
Like the Apple XS Max, that’s what I have.

00:37:47.060 —> 00:37:49.440
They’re just done with names.

00:37:49.440 —> 00:37:50.480
I mean, come on.

00:37:50.480 —> 00:37:51.540
And then two.

00:37:51.540 —> 00:37:54.000
And they should have known that no one would think

00:37:54.000 —> 00:37:55.140
that it was a XS Max.

00:37:55.140 —> 00:37:56.400
Everyone would say X.

00:37:56.400 —> 00:37:59.720
So to most people it’s an XS Max.

00:37:59.720 —> 00:38:02.940
Which I love because again, when I was a kid growing up,

00:38:02.940 —> 00:38:05.440
my favorite rock band was in XS.

00:38:05.440 —> 00:38:08.680
So when I see the 10 XS, you know, I was like,

00:38:08.680 —> 00:38:09.940
that’s awesome, I love it.

00:38:09.940 —> 00:38:11.580
It’s not like they didn’t know that was gonna happen

00:38:11.580 —> 00:38:13.840
because for years people have been calling

00:38:13.840 —> 00:38:16.900
what is now macOS that was previously macOS 10.

00:38:16.900 —> 00:38:18.220
OS X. OS X.

00:38:18.220 —> 00:38:19.800
People have been calling it Mac.

00:38:19.800 —> 00:38:21.920
Yeah, people have been calling it OS X, that’s right.

00:38:21.920 —> 00:38:22.760
Yep.

00:38:22.760 —> 00:38:23.960
So they knew that was gonna happen.

00:38:23.960 —> 00:38:25.960
They absolutely knew that was gonna happen.

00:38:25.960 —> 00:38:30.960
But within their super slick immaculate white walls

00:38:30.960 —> 00:38:36.120
in Cupertino, no one ever referred to it as OSX

00:38:36.120 —> 00:38:38.520
and therefore they did not know that was gonna happen.

00:38:38.520 —> 00:38:40.200
No, but speaking of white walls,

00:38:40.200 —> 00:38:43.000
I hate to put too much stock in my own criminology,

00:38:43.000 —> 00:38:46.240
but I do believe that Jony Ive leaving Apple

00:38:46.240 —> 00:38:47.760
was not a bad thing for Apple.

00:38:47.760 —> 00:38:50.000
I definitely have come to that conclusion.

00:38:50.000 —> 00:38:53.120
Post Jony Ive products are getting better again, I think.

00:38:53.120 —> 00:38:55.120
I tend to agree.

00:38:55.120 —> 00:39:01.120
Would you say that Jony Ive leaving Apple offsets Steve Jobs leaving Apple?

00:39:01.120 —> 00:39:04.640
It’s hard to say because I think Tim Cook started off as a really good CEO.

00:39:04.640 —> 00:39:10.240
And he still is in some ways, but I feel like the further we get in time from the death of Steve

00:39:10.240 —> 00:39:14.960
Jobs… Now, Steve Jobs wasn’t perfect. Look, I’ve been following this stuff since the 70s.

00:39:14.960 —> 00:39:21.280
I’m not one of the people that has this mythological idea about Steve Jobs, but

00:39:21.280 —> 00:39:23.200
I mean, he was an athlete, let’s just be honest.

00:39:23.200 —> 00:39:28.160
Sure, just like Bikram. Well, maybe not a sexual offender.

00:39:28.160 —> 00:39:31.520
Yeah, as far as we know, not that. But, nonetheless.

00:39:31.520 —> 00:39:34.880
Right, he did try to deny his own daughter.

00:39:34.880 —> 00:39:37.040
There’s the mark of a truly great man.

00:39:37.040 —> 00:39:41.360
But the further we get from that event, I feel like Tim Cook, and I think the bigger

00:39:41.360 —> 00:39:47.680
and richer Apple gets, I don’t like the way they portray their every business decision in such

00:39:47.680 —> 00:39:52.980
self-righteous terms like the way they they refuse to admit that

00:39:52.980 —> 00:39:56.940
their platform wouldn’t be nearly as valuable without developers

00:39:56.940 —> 00:40:00.040
and that they don’t you know, they justify all these little business expenses

00:40:00.040 —> 00:40:04.080
that are really nothing more than them bleeding developers dry for money

00:40:04.080 —> 00:40:06.340
and really bad optics.

00:40:06.340 —> 00:40:09.380
And I think Tim Cook is a lot worse about that kind of stuff than Steve Jobs was.

00:40:09.380 —> 00:40:11.080
And I think it’s getting worse over time.

00:40:11.080 —> 00:40:15.980
And I don’t know if it’s because Tim Cook is getting distance between himself

00:40:15.980 —> 00:40:20.440
than what he used to think, or if it’s just because Apple’s becoming a gigantic company

00:40:20.440 —> 00:40:24.600
and they have to keep growing because, you know, they’re beholden to Wall Street, just

00:40:24.600 —> 00:40:29.520
like all American companies. And Apple’s not a company that lives quarter by quarter, but

00:40:29.520 —> 00:40:34.620
I feel like they are definitely becoming a company that has to keep impressing Wall Street

00:40:34.620 —> 00:40:36.060
more than they used to care about.

00:40:36.060 —> 00:40:42.560
You know, I think what turned everything around, if at the next WWDC, Phil Schiller got up

00:40:42.560 —> 00:40:47.440
on stage and started yelling “developers developers developers developers!”

00:40:47.440 —> 00:40:50.880
Yeah. Does he have to sweat through a shirt too?

00:40:50.880 —> 00:40:51.440
Hell yeah!

00:40:51.440 —> 00:40:58.400
Okay. I wonder if there’s a Steve Ballmer sweat kit? Like you can just

00:40:58.400 —> 00:41:03.200
you can just drink something and it will just make your pores ooze sweat or maybe

00:41:03.200 —> 00:41:05.040
you just spray something on yourself.

00:41:05.040 —> 00:41:11.040
I have a friend who sweats like that whenever he eats hot spicy foods.

00:41:11.680 —> 00:41:15.880
Hmm. Well, I do sweat when I hot spicy food sometimes, but it’s usually the head.

00:41:15.880 —> 00:41:17.380
It’s usually like my face or something.

00:41:17.380 —> 00:41:23.620
So what I’m talking about is I had just done a 10K run and gotten in

00:41:23.620 —> 00:41:29.020
and my friend had shown up and I had not showered or anything.

00:41:29.020 —> 00:41:32.520
And I was, you know, like lightly sweating.

00:41:32.520 —> 00:41:35.460
I was not gross. I was not even I need a shower.

00:41:35.460 —> 00:41:39.980
I’m blessed by one of those things is like I do not reek when I sweat.

00:41:40.580 —> 00:41:45.620
Right. Now, if I if I don’t like shower for eight hours after I work out, that’s different.

00:41:45.620 —> 00:41:48.660
But like if I just finish a workout, I don’t stick.

00:41:48.660 —> 00:41:53.460
See, I think I sweat a lot when I exercise beyond a certain point.

00:41:53.460 —> 00:41:55.860
Right. Well, like if I just do yoga, I don’t.

00:41:55.860 —> 00:41:59.780
Yeah. Well, it depends on the type of exercise. But like I said, I just done a 10K.

00:41:59.780 —> 00:42:04.020
So. Right. Yeah. I would definitely need a shower. And some people might think I stink.

00:42:04.020 —> 00:42:06.580
I personally think I smell nice and minty fresh.

00:42:06.580 —> 00:42:12.420
I have actually been told by external parties, not myself, that I don’t stink after I sweat, so it’s not just me.

00:42:12.420 —> 00:42:15.060
Do they describe you as minty?

00:42:15.060 —> 00:42:25.300
I have been told, “Damn, you smell good,” and I was said, “You know, you are, you’re right. You don’t stink after you work out. You’re not a smelly guy.”

00:42:25.300 —> 00:42:29.060
So those are the, those are comments that I’ve gotten after a workout.

00:42:29.060 —> 00:42:34.420
Do people get body parts uncomfortably close to your legs after your run?

00:42:34.420 —> 00:42:42.100
She’s cute. I wouldn’t stop her. But anyway, so my friend came over and we had chicken wings and I made hot wings using various hot

00:42:42.100 —> 00:42:46.100
sauces and after a couple of these my friend was

00:42:46.100 —> 00:42:52.160
Drenched he had like the drenched V of sweat in the t-shirt thing going on

00:42:52.160 —> 00:42:57.260
Oh my god, and I took pictures of the two of us side by side and I was like one of us just ran a 10k

00:42:57.260 —> 00:42:59.260
Can you tell which?

00:43:00.980 —> 00:43:02.820
It was pretty hilarious.

00:43:02.820 —> 00:43:05.220
I do seem to recall an iPhone video

00:43:05.220 —> 00:43:06.980
of you eating some hot wings one day though,

00:43:06.980 —> 00:43:08.460
where you were getting pretty sweaty.

00:43:08.460 —> 00:43:11.380
Oh, that was the one where I was eating,

00:43:11.380 —> 00:43:14.540
that was the Salt Hill Pub wings challenge

00:43:14.540 —> 00:43:15.380
up in Hanover, New Hampshire.

00:43:15.380 —> 00:43:16.300
It was a challenge, yeah.

00:43:16.300 —> 00:43:18.300
Yes, and I remember it ‘cause I said,

00:43:18.300 —> 00:43:19.300
it’s got a good flavor,

00:43:19.300 —> 00:43:21.460
it’s too bad I can’t take my time to enjoy it.

00:43:21.460 —> 00:43:24.940
And you said you liked how I was intimidating the wing

00:43:24.940 —> 00:43:27.620
by telling it that it tasted good.

00:43:27.620 —> 00:43:31.620
I wanted to take my time to savor it.

00:43:31.620 —> 00:43:34.500
I play mind games with the food, Peter.

00:43:34.500 —> 00:43:35.900
You gotta play mind games with the food.

00:43:35.900 —> 00:43:44.660
So on that note, I have purchased all 10 of The Hot Ones season 15 hot sauces.

00:43:44.660 —> 00:43:47.980
Okay, I didn’t know that hot sauces came in seasons.

00:43:47.980 —> 00:43:51.540
The Hot Ones is a series.

00:43:51.540 —> 00:43:54.020
They publish it on YouTube, among other places.

00:43:54.020 —> 00:43:57.420
So instead of hot sauce of the month, club year, and a hot sauce of the year club?

00:43:57.420 —> 00:44:03.480
It’s they do seasons. I don’t know that that’s that it’s annual. Mm-hmm, but they do interviews. It’s a good show

00:44:03.480 —> 00:44:08.920
They interview you can pick like some famous person that you like and they will you know

00:44:08.920 —> 00:44:14.960
Probably have an interview by this guy Sean Evans on the hot ones and it’s they eat ten

00:44:14.960 —> 00:44:18.940
spicy hot one hot wings in increment, you know in

00:44:18.940 —> 00:44:23.840
Exponentially increasing level of hotness and they ask interviews

00:44:24.240 —> 00:44:27.700
So they have like off the top of my head. He’s interviewed

00:44:27.700 —> 00:44:29.980
Scarlett Johansson

00:44:29.980 —> 00:44:32.940
Neil degrasse Tyson Shaquille O’Neal

00:44:32.940 —> 00:44:39.720
Idris Alba. Oh my god big people. Yeah. Yeah, these are not, you know, like lots of big people so

00:44:39.720 —> 00:44:42.640
It’s pretty hilarious

00:44:42.640 —> 00:44:48.300
And so I broke down and I just ordered season 10 like all the hot sauces and I have them downstairs

00:44:48.300 —> 00:44:53.660
In my kitchen on display just waiting for my next wing night

00:44:53.660 —> 00:44:58.340
where I will be going through and eating all 10 of the wings in a row in

00:44:58.340 —> 00:45:04.820
escalating order of hot spiciness. I gotta say I didn’t even know about that

00:45:04.820 —> 00:45:09.700
but that is a much better podcast than what we’re doing here because anyone can

00:45:09.700 —> 00:45:15.460
drink beer and not flame out well not everyone but well maybe next maybe we

00:45:15.460 —> 00:45:19.420
should have friends with beer and a wing next time you know maybe yeah or maybe

00:45:19.420 —> 00:45:23.420
we should set something on fire and eat it that sounds even better on that

00:45:23.420 —> 00:45:27.820
On that note, I think this is a good point, a good time for us to wrap up this show.

00:45:27.820 —> 00:45:28.320
What do you think?

00:45:28.320 —> 00:45:29.320
I think so too.

00:45:29.320 —> 00:45:33.820
So if folks want to get a hold of us, I believe there’s a couple of places.

00:45:33.820 —> 00:45:38.720
I think the easiest people to remember is friendswithbeer.com.

00:45:38.720 —> 00:45:40.620
Yeah, and I swear to God I came up.

00:45:40.620 —> 00:45:42.520
Did I not make a Twitter account for this?

00:45:42.520 —> 00:45:43.920
Uh, you did.

00:45:43.920 —> 00:45:45.520
I don’t remember what it is though.

00:45:45.520 —> 00:45:46.020
But if you see…

00:45:46.020 —> 00:45:49.620
Isn’t it beer.tweetback.us, I think?

00:45:49.620 —> 00:45:51.020
I have no idea.

00:45:51.020 —> 00:45:59.480
But if you go to friendswithbeer.com, you will find us and you will find a link to our Twitter account, which is friendswbeerpod.

00:45:59.480 —> 00:46:01.460
Friends with beer pod.

00:46:01.460 —> 00:46:04.960
And I also registered another domain, but however it’s going to make me sign.

00:46:04.960 —> 00:46:08.480
You did. You did like friendswith.beer or something like that.

00:46:08.480 —> 00:46:11.060
But I don’t think people will necessarily remember that.

00:46:11.060 —> 00:46:15.880
But they will remember friendswithbeer.com because that’s easy for them to remember.

00:46:15.880 —> 00:46:17.920
You’re like Vic, you hate the clever ones.

00:46:17.920 —> 00:46:19.280
No, I like the clever ones.

00:46:19.440 —> 00:46:27.020
But I also know that people won’t remember friendswith.beer, which, by the way, is the address that you register.

00:46:27.020 —> 00:46:32.820
Okay. All right. Well, let me look and let me see what our Twitter one is, because it should be in my hover as well.

00:46:32.820 —> 00:46:35.120
I said it’s friendswbeerpod.

00:46:35.120 —> 00:46:38.820
No, no, no. I registered…

00:46:38.820 —> 00:46:45.520
So I have tweetback.me, tweetback.us, and I think I pointed beer.tweetback.us to…

00:46:45.520 —> 00:46:51.120
Yeah, beer.tweetback.us will take you to twitter.com/friendswbeerpod.

00:46:51.120 —> 00:46:54.400
So if it’s easier to remember beer.tweetback…

00:46:54.400 —> 00:46:55.240
Yeah, I’m sure.

00:46:55.240 —> 00:46:56.080
… you’re tweeting back at us.

00:46:56.080 —> 00:46:57.760
.us/…

00:46:57.760 —> 00:46:59.120
No, tweetback at us.

00:46:59.120 —> 00:47:01.040
Tweetback at us.

00:47:01.040 —> 00:47:03.120
See, on BubbleSort we have this whole tweetback thing.

00:47:03.120 —> 00:47:04.040
I don’t know how to start it.

00:47:04.040 —> 00:47:06.000
Friendswithbeer.com.

00:47:06.000 —> 00:47:08.320
Friendswithbeer.com will get you there eventually.

00:47:08.320 —> 00:47:09.200
Friendswithbeer.com.

00:47:09.200 —> 00:47:09.520
Yeah.

00:47:09.520 —> 00:47:10.880
So, uh…

00:47:10.880 —> 00:47:11.440
Yeah.

00:47:11.440 —> 00:47:11.880
So, Friends with Beer.com.

00:47:11.880 —> 00:47:14.160
Oh, anyway, as far as we can be found…

00:47:14.160 —> 00:47:16.160
As far as you’re concerned, I’m everywhere.

00:47:16.160 —> 00:47:17.660
Right? We’re everywhere.

00:47:17.660 —> 00:47:21.820
But I think if they start at friendswithbeer.com, they’ll find us.

00:47:21.820 —> 00:47:22.360
Thanks, so too.

00:47:22.360 —> 00:47:30.400
Well, Peter Nikolaidis, I want people to understand that it’s not always gonna be yoga, AT&T, and it is always gonna be beer.

00:47:30.400 —> 00:47:33.400
But we talk about a lot of things. We like technology.

00:47:33.400 —> 00:47:33.720
We do.

00:47:33.720 —> 00:47:36.460
We like… You like running. I like biking.

00:47:36.460 —> 00:47:37.820
I like biking too.

00:47:37.820 —> 00:47:41.800
No, no. Yeah, you do. You’re a very avid mountain biker, especially.

00:47:41.800 —> 00:47:43.600
I was mountain biking Killington this weekend.

00:47:43.600 —> 00:47:46.000
That’s right. Never kill.

00:47:46.000 —> 00:47:48.960
You should never kill your bike. No, just did a ton of killing.

00:47:48.960 —> 00:47:52.000
I start actually I’m wondering now that I’m doing yoga,

00:47:52.000 —> 00:47:54.840
I bet I could do running again with much better results on my knees.

00:47:54.840 —> 00:47:58.640
That sounds like a challenge.

00:47:58.640 —> 00:48:00.760
I accept. Nope, I’m not going to.

00:48:00.760 —> 00:48:02.360
I’m still going to bike.

00:48:02.360 —> 00:48:04.360
All right. Well, this is great.

00:48:04.360 —> 00:48:06.240
And this will hopefully be episode one.

00:48:06.240 —> 00:48:08.720
I’m going to start editing this today.

00:48:08.720 —> 00:48:09.760
Today, my friend.

00:48:09.760 —> 00:48:12.800
On that note, I think it’s time to push the big red button.

00:48:12.800 —> 00:48:14.300
Inconceivable!