Episode 1 – Friends?! With Beer?!?

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Friends with beer?

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(modem sound)

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My god that’s a long modem. I was just gonna say that takes a long time to connect.

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I have a shorter one.

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Of course after listening to the first one and then me playing that

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anyone can be forgiven for not feeling like it was shorter.

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Yeah, I think we should go with the quicker connect times next time. You know, if we just

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connect at like 300 baud, I think that’s fine. We don’t need to wait for the 56k VDOT, you know,

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whatever. VDOT insert protocol here. What was it? What? V.35? Is that what I’m thinking of?

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There was V.56. There was VDOT…

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There was VDOT something else. V.56 was the one that went

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went ba-dong ba-dong bong bong bong yeah i remember that sound like a twanging sound

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yep there was another v.fast or v.everything you know there were a few of those well i

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think v.fast was what originally got ousted and well i can’t remember is v.everything

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supported that and v.54 56 yeah i think v.fast and v.56 were two competing standards and

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eventually v.56 won anyway we haven’t even talked about who we are let’s pretend this

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the first one because in all honesty me going back and trying to salvage what we’ve done

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before seems highly unlikely if this sounds good at all yeah wait are you talking about previous

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recordings of this episode of this show or are you talking about previous podcasts that we’ve done

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both okay because either one seems equally applicable yeah i’m going to delete anything

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with our voices on it that i can find that’s a lot of podcasts hi i’m scott willsey and this is

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This is Peter Nikolaidis, my friend.

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What’s up?

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We are friends with beer.

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We’re also friends with each other.

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We’ve been friends with each other probably longer than we’ve known that we’re friends

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with beer.

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So, yeah, I guess, I mean, that’s a bit of a play on the name of the title of the podcast,

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but I had thought that the title would be like “Friends…“

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Comma with beer?

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Comma with beer, not that we are friends with beer.

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Right.

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But here’s the problem.

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think a lot of Americans understand the distinction if I might be so bold as to

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potentially insult some of our listeners. And you might. Mm-hmm. Okay. Well, go ahead.

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Potentially insult them. Oh, no, I don’t think that a lot of people understand

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the distinction. And a podcast title looks a hell of a lot better without a

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comma, so. Yeah, well, I got that. I’m pouring. So I already opened my bottle a

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while ago because it needed to warm up some. Oh, that’s the opposite of problem

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people usually have beer but i guess you had yours in the freezer no i had it in the refrigerator but

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this is a beer that is best drunk at around 50 degrees i don’t think beer should get drunk

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i think the people drinking the beer see here we go again with the comma oh sorry this beer is best

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comma drunk at 50 degrees what’s the comma saves lives joke i don’t remember i don’t know all i

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remember i only remember the one about helping your uncle jack off his horse yeah well there’s

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There’s one where if you don’t use the comma the kid dies. I don’t remember.

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Well, anyways, tonight my beer after I threatened to for several episodes, which are in the

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can apparently.

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Okay, just to remind the listener, Peter Nikolaidis is about to state his beer.

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A double chocolate three philosophers from Ommegang Brewery in Cooperstown, New York.

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And this is one of my favorite beers of all time. And the reason is this is like an event

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for me. I can’t just drink one of these because it’s 9.7% alcohol. Right. So this is a commitment.

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So I’ve pretty much trashed the entire evening dedicated to this beer and this podcast. So

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I hope you and you, dear listener, appreciate the sacrifice I am about to make. So to you,

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cheers. Peter, not only do I appreciate the sacrifice that you’ve made with your beer

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your friendship and your time. I appreciate the sacrifice that you made with your effort

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to get set up for this recording. I really do. I really appreciate that. Now, I’m Scott

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Wilsey again in case the people haven’t learned our voices yet. I’m the one who was charitably

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described by a listener to a different podcast of mine as the nerdy sounding guy.

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Well, I mean that’s a step up, right? That’s a step up from a voice for print, right?

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Well, he went on to say other things, but I won’t repeat them here.

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Oh, well, he started off, you know, gentle.

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He started off with the best.

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It’s kind of blurry.

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Can you hold it up like right in front of your face?

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Yeah.

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And back it up a little bit.

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This is a three creeks, five pine chocolate porter.

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So it’s interesting, three creeks as in C-R-E-E-K-S?

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Right, that’s right.

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Because this is a, let me see, this combination,

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this is a blend of a Belgian quadruple and a creek ale.

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K-R-I-E-K.

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K-R-I-E-K?

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Yeah, it’s a type of, like a fruity type of beer.

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I didn’t know that.

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So we both got chocolate, we both got creek.

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Bingo, exactly.

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And that was not planned.

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No, it was not.

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Which is kind of cool.

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Now what’s awesome though is this beer is something

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that is best enjoyed with some fine foods.

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So to go with it.

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Oh wow, you’re on me.

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I have some cherries.

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Oh my gosh.

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Dark red cherries.

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Peter, you’re romancing yourself tonight, aren’t you?

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And well, I am alone tonight. Well with you, but anyway,

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and some dark chocolate covered almonds.

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Those are beautiful.

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They are, and they’re going to pair very well with this beer. So anyway,

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this is the, a very limited edition dark chocolate,

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double chocolate roasted version. And they coincidentally,

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they use Taza chocolate, which is based right here in Somerville,

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Massachusetts, one town over from me. So like I said,

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this is just not a beer though. It’s not a beer that is taste.

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You don’t just pull this out of the fridge and crack it open because number one, it’s

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too warm and number two, it’s best served with some kind of good tasting food.

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So, on that note, I’m going to eat a cherry and have a sip of beer and I’ll let you talk

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for a bit.

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Well, I’m so glad that when you started your sentence with “pull this” that it didn’t

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go where I thought it was going.

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I’m glad that it was just pulling it out of your fridge.

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You should never pull your beer out of where I thought you were going to pull it out of.

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Yeah, so let’s talk a little bit about this podcast because apparently this is episode

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one even though it’s like episode three but you know what everyone needs a an unreleased back

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catalog that shall never see the light of day and a lot of people might argue that our released

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catalog should never see the light of day but this is a podcast in which peter and i get together we

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have a nice conversation we have been friends for many years and we don’t get to talk as much as we

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like so we have been talking and we thought let’s do a podcast out of it we’ve done lots of other

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podcast Peter as all of his fans know we were just dealing with his fans a minute ago we had

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to push them off to one side his fans know that he was on the fresh Ubuntu podcast yes back in the

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day we had 10,000 listeners when 10,000 listeners was actually a thing and what were you galactic

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overlord supreme i was nominated supreme galactic overlord yeah i’d have to go back and find those

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exact episodes where um zerg challenged me to a fistfight that was kind of interesting

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Didn’t you have something about the geek-the technology in your title too, though? What was it?

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Probably. Honestly, I’d have to go back and listen to some of those episodes.

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Sorry, I’m eating another cherry on it now.

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And now you currently have a podcast that is still active called Blurring the Lines.

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Correct. That one is one that I co-host with my friend Adam Bell.

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That’s right.

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And he’s down in Nashville, Tennessee. You, however, are up on the left coast.

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I am on the best coast. You’re on the best coast. I’m on the least coast. And Adam is one hour

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closer towards you. Right, now here’s the thing. I’m-the jokes is just jokes. The jokes, the japes,

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the hilarities about the coasts. I don’t really care, although I like kind of where I live,

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I guess. I have to live somewhere. Apparently I do. I’m a mortal being with a body. But I have a

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friend that lives in Kentucky who I do a lot of podcasting with and he they try

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him and Clay try to convince me that the Eastern time zone is the one true time

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zone now I think they’re off by five exactly anything that is an offset of

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zero it seems like I don’t know how you can even begin to justify that argument

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like I can sum it up in one word America oh okay well there’s three a words I was

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thinking of that could have applied.

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Let’s get the third one.

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I did throw together a few topics, but unlike our other podcasts, which are more structured,

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this is just like, you know, whatever.

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If we remember to talk about them, great.

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Because generally when with friends with beer, conversation just kind of tends to happen.

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It does, yeah.

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A lot of times.

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And then somebody inevitably ends up with their face in the peanut bowl.

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Right.

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For me, actually, it’s dark chocolate covered almonds today,

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not peanuts, but you know, that might happen.

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Okay, either way your face is gonna be here nuts.

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(laughing)

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So I did my first Bikram yoga class for a long time today.

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Pete is a yoga instructor, by the way.

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Oh, I am a yoga instructor, by the way,

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but I have not done Bikram for several years.

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Explain your Bikram to me.

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Well, actually I found an online class

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and I figured since it was 90 degrees

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and I wanted to be outside,

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why don’t I do a hot yoga class outside? So that’s what I did today.

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Okay. When I hear the term hot yoga, I get really afraid.

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I feel like there’s a crossover between people that do hot yoga and

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people that get caught up in a wild internet sting of child molesters.

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Am I wrong? Okay.

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I can’t say that you’re completely wrong because there is,

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there has been an intersection, but first off, hot yoga,

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Generally, not always, but generally what we know today as hot yoga came out of what

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was known or is known as Bikram yoga. Bikram yoga was founded by this dude, Bikram Chaudhary.

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So also, dear listener, the first thing to go when I’m drinking a good beer is my speech

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gets a little bit woo, and that’s already happening because this is a strong beer.

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I’m the same way and it’s proof that I’ve never been drunk on the job because I would

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never be able to hide it.

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So Bikram founded Bikram Yoga, which is this sequence, and it’s always the same sequence

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done in the same order.

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Seriously?

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Yeah, it is.

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There’s no variation?

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No, no variation.

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Do they also refer to that as a vinyasa?

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No, it is not vinyasa.

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Vinyasa is different.

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It’s similar, but it’s different.

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Ashtanga Yoga also is a fixed sequence, and that’s where vinyasas came from.

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But anyway, Bikram yoga is generally done in like, I think it’s 105 degree, supposed

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to be an indoor 105 degree heated studio. Bikram frankly is a scumbag and a womanizer,

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guilty, well not guilty, accused of multiple counts of sexual assault, lots of really not

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shady but completely underhanded business practices. And he fled the country.

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Okay, so he was I thought you said something about a woman then I thought you were saying the woman was no

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He was a womanizer idolatry or whatever you say. So no womanizer him so

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Okay, no idolatry

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So he took like a bunch of his Rolls Royces over to back to india and uh fled the country a few years ago

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Wait, was this guy called Rajneesh by any chance? No. No, that’s someone else

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so anyway, so um, so that said his yoga sequence I I still kind of like and i’m

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not one of those people who throws the, I guess, the bathwater out with the baby in this case.

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I don’t know if it’s reversed. There are a lot of people who condemn him for his actions, which…

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Rightly so.

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I stand by.

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Yep.

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But then, you know, there’s other good that he did by bringing, you know,

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he did help popularize yoga in the United States.

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Oh, now it’s starting to become clear to me.

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Right. So he was like with, I don’t even remember now, again,

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beers kicking in, might’ve been Jane Fonda, um, Madonna.

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He was like the yoga teacher teacher to a number of stars in Hollywood and he

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just kind of cleaned up over there and that’s how he became super duper popular.

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Gotcha. But it’s also how as a result,

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yoga became very popular in, you know, thanks in no small parts to him.

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There were essentially like half a dozen people, most of them Indian males,

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who popularized yoga in the West.

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And they were responsible for the major offshoots of yoga that we have today.

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You had asked about vinyasa.

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That came mostly from Ashtanga, which was founded by Pattabhi Joyce,

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also an accused womanizer and serial sexual assaulter type of person.

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Um, cough.

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This is where…

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See, I’m not a person that wants to know anything about actors, anything about musicians.

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I don’t want to know because you’re always going to be sad.

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These people are why.

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And I am not a person that can just say, “Well, it depends, right?“

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Like if they’re just a kind of a jerk, whatever, but if somebody is responsible for doing really

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bad things but they also have an amazing body of work. I’m not one that can really separate

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that out too well. I’m going to think of it every time.

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Let’s say that one of them had found the cure for cancer and you had cancer and this guy

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was just a complete and utter scumbag. Would you take the cure for cancer?

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Oh, I would absolutely take the cure.

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Right.

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Because then I could live to take my revenge upon their scumbaggyness.

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Well what if he was dead?

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Was it me that deaded him?

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No.

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Oh, well that’s disappointing.

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Yeah.

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So, that’s my point though, is that in my 200 hour yoga teacher training, one of my

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fellow students had been a victim of sexual abuse some time ago.

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And their argument was that we should throw out anything to do with these people who committed

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these heinous crimes.

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And I said, if that was the case, you and I would not be here right now.

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We would not be talking because two of the men who arguably are responsible for creating

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the styles of yoga that led to the foundation of this studio were those guys.

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So therefore we never would be here.

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Maybe we would have found some other form of yoga in some other studio, but we would

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not be here today if it wasn’t for what they had done.

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And I can say that, I believe, without elevating them to some sort of honorary pedestal. I

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can separate the man from the deed.

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Well, when I say that I have a hard time separating it, I don’t mean because I want to put them

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on a pedestal or think of them as a hero. That is definitely not it. Because if you

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have people that are genuine heroes, in the sense that we like to think of, you know,

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idols, heroes, whatever you want to call them.

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And a lot of their students do think of them that way.

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You’re gonna be disappointed.

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Yes.

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Now, here’s what I like about yoga.

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I’m very new to it.

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I don’t even know what kind of yoga I’m doing.

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I have Apple Fitness Plus.

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I’m doing the yoga sessions that they have on there.

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The thing about yoga is that it’s friggin’ amazing, man.

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It has changed completely how I feel physically and it has also changed my mental approach

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to life, which sounds like I’m being superlative here and making stuff up, but it actually

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isn’t.

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It’s a combination of things.

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It’s not just the yoga, but it has definitely made a huge difference in my physical training

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regimen, like how my body feels, how my body recuperates, how my body gets ready for exercise.

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All of those things are so much better now because I’m doing yoga.

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That I can state 100% sure because I was doing years of the same exact training without yoga

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and now I’m doing, you know, a couple, a handful of months with yoga and it’s made a huge difference.

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So yoga in and of itself, and I get that I’m being generic here, but it’s pretty frickin’

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amazing.

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Like, it does make a huge difference.

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So it’s… it is kind of troubling that something that is so beneficial, and that does, I think,

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promote mental focus, mental peace, mental quietness, the ability to start learning how

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to…

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I don’t know if you want to say meditate, but to focus in that particular way, that

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those things come from people who are obviously chaos machines.

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But let me let me stop you there, though.

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They popularized it and they may have refined it and stuff,

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but they didn’t create it. Right.

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So again, it’s sort of like saying

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if you like hamburgers, you know, you go to a restaurant

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and this guy cooks you an amazing hamburger, best burger

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with a side of fries that you have ever had before.

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And he serves you a beer, which is like the best beer

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you have ever tasted. Right. And then you find out after you’ve eaten all that that

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the guy was a child molester. Mm-hmm. Maybe you’re never gonna go back to that

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restaurant again but are you going to then swear off hamburgers and french fries

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and beer never again to eat those because that guy ate them? That doesn’t

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make any sense. Right and it definitely helps that that person it didn’t spring

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from the mind of that person. Yeah. I gotta let my cat out of the room. Hold on.

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That’s the new cat and he’s the awesome cat. He’s a little blurry because of the

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filter that Scott is using but he doesn’t seem to want to leave the room.

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Now he’s left the room. You know how cats are. If the door’s closed they want out.

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Door’s open he’ll want back in as soon as he actually gets around to

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going out so. So anyway yeah that was that’s our philosophical discussion on yoga.

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Anyway I’ve found it to be incredibly beneficial and it’s like

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anything else you really can’t explain it to people you have to do it and it’s

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one of those things where if you try to explain you just come across as annoying

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I know I’ve annoyed you on multiple times across the year over the years one

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of my thoughts was I wished I would have listened to Peter about this a long time

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ago but yeah anyway it’s it’s never too late to open your mind to stuff that you

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for some reason didn’t previously I will drink to that hmm and in fact I will

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pair that with a dark chocolate-covered almond yeah oh no he’s still right there

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He’s still right there.

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Dude, he is awesome.

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This cat, like we’ve had athletic cats before,

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but this cat, his timing, his speed, his strength,

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he’s just a badass and he knows it too.

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Sometimes he will just swat a toy right out of the air.

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You fling it and you think it’s going way over him

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and you snap it real fast and you’re right at his face

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and he’ll just smack it out of the air

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and then he’ll just go, like, is that all you got?

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(laughing)

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That’s awesome.

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Yeah, he’s a good cat.

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He did finally go outside. Now if you close the door he’ll want to come back in.

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He sure will.

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Oh look at that back bend.

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If I close it right now I’m good. I know he’s a yoga practitioner.

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All right I’m gonna try to close it.

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Yep he’s clear. I was gonna say use your foot. Mule kick that door shut. Good job.

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There we go.

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All right. So that was the main-ish fun topic. So I am eating a couple of dark chocolate

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almonds right now and that is going to up my cholesterol.

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I was afraid you were going to talk about stomach problems and needing to run.

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No, I’m getting, well I’m taking the week off from running. This is my first rest

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week in several months. My coach tells me I should

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take… Stomach problems and running, I didn’t mean run. I meant run.

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No, not that kind. Yeah. So my running coach has told me though that I

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should take one week off per month and I don’t generally do that, but I’m

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taking off like more like one week off per quarter or so and this is that week

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because it’s… Yeah, one week off a month sounds like a lot.

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It does. I mean, now this guy knows what he’s doing. He’s done like 50 milers and stuff

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like that, but I also maintain that everybody is different. So people have different needs

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and different goals and intentions.

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And different stages of life. You might find there are times where you do need that break

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more for a while.

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This is one of those times. So I’m taking the week off from running because it’s just

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been so bloody hot here.

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People are out in the street doing yoga naked and calling it hot yoga.

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hot yoga, right? But where I was going with that is I’ve got a blood test on Friday because

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I had my first physical in about a year and a half, about a week or two, almost two weeks

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ago because of COVID.

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They’re gonna find a lot of chocolate in your blood.

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Well, they found that my cholesterol is high, which has been the case for like years. It’s

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always been a little bit high.

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You are a healthy fit man. What’s with the cholesterol? You think it’s hereditary?

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I think it’s at least partially hereditary.

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Does it change when you change your exercise regime?

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Because like in 2018, when I started losing weight, my cholesterol plummeted.

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All my vitals got much better.

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My doctor couldn’t believe it.

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That’s the thing is I’ve been in relatively same, relatively good shape for the last several

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years, even though I’ve been running more as my principal form of exercise lately, nothing

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has dramatically changed.

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Like you can see my body has become a little more tone in this area and I’m a little, you

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you know, thinner and that, but overall I’m still in…

00:22:00.720 —> 00:22:04.620

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I was just telling you, I wasn’t going to show you.

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Okay.

00:22:09.660 —> 00:22:10.660

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But my point is that I haven’t changed dramatically.

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Right.

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You don’t have a…

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Like, for all we know, if you suddenly quit all of your fitness activities and you gained

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40 pounds, your cholesterol might be actually lethal right now.

00:22:23.380 —> 00:22:24.380

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Who knows?

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retested again, but just for kicks, I was trying to be good. This week I’ve been, you

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know, like completely avoiding red meats. I had some turkey today. I’ll probably go

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all vegan except for a little bit of cream in my coffee tomorrow and just see how that

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shapes up on Friday morning. See what happens, you know, how much of a variance like a few

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days can make in the diet.

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By the way, there are days you send me a screenshot of your food tracker. We both track our calories.

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And

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You will have coffee with cream for breakfast coffee with cream for lunch

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And then you’ll do like a 10-mile run or something and then you’ll finally have dinner

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And I say when and we say with cream that’s usually like a teaspoon of cream, right?

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But how do you do that? Like my blood sugar would be so low

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Now there are times where if my blood sugar is low and I get on the bike

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The first hour might be hell or the first 45 minutes or whatever. I will feel shaky

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I won’t be generating a lot of wattage in terms of like I’m not burning as many calories as I should be all these things and

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Then I will get a second wind and I’ll do okay, but it sucks compared to

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Normal, so how are you a guy that doesn’t have big blood sugar swings?

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I don’t think I do and I think that I’m probably on

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Not a 24-hour cycle. I’m probably more like on a 36 to 48 hour cycle. Okay, because I have been

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I’ve definitely gone through you know, like times where I will just fast

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Without like I would I would do like coffee and that is something I’ve done for many years on and off

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I’ll just like I’ll just have coffee and nothing until dinner. Yeah, for instance, but not feel hungry throughout the day

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Which is the interesting part not feel like oh, yeah, I’m hitting you know, if I find

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as I struggled with my weight a lot as a child into adulthood and

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I find that if I’m distracted, I’m not near food and I have something else to think about then

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I don’t think about food. If I am bored and food is plentiful. I find myself eating a lot, right?

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Yeah, yeah

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So like on a day like today

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My studio here is on my third floor and it’s 85 degrees even with the air conditioning on. I don’t work up here

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I work downstairs near the kitchen

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There’s an abundance of food and I’m near it all the time

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So that’s a struggle, you know, like to have to like, “Nope, let’s stay away from there.” Luckily if it’s a busy day at work

00:24:48.400 —> 00:24:51.980
I’m focused on that. Otherwise, I find myself snacking a lot.

00:24:51.980 —> 00:24:53.320
Yeah, same here.

00:24:53.320 —> 00:24:58.840
But it’s interesting because I do have the days like you’re describing where I can go without food and not really think about it.

00:24:58.840 —> 00:25:03.520
Usually what happens if I’m really busy at work and I’m deep into something

00:25:03.520 —> 00:25:08.520
I just all of a sudden realize that I am irrationally angry and I have to go get some calories into my body.

00:25:08.960 —> 00:25:13.200
Mm-hmm, but I do have those rare days where I literally don’t care and then it’s eight o’clock at night

00:25:13.200 —> 00:25:18.220
I really haven’t eaten much and I’m totally okay with it, but I can’t do that on a regular basis

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And I really wish I could yeah, because what I have found is the less I eat before a run the better

00:25:25.020 —> 00:25:33.640
Performance I have the better shape. I mean I could see that I definitely there is definitely a point to like for me

00:25:34.640 —> 00:25:39.560
Getting just enough that I’m not gonna feel that blood sugar issue during the exercise, but no more

00:25:39.560 —> 00:25:44.880
Absolutely, right and that’s the thing is like I need generally like at least an hour

00:25:44.880 —> 00:25:47.560
after eating something light

00:25:47.560 —> 00:25:50.920
Mm-hmm and two hours after eating something like, you know

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Anything more than light and like I need a day if I had like a huge big breakfast. I’m not running

00:25:56.680 —> 00:26:01.720
How would you write a century where you’re gonna be stuffing your face on the bike once in a while?

00:26:01.720 —> 00:26:05.160
you just have no choice because you will run out of you will bonk if you don’t.

00:26:05.160 —> 00:26:11.400
If I was doing a century, I would be doing pieces at a time, you know, 100, 100, 200 calorie Clif

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bars or something as I go along. You’re not going to sit down and eat a meal, although some people

00:26:15.400 —> 00:26:19.800
go a little nuts at the break stops, but you don’t have. Right, exactly. But I have found that,

00:26:19.800 —> 00:26:24.680
I mean, if I eat a lot and this used to happen also always in the Aikido days, I would eat too

00:26:24.680 —> 00:26:30.040
much on our lunch breaks and I come back for the afternoon class and I could barely move, you know.

00:26:30.040 —> 00:26:33.780
Especially since people were throwing you around and your stomach was probably exactly

00:26:33.780 —> 00:26:41.500
Very upset so I want to ask you so I mentioned to you I want to I need to vent so

00:26:41.500 —> 00:26:43.500
Okay, this is this is my form

00:26:43.500 —> 00:26:49.840
Cellphone carriers. Yes, sir. It’s a race to the bottom when it comes to customer service

00:26:49.840 —> 00:26:52.660
Yeah, here’s what I say to cell phone carriers kiss my ass

00:26:52.660 —> 00:26:55.660
Kiss his ass kiss your ass. Yes

00:26:55.660 —> 00:26:58.480
bingo, so I

00:26:59.480 —> 00:27:00.720
last

00:27:00.720 —> 00:27:07.320
April in April I switched from a from Verizon to AT&T. Mm-hmm the V to the a and

00:27:07.320 —> 00:27:13.320
Of course AT&T managed to completely botch the handoff as they do

00:27:13.320 —> 00:27:19.000
They messed up the onboarding process totally and after multiple hour-long calls

00:27:19.000 —> 00:27:25.240
I had to end up going to a store spend an hour there to get everything all squared away. Mm-hmm

00:27:25.240 —> 00:27:32.020
Just this week. I got a letter in the mail from Verizon saying hey, we’ve got this great deal for Verizon FiOS customers now

00:27:32.020 —> 00:27:35.960
I am a Verizon FiOS customer and a very happy FiOS customer

00:27:35.960 —> 00:27:41.560
I’m not happy that I have to keep on calling them up every year or two and threaten to switch to get a better deal

00:27:41.560 —> 00:27:44.760
Unless they give you the price you were bloody well paying before

00:27:44.760 —> 00:27:49.380
Exactly, but other than that as far as the service goes it’s been really good. Sure

00:27:49.380 —> 00:27:56.800
So here’s a deal now where they’ll give me essentially the same price as what I pay for AT&T wireless right now

00:27:56.800 —> 00:28:00.480
instead of AT&T including HBO Max

00:28:00.480 —> 00:28:08.020
Verizon is including Disney Plus which I do pay for and Apple music which I do pay for and

00:28:08.020 —> 00:28:11.980
Sure, it’s Disney Plus premium, which includes ESPN and Hulu

00:28:11.980 —> 00:28:16.120
so it was nice getting HBO Max, but

00:28:16.800 —> 00:28:20.680
Until all of the the Time Warner new DC, you know

00:28:20.680 —> 00:28:28.380
Titles start coming out next year or so. It’s not something I use a lot of so I’m not really missing that but Disney Plus

00:28:28.380 —> 00:28:31.320
I was just watching Loki before this episode

00:28:31.320 —> 00:28:38.840
I’m big fan of all the Marvel stuff Apple music is what I use religiously because I want something I can stream to my Apple watch

00:28:38.840 —> 00:28:41.440
Sure, so this sounds like a good deal

00:28:41.440 —> 00:28:45.520
While I was on the phone with the woman yesterday

00:28:46.360 —> 00:28:50.080
doing the transfer explaining to her that I

00:28:50.080 —> 00:28:52.600
want to

00:28:52.600 —> 00:28:55.200
you know, I need to port my number over and

00:28:55.200 —> 00:29:00.880
I and she was going to she was taking my address down. She was verifying my address

00:29:00.880 —> 00:29:06.480
To which they were going to send the new SIM card to use in my phone

00:29:06.480 —> 00:29:14.960
Which I was talking to her on wait, which carrier is this? I was speaking to Verizon coming from AT&T. I

00:29:16.120 —> 00:29:19.120
Could be mistaken, but Verizon doesn’t need a SIM.

00:29:19.120 —> 00:29:21.120
Sometimes they do. In this case it does.

00:29:21.120 —> 00:29:28.120
And in this case, while I was talking with them, she completed the port of the number.

00:29:28.120 —> 00:29:29.120
And the call dropped.

00:29:29.120 —> 00:29:31.120
Oh no.

00:29:31.120 —> 00:29:37.120
Because AT&T immediately accepted the port and I lost cell phone servers yesterday.

00:29:37.120 —> 00:29:42.120
And I had an after-hours upgrade scheduled for work.

00:29:42.120 —> 00:29:46.440
and my girlfriend was getting her new Tesla and I had

00:29:46.440 —> 00:29:51.760
Insisted on not just offered I insisted on driving her to the dealership to pick it up

00:29:51.760 —> 00:29:54.880
so I was going to be out of Wi-Fi range and

00:29:54.880 —> 00:30:01.520
That’s when Verizon decided to do this now. I’m like, it’s a simple order of operations

00:30:01.520 —> 00:30:04.040
Get the person the cell phone

00:30:04.040 —> 00:30:11.180
Port the number right get the person the sim port the number and this rocket scientist that I was talking to

00:30:11.760 —> 00:30:15.360
ported my number while I was on the phone with her.

00:30:15.360 —> 00:30:17.760
Seems like a bad idea.

00:30:17.760 —> 00:30:23.360
So the other reason though that I really moved to Verizon was that they were offering me

00:30:23.360 —> 00:30:28.760
$700 trade-in for this one and a half year old iPhone 11 that I have.

00:30:28.760 —> 00:30:30.560
That’s pretty good I gotta say.

00:30:30.560 —> 00:30:35.760
But I found out this yesterday, guess what? I found out. And a $300 rebate on top of that.

00:30:35.760 —> 00:30:37.760
Are you serious?

00:30:37.760 —> 00:30:38.480
Yeah.

00:30:38.480 —> 00:30:40.560
So are they paying you to have a phone?

00:30:40.560 —> 00:30:44.080
No, I needed to pay full taxes

00:30:44.080 —> 00:30:49.080
and taxes on a $1,099 phone are like a hundred bucks.

00:30:49.080 —> 00:30:50.400
Okay.

00:30:50.400 —> 00:30:52.620
And I needed to pay the remaining a hundred dollars.

00:30:52.620 —> 00:30:54.560
So I ended up paying like 150 bucks

00:30:54.560 —> 00:30:57.800
to get an iPhone 12 Pro Max.

00:30:57.800 —> 00:30:59.180
That is beautiful.

00:30:59.180 —> 00:31:01.320
And here’s the funny part.

00:31:01.320 —> 00:31:03.320
That Pro Max should be here

00:31:03.320 —> 00:31:05.360
before the stupid replacement SIM card

00:31:05.360 —> 00:31:06.680
that they mailed me, Will.

00:31:06.680 —> 00:31:08.640
I think what I might’ve been thinking about the SIM card

00:31:08.640 —> 00:31:11.260
was that I don’t remember what it was.

00:31:11.260 —> 00:31:12.820
There was something about when we switched

00:31:12.820 —> 00:31:16.800
from AT&T to Verizon, AT&T was all hung up on the SIM card

00:31:16.800 —> 00:31:19.000
and it might’ve been locked to AT&T, I don’t remember.

00:31:19.000 —> 00:31:20.560
But when we went to Verizon, it was like,

00:31:20.560 —> 00:31:22.240
whatever, it was totally unlocked.

00:31:22.240 —> 00:31:23.280
You could put any SIM in there.

00:31:23.280 —> 00:31:25.320
I think that might’ve been the difference.

00:31:25.320 —> 00:31:28.160
Right, so this phone was one

00:31:28.160 —> 00:31:31.180
that I got from Verizon in 2019.

00:31:31.180 —> 00:31:34.840
So it’s gone from Verizon to AT&T.

00:31:34.840 —> 00:31:36.520
So they’re like, “Oh, are we sure it’s compatible?“

00:31:36.520 —> 00:31:37.980
I’m like, “You guys sent it to me,

00:31:37.980 —> 00:31:39.720
So I’m pretty sure it’s compatible.

00:31:39.720 —> 00:31:40.560
Right.

00:31:40.560 —> 00:31:42.540
Yeah, actually it was the phone that I had before

00:31:42.540 —> 00:31:43.960
that when we did the switchover,

00:31:43.960 —> 00:31:45.300
this phone’s always been Verizon.

00:31:45.300 —> 00:31:46.840
But yeah, here’s the thing.

00:31:46.840 —> 00:31:49.200
Like I was gonna go back to AT&T at one point

00:31:49.200 —> 00:31:52.400
and we’re in the Apple store,

00:31:52.400 —> 00:31:53.880
they do the verification, right?

00:31:53.880 —> 00:31:56.260
They have to call AT&T or whoever.

00:31:56.260 —> 00:31:58.100
And AT&T asks you a bunch of questions

00:31:58.100 —> 00:31:59.240
and they kept asking me,

00:31:59.240 —> 00:32:01.020
”When did you live on such and such a street?“

00:32:01.020 —> 00:32:03.940
And I couldn’t understand what they were saying.

00:32:03.940 —> 00:32:05.580
I’m like, “I never lived on that street.”

00:32:05.580 —> 00:32:07.320
And they’re like, “Okay, well, you’re declined.”

00:32:07.320 —> 00:32:10.760
And I’m like, I don’t know what you were saying.

00:32:10.760 —> 00:32:13.660
Whatever you were saying is not a street that I lived on.

00:32:13.660 —> 00:32:16.120
The funny part too, AT&T,

00:32:16.120 —> 00:32:18.480
one of the reasons I needed to stand there for an hour

00:32:18.480 —> 00:32:22.320
in the store was they wanted to do a credit check on me.

00:32:22.320 —> 00:32:25.280
Even though I’m bringing my own phone.

00:32:25.280 —> 00:32:26.560
Yes, yes, yes.

00:32:26.560 —> 00:32:29.640
And I’m prepaying it, they wanted a credit check.

00:32:29.640 —> 00:32:33.380
So I had to call all three credit reporting agencies

00:32:33.380 —> 00:32:35.120
to unfreeze my credit.

00:32:35.120 —> 00:32:35.960
Right.

00:32:35.960 —> 00:32:38.400
while I’m on the phone, you know, while I’m standing in the store.

00:32:38.400 —> 00:32:40.440
Verizon, they’re like, “No, you’re good.”

00:32:40.440 —> 00:32:41.760
Yeah, exactly, right.

00:32:41.760 —> 00:32:45.160
The thing is, I had been an AT&T customer not that long ago,

00:32:45.160 —> 00:32:47.280
and so I’m like, “Guys, check your records.

00:32:47.280 —> 00:32:49.600
You will see that I paid for years.

00:32:49.600 —> 00:32:52.080
I didn’t run away. I didn’t stiff you on any bills.”

00:32:52.080 —> 00:32:53.360
No, we can’t do that.

00:32:53.360 —> 00:32:56.560
Right. It’s almost like their computers

00:32:56.560 —> 00:32:58.880
can’t go back in time and look at previous records.

00:32:58.880 —> 00:33:00.040
They can’t.

00:33:00.040 —> 00:33:03.280
OK. Well, I guess you and I know nothing about computers then.

00:33:03.280 —> 00:33:05.000
Mm-mm. We don’t.

00:33:05.000 —> 00:33:05.760
That’s true.

00:33:05.760 —> 00:33:09.440
So I’m still waiting. I have to check my email.

00:33:09.440 —> 00:33:11.240
But the other part was…

00:33:11.240 —> 00:33:13.100
So you’re still without phone?

00:33:13.100 —> 00:33:14.440
I am without phone.

00:33:14.440 —> 00:33:18.100
I am without phone, but fortunately I have iMessage,

00:33:18.100 —> 00:33:20.360
so most people can text me.

00:33:20.360 —> 00:33:23.600
I also use RingCentral for my consultancy,

00:33:23.600 —> 00:33:27.020
so I can make and receive phone calls at the work numbers.

00:33:27.020 —> 00:33:27.960
Okay, okay.

00:33:27.960 —> 00:33:31.220
But so much stuff is set up to use my cell phone number.

00:33:31.220 —> 00:33:32.060
Yeah.

00:33:32.060 —> 00:33:34.520
I tried to log into the Sophos partner portal,

00:33:34.520 —> 00:33:37.260
And of course it’s set to set up SMS.

00:33:37.260 —> 00:33:39.980
Yeah, right now some package somewhere on a UPS truck

00:33:39.980 —> 00:33:41.920
is getting authorization codes.

00:33:41.920 —> 00:33:44.380
Right, exactly, exactly.

00:33:44.380 —> 00:33:46.020
So I can’t find anything.

00:33:46.020 —> 00:33:50.480
And oh, my Nest thermostat, for whatever reason today,

00:33:50.480 —> 00:33:53.420
decided it was time for me to re-authenticate

00:33:53.420 —> 00:33:55.860
and that I had set up two-factor authentication

00:33:55.860 —> 00:33:57.060
using my cell phone.

00:33:57.060 —> 00:33:58.360
OMG.

00:33:58.360 —> 00:34:00.080
So that’s annoying.

00:34:00.080 —> 00:34:02.920
The other part is like my phone hasn’t shipped yet.

00:34:02.920 —> 00:34:05.240
So it might actually be a couple days.

00:34:05.240 —> 00:34:06.560
Wait a minute.

00:34:06.560 —> 00:34:08.520
Not only did she do this in the wrong order,

00:34:08.520 —> 00:34:11.160
but now they are just waddling around twiddling their thumbs

00:34:11.160 —> 00:34:13.480
and not shipping you a phone to correct the problem.

00:34:13.480 —> 00:34:14.560
Uh-huh.

00:34:14.560 —> 00:34:15.400
Wow.

00:34:15.400 —> 00:34:17.440
So what I probably will end up doing

00:34:17.440 —> 00:34:19.720
is the same thing I did last time in 2019

00:34:19.720 —> 00:34:22.800
after I had a horrific onboarding experience.

00:34:22.800 —> 00:34:26.720
I’m going to call them and complain multiple times

00:34:26.720 —> 00:34:28.680
and see if I can get better credits.

00:34:28.680 —> 00:34:30.000
Right, but here’s what you’re gonna hear

00:34:30.000 —> 00:34:30.840
on the other side of the line.

00:34:30.840 —> 00:34:32.520
Yes, yes, I understand.

00:34:32.520 —> 00:34:35.840
But here’s the thing. I don’t care.

00:34:35.840 —> 00:34:42.480
So I got, I got, I ended up getting like 500 bucks or so of credits and discounts last time.

00:34:42.480 —> 00:34:43.380
Yeah.

00:34:43.380 —> 00:34:43.880
Yeah.

00:34:43.880 —> 00:34:47.080
And that’s the other thing. Why did I leave in the first place from AT&T?

00:34:47.080 —> 00:34:48.680
Peter, why did you leave in the first place?

00:34:48.680 —> 00:34:56.320
Because the Verizon plan I was on was 10 gigabytes per month shared by me and my father’s cell phone and my Apple Watch.

00:34:56.320 —> 00:34:57.220
Mm-hmm.

00:34:57.220 —> 00:35:01.820
For the same price, AT&T gave me 100 gigabytes of LTE data.

00:35:02.020 —> 00:35:07.300
and 30 gigs of hotspot. Now, here’s the funny part. Coming back to Verizon, they’re giving me

00:35:07.300 —> 00:35:13.140
75 gigs of data and 30 gigs of hotspot. But see, that’s the problem with all of these carriers,

00:35:13.140 —> 00:35:19.940
whether it be land, internet, whether it be cellular, whatever. They always treat the

00:35:19.940 —> 00:35:26.660
incoming people so well and they just stiff the crap out of the existing people. Which is why

00:35:26.660 —> 00:35:31.460
every now and then it makes sense to be an outgoing/incoming person. That’s right, even

00:35:31.460 —> 00:35:32.500
even though it sucks.

00:35:32.500 —> 00:35:33.820
It shouldn’t be that way.

00:35:33.820 —> 00:35:34.860
I would think as a business,

00:35:34.860 —> 00:35:36.620
what you would want is a loyal customer

00:35:36.620 —> 00:35:38.660
just in case they decide not to come back.

00:35:38.660 —> 00:35:39.700
Yep.

00:35:39.700 —> 00:35:41.020
And that’s one of the things.

00:35:41.020 —> 00:35:43.860
It costs a lot less to retain a customer

00:35:43.860 —> 00:35:45.540
than it does to get a new one.

00:35:45.540 —> 00:35:46.380
It does.

00:35:46.380 —> 00:35:48.380
And here they are though, they’re underscoring this.

00:35:48.380 —> 00:35:51.860
They’re giving us super colossal benefits and deals

00:35:51.860 —> 00:35:54.220
all the time to win us or to win us back.

00:35:54.220 —> 00:35:56.880
I’m like, yeah, if you just hadn’t sucked

00:35:56.880 —> 00:35:57.740
in the first place,

00:35:57.740 —> 00:35:59.820
you wouldn’t have to do any winning me back.

00:35:59.820 —> 00:36:01.140
I’d still be here.

00:36:01.140 —> 00:36:05.860
could make more money on you over time if they just gave you a little bit better deal

00:36:05.860 —> 00:36:08.500
rather than having to woo you back.

00:36:08.500 —> 00:36:09.500
Just a little.

00:36:09.500 —> 00:36:15.020
So on that note, I am curious though, you did mention to me that you were for the first

00:36:15.020 —> 00:36:22.020
time in a long time really excited about the Apple Worldwide Developer.

00:36:22.020 —> 00:36:23.500
Excuse me.

00:36:23.500 —> 00:36:24.500
Burp.

00:36:24.500 —> 00:36:26.060
When you drink beer sometimes you burp.

00:36:26.060 —> 00:36:28.780
No, I get excited about WWDC but…

00:36:28.780 —> 00:36:30.860
But you said you were really excited about stuff.

00:36:30.860 —> 00:36:32.340
So I have two questions.

00:36:32.340 —> 00:36:34.940
Okay, I’ll answer them both to the best of my ability.

00:36:34.940 —> 00:36:36.620
And one of them you’re like, this is boring,

00:36:36.620 —> 00:36:37.540
I don’t wanna talk about it.

00:36:37.540 —> 00:36:40.820
But unrelated to this directly to WWDC though,

00:36:40.820 —> 00:36:43.660
what do you think the next iPhone will be called?

00:36:43.660 —> 00:36:45.660
Because they’re not gonna do a 13.

00:36:45.660 —> 00:36:46.760
Oh, I don’t know.

00:36:46.760 —> 00:36:48.340
There won’t be an iPhone 13.

00:36:48.340 —> 00:36:49.920
I don’t know, maybe they will.

00:36:49.920 —> 00:36:50.760
I don’t think they will.

00:36:50.760 —> 00:36:52.660
I don’t know, maybe they’ll just call it iPhone.

00:36:52.660 —> 00:36:53.820
Maybe I don’t know.

00:36:53.820 —> 00:36:55.080
(gasps)

00:36:55.080 —> 00:36:57.100
Maybe that’s it, they dropped numbers altogether.

00:36:57.100 —> 00:36:59.200
That’s just iPhone.

00:36:59.200 —> 00:37:01.160
I mean, that’s what they do with the Mac.

00:37:01.160 —> 00:37:02.760
And they did that with the iPad too.

00:37:02.760 —> 00:37:04.280
Right, they do that with the iPad.

00:37:04.280 —> 00:37:07.720
The only designation on the iPad is iPad Pro, iPad Air,

00:37:07.720 —> 00:37:08.940
iPad, but yeah. Yeah, maybe it’ll just

00:37:08.940 —> 00:37:10.200
be iPhone.

00:37:10.200 —> 00:37:12.000
Okay, that’s my first question.

00:37:12.000 —> 00:37:14.040
Yeah, but people have been predicting that

00:37:14.040 —> 00:37:15.720
for a long time and it hasn’t happened, so I don’t know.

00:37:15.720 —> 00:37:17.560
I don’t know the answer to that question.

00:37:17.560 —> 00:37:19.520
’Cause they did skip the nine.

00:37:19.520 —> 00:37:21.400
Why was there no iPhone 9?

00:37:21.400 —> 00:37:26.200
Because the eight was simultaneous with the iPhone 10.

00:37:26.200 —> 00:37:27.040
Yeah.

00:37:27.040 —> 00:37:28.040
It was kinda weird.

00:37:28.040 —> 00:37:29.520
I was.

00:37:29.520 —> 00:37:33.280
And after that, they completely dumped the,

00:37:33.280 —> 00:37:34.780
well, I don’t know, man.

00:37:34.780 —> 00:37:35.620
Yeah.

00:37:35.620 —> 00:37:39.440
There’s no telling what’s going on in the mind of Tim Apple.

00:37:39.440 —> 00:37:40.820
Well, let’s just put it this way.

00:37:40.820 —> 00:37:44.320
Apple’s been terrible with naming for a long time.

00:37:44.320 —> 00:37:47.060
Like the Apple XS Max, that’s what I have.

00:37:47.060 —> 00:37:49.440
They’re just done with names.

00:37:49.440 —> 00:37:50.480
I mean, come on.

00:37:50.480 —> 00:37:51.540
And then two.

00:37:51.540 —> 00:37:54.000
And they should have known that no one would think

00:37:54.000 —> 00:37:55.140
that it was a XS Max.

00:37:55.140 —> 00:37:56.400
Everyone would say X.

00:37:56.400 —> 00:37:59.720
So to most people it’s an XS Max.

00:37:59.720 —> 00:38:02.940
Which I love because again, when I was a kid growing up,

00:38:02.940 —> 00:38:05.440
my favorite rock band was in XS.

00:38:05.440 —> 00:38:08.680
So when I see the 10 XS, you know, I was like,

00:38:08.680 —> 00:38:09.940
that’s awesome, I love it.

00:38:09.940 —> 00:38:11.580
It’s not like they didn’t know that was gonna happen

00:38:11.580 —> 00:38:13.840
because for years people have been calling

00:38:13.840 —> 00:38:16.900
what is now macOS that was previously macOS 10.

00:38:16.900 —> 00:38:18.220
OS X. OS X.

00:38:18.220 —> 00:38:19.800
People have been calling it Mac.

00:38:19.800 —> 00:38:21.920
Yeah, people have been calling it OS X, that’s right.

00:38:21.920 —> 00:38:22.760
Yep.

00:38:22.760 —> 00:38:23.960
So they knew that was gonna happen.

00:38:23.960 —> 00:38:25.960
They absolutely knew that was gonna happen.

00:38:25.960 —> 00:38:30.960
But within their super slick immaculate white walls

00:38:30.960 —> 00:38:36.120
in Cupertino, no one ever referred to it as OSX

00:38:36.120 —> 00:38:38.520
and therefore they did not know that was gonna happen.

00:38:38.520 —> 00:38:40.200
No, but speaking of white walls,

00:38:40.200 —> 00:38:43.000
I hate to put too much stock in my own criminology,

00:38:43.000 —> 00:38:46.240
but I do believe that Jony Ive leaving Apple

00:38:46.240 —> 00:38:47.760
was not a bad thing for Apple.

00:38:47.760 —> 00:38:50.000
I definitely have come to that conclusion.

00:38:50.000 —> 00:38:53.120
Post Jony Ive products are getting better again, I think.

00:38:53.120 —> 00:38:55.120
I tend to agree.

00:38:55.120 —> 00:39:01.120
Would you say that Jony Ive leaving Apple offsets Steve Jobs leaving Apple?

00:39:01.120 —> 00:39:04.640
It’s hard to say because I think Tim Cook started off as a really good CEO.

00:39:04.640 —> 00:39:10.240
And he still is in some ways, but I feel like the further we get in time from the death of Steve

00:39:10.240 —> 00:39:14.960
Jobs… Now, Steve Jobs wasn’t perfect. Look, I’ve been following this stuff since the 70s.

00:39:14.960 —> 00:39:21.280
I’m not one of the people that has this mythological idea about Steve Jobs, but

00:39:21.280 —> 00:39:23.200
I mean, he was an athlete, let’s just be honest.

00:39:23.200 —> 00:39:28.160
Sure, just like Bikram. Well, maybe not a sexual offender.

00:39:28.160 —> 00:39:31.520
Yeah, as far as we know, not that. But, nonetheless.

00:39:31.520 —> 00:39:34.880
Right, he did try to deny his own daughter.

00:39:34.880 —> 00:39:37.040
There’s the mark of a truly great man.

00:39:37.040 —> 00:39:41.360
But the further we get from that event, I feel like Tim Cook, and I think the bigger

00:39:41.360 —> 00:39:47.680
and richer Apple gets, I don’t like the way they portray their every business decision in such

00:39:47.680 —> 00:39:52.980
self-righteous terms like the way they they refuse to admit that

00:39:52.980 —> 00:39:56.940
their platform wouldn’t be nearly as valuable without developers

00:39:56.940 —> 00:40:00.040
and that they don’t you know, they justify all these little business expenses

00:40:00.040 —> 00:40:04.080
that are really nothing more than them bleeding developers dry for money

00:40:04.080 —> 00:40:06.340
and really bad optics.

00:40:06.340 —> 00:40:09.380
And I think Tim Cook is a lot worse about that kind of stuff than Steve Jobs was.

00:40:09.380 —> 00:40:11.080
And I think it’s getting worse over time.

00:40:11.080 —> 00:40:15.980
And I don’t know if it’s because Tim Cook is getting distance between himself

00:40:15.980 —> 00:40:20.440
than what he used to think, or if it’s just because Apple’s becoming a gigantic company

00:40:20.440 —> 00:40:24.600
and they have to keep growing because, you know, they’re beholden to Wall Street, just

00:40:24.600 —> 00:40:29.520
like all American companies. And Apple’s not a company that lives quarter by quarter, but

00:40:29.520 —> 00:40:34.620
I feel like they are definitely becoming a company that has to keep impressing Wall Street

00:40:34.620 —> 00:40:36.060
more than they used to care about.

00:40:36.060 —> 00:40:42.560
You know, I think what turned everything around, if at the next WWDC, Phil Schiller got up

00:40:42.560 —> 00:40:47.440
on stage and started yelling “developers developers developers developers!“

00:40:47.440 —> 00:40:50.880
Yeah. Does he have to sweat through a shirt too?

00:40:50.880 —> 00:40:51.440
Hell yeah!

00:40:51.440 —> 00:40:58.400
Okay. I wonder if there’s a Steve Ballmer sweat kit? Like you can just

00:40:58.400 —> 00:41:03.200
you can just drink something and it will just make your pores ooze sweat or maybe

00:41:03.200 —> 00:41:05.040
you just spray something on yourself.

00:41:05.040 —> 00:41:11.040
I have a friend who sweats like that whenever he eats hot spicy foods.

00:41:11.680 —> 00:41:15.880
Hmm. Well, I do sweat when I hot spicy food sometimes, but it’s usually the head.

00:41:15.880 —> 00:41:17.380
It’s usually like my face or something.

00:41:17.380 —> 00:41:23.620
So what I’m talking about is I had just done a 10K run and gotten in

00:41:23.620 —> 00:41:29.020
and my friend had shown up and I had not showered or anything.

00:41:29.020 —> 00:41:32.520
And I was, you know, like lightly sweating.

00:41:32.520 —> 00:41:35.460
I was not gross. I was not even I need a shower.

00:41:35.460 —> 00:41:39.980
I’m blessed by one of those things is like I do not reek when I sweat.

00:41:40.580 —> 00:41:45.620
Right. Now, if I if I don’t like shower for eight hours after I work out, that’s different.

00:41:45.620 —> 00:41:48.660
But like if I just finish a workout, I don’t stick.

00:41:48.660 —> 00:41:53.460
See, I think I sweat a lot when I exercise beyond a certain point.

00:41:53.460 —> 00:41:55.860
Right. Well, like if I just do yoga, I don’t.

00:41:55.860 —> 00:41:59.780
Yeah. Well, it depends on the type of exercise. But like I said, I just done a 10K.

00:41:59.780 —> 00:42:04.020
So. Right. Yeah. I would definitely need a shower. And some people might think I stink.

00:42:04.020 —> 00:42:06.580
I personally think I smell nice and minty fresh.

00:42:06.580 —> 00:42:12.420
I have actually been told by external parties, not myself, that I don’t stink after I sweat, so it’s not just me.

00:42:12.420 —> 00:42:15.060
Do they describe you as minty?

00:42:15.060 —> 00:42:25.300
I have been told, “Damn, you smell good,” and I was said, “You know, you are, you’re right. You don’t stink after you work out. You’re not a smelly guy.”

00:42:25.300 —> 00:42:29.060
So those are the, those are comments that I’ve gotten after a workout.

00:42:29.060 —> 00:42:34.420
Do people get body parts uncomfortably close to your legs after your run?

00:42:34.420 —> 00:42:42.100
She’s cute. I wouldn’t stop her. But anyway, so my friend came over and we had chicken wings and I made hot wings using various hot

00:42:42.100 —> 00:42:46.100
sauces and after a couple of these my friend was

00:42:46.100 —> 00:42:52.160
Drenched he had like the drenched V of sweat in the t-shirt thing going on

00:42:52.160 —> 00:42:57.260
Oh my god, and I took pictures of the two of us side by side and I was like one of us just ran a 10k

00:42:57.260 —> 00:42:59.260
Can you tell which?

00:43:00.980 —> 00:43:02.820
It was pretty hilarious.

00:43:02.820 —> 00:43:05.220
I do seem to recall an iPhone video

00:43:05.220 —> 00:43:06.980
of you eating some hot wings one day though,

00:43:06.980 —> 00:43:08.460
where you were getting pretty sweaty.

00:43:08.460 —> 00:43:11.380
Oh, that was the one where I was eating,

00:43:11.380 —> 00:43:14.540
that was the Salt Hill Pub wings challenge

00:43:14.540 —> 00:43:15.380
up in Hanover, New Hampshire.

00:43:15.380 —> 00:43:16.300
It was a challenge, yeah.

00:43:16.300 —> 00:43:18.300
Yes, and I remember it ‘cause I said,

00:43:18.300 —> 00:43:19.300
it’s got a good flavor,

00:43:19.300 —> 00:43:21.460
it’s too bad I can’t take my time to enjoy it.

00:43:21.460 —> 00:43:24.940
And you said you liked how I was intimidating the wing

00:43:24.940 —> 00:43:27.620
by telling it that it tasted good.

00:43:27.620 —> 00:43:31.620
I wanted to take my time to savor it.

00:43:31.620 —> 00:43:34.500
I play mind games with the food, Peter.

00:43:34.500 —> 00:43:35.900
You gotta play mind games with the food.

00:43:35.900 —> 00:43:44.660
So on that note, I have purchased all 10 of The Hot Ones season 15 hot sauces.

00:43:44.660 —> 00:43:47.980
Okay, I didn’t know that hot sauces came in seasons.

00:43:47.980 —> 00:43:51.540
The Hot Ones is a series.

00:43:51.540 —> 00:43:54.020
They publish it on YouTube, among other places.

00:43:54.020 —> 00:43:57.420
So instead of hot sauce of the month, club year, and a hot sauce of the year club?

00:43:57.420 —> 00:44:03.480
It’s they do seasons. I don’t know that that’s that it’s annual. Mm-hmm, but they do interviews. It’s a good show

00:44:03.480 —> 00:44:08.920
They interview you can pick like some famous person that you like and they will you know

00:44:08.920 —> 00:44:14.960
Probably have an interview by this guy Sean Evans on the hot ones and it’s they eat ten

00:44:14.960 —> 00:44:18.940
spicy hot one hot wings in increment, you know in

00:44:18.940 —> 00:44:23.840
Exponentially increasing level of hotness and they ask interviews

00:44:24.240 —> 00:44:27.700
So they have like off the top of my head. He’s interviewed

00:44:27.700 —> 00:44:29.980
Scarlett Johansson

00:44:29.980 —> 00:44:32.940
Neil degrasse Tyson Shaquille O’Neal

00:44:32.940 —> 00:44:39.720
Idris Alba. Oh my god big people. Yeah. Yeah, these are not, you know, like lots of big people so

00:44:39.720 —> 00:44:42.640
It’s pretty hilarious

00:44:42.640 —> 00:44:48.300
And so I broke down and I just ordered season 10 like all the hot sauces and I have them downstairs

00:44:48.300 —> 00:44:53.660
In my kitchen on display just waiting for my next wing night

00:44:53.660 —> 00:44:58.340
where I will be going through and eating all 10 of the wings in a row in

00:44:58.340 —> 00:45:04.820
escalating order of hot spiciness. I gotta say I didn’t even know about that

00:45:04.820 —> 00:45:09.700
but that is a much better podcast than what we’re doing here because anyone can

00:45:09.700 —> 00:45:15.460
drink beer and not flame out well not everyone but well maybe next maybe we

00:45:15.460 —> 00:45:19.420
should have friends with beer and a wing next time you know maybe yeah or maybe

00:45:19.420 —> 00:45:23.420
we should set something on fire and eat it that sounds even better on that

00:45:23.420 —> 00:45:27.820
On that note, I think this is a good point, a good time for us to wrap up this show.

00:45:27.820 —> 00:45:28.320
What do you think?

00:45:28.320 —> 00:45:29.320
I think so too.

00:45:29.320 —> 00:45:33.820
So if folks want to get a hold of us, I believe there’s a couple of places.

00:45:33.820 —> 00:45:38.720
I think the easiest people to remember is friendswithbeer.com.

00:45:38.720 —> 00:45:40.620
Yeah, and I swear to God I came up.

00:45:40.620 —> 00:45:42.520
Did I not make a Twitter account for this?

00:45:42.520 —> 00:45:43.920
Uh, you did.

00:45:43.920 —> 00:45:45.520
I don’t remember what it is though.

00:45:45.520 —> 00:45:46.020
But if you see…

00:45:46.020 —> 00:45:49.620
Isn’t it beer.tweetback.us, I think?

00:45:49.620 —> 00:45:51.020
I have no idea.

00:45:51.020 —> 00:45:59.480
But if you go to friendswithbeer.com, you will find us and you will find a link to our Twitter account, which is friendswbeerpod.

00:45:59.480 —> 00:46:01.460
Friends with beer pod.

00:46:01.460 —> 00:46:04.960
And I also registered another domain, but however it’s going to make me sign.

00:46:04.960 —> 00:46:08.480
You did. You did like friendswith.beer or something like that.

00:46:08.480 —> 00:46:11.060
But I don’t think people will necessarily remember that.

00:46:11.060 —> 00:46:15.880
But they will remember friendswithbeer.com because that’s easy for them to remember.

00:46:15.880 —> 00:46:17.920
You’re like Vic, you hate the clever ones.

00:46:17.920 —> 00:46:19.280
No, I like the clever ones.

00:46:19.440 —> 00:46:27.020
But I also know that people won’t remember friendswith.beer, which, by the way, is the address that you register.

00:46:27.020 —> 00:46:32.820
Okay. All right. Well, let me look and let me see what our Twitter one is, because it should be in my hover as well.

00:46:32.820 —> 00:46:35.120
I said it’s friendswbeerpod.

00:46:35.120 —> 00:46:38.820
No, no, no. I registered…

00:46:38.820 —> 00:46:45.520
So I have tweetback.me, tweetback.us, and I think I pointed beer.tweetback.us to…

00:46:45.520 —> 00:46:51.120
Yeah, beer.tweetback.us will take you to twitter.com/friendswbeerpod.

00:46:51.120 —> 00:46:54.400
So if it’s easier to remember beer.tweetback…

00:46:54.400 —> 00:46:55.240
Yeah, I’m sure.

00:46:55.240 —> 00:46:56.080
… you’re tweeting back at us.

00:46:56.080 —> 00:46:57.760
.us/…

00:46:57.760 —> 00:46:59.120
No, tweetback at us.

00:46:59.120 —> 00:47:01.040
Tweetback at us.

00:47:01.040 —> 00:47:03.120
See, on BubbleSort we have this whole tweetback thing.

00:47:03.120 —> 00:47:04.040
I don’t know how to start it.

00:47:04.040 —> 00:47:06.000
Friendswithbeer.com.

00:47:06.000 —> 00:47:08.320
Friendswithbeer.com will get you there eventually.

00:47:08.320 —> 00:47:09.200
Friendswithbeer.com.

00:47:09.200 —> 00:47:09.520
Yeah.

00:47:09.520 —> 00:47:10.880
So, uh…

00:47:10.880 —> 00:47:11.440
Yeah.

00:47:11.440 —> 00:47:11.880
So, Friends with Beer.com.

00:47:11.880 —> 00:47:14.160
Oh, anyway, as far as we can be found…

00:47:14.160 —> 00:47:16.160
As far as you’re concerned, I’m everywhere.

00:47:16.160 —> 00:47:17.660
Right? We’re everywhere.

00:47:17.660 —> 00:47:21.820
But I think if they start at friendswithbeer.com, they’ll find us.

00:47:21.820 —> 00:47:22.360
Thanks, so too.

00:47:22.360 —> 00:47:30.400
Well, Peter Nikolaidis, I want people to understand that it’s not always gonna be yoga, AT&T, and it is always gonna be beer.

00:47:30.400 —> 00:47:33.400
But we talk about a lot of things. We like technology.

00:47:33.400 —> 00:47:33.720
We do.

00:47:33.720 —> 00:47:36.460
We like… You like running. I like biking.

00:47:36.460 —> 00:47:37.820
I like biking too.

00:47:37.820 —> 00:47:41.800
No, no. Yeah, you do. You’re a very avid mountain biker, especially.

00:47:41.800 —> 00:47:43.600
I was mountain biking Killington this weekend.

00:47:43.600 —> 00:47:46.000
That’s right. Never kill.

00:47:46.000 —> 00:47:48.960
You should never kill your bike. No, just did a ton of killing.

00:47:48.960 —> 00:47:52.000
I start actually I’m wondering now that I’m doing yoga,

00:47:52.000 —> 00:47:54.840
I bet I could do running again with much better results on my knees.

00:47:54.840 —> 00:47:58.640
That sounds like a challenge.

00:47:58.640 —> 00:48:00.760
I accept. Nope, I’m not going to.

00:48:00.760 —> 00:48:02.360
I’m still going to bike.

00:48:02.360 —> 00:48:04.360
All right. Well, this is great.

00:48:04.360 —> 00:48:06.240
And this will hopefully be episode one.

00:48:06.240 —> 00:48:08.720
I’m going to start editing this today.

00:48:08.720 —> 00:48:09.760
Today, my friend.

00:48:09.760 —> 00:48:12.800
On that note, I think it’s time to push the big red button.

00:48:12.800 —> 00:48:14.300
Inconceivable!