Episode 18 – The Richest Richard

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Friends with Brews!

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Hello Peter.

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What’s happening?

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I have the memo.

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Peter has the memo.

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So what were we talking about a minute ago, Peter?

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Oh, your running profile picture.

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My running profile picture, indeed.

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But we have more important things than that.

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We do.

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Like getting me onto my freaking AirPods for my audio.

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No, I was talking about Adam.

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Oh.

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Adam Bell is here.

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He’s a friend with a brew friend with a brew and all you can think about is your ears and your earpods. I

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Brewed coffee today. Yay. I brewed coffee I didn’t do a fancy French press

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Yeah, I did a not fancy Aero press

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I’ve got too much coffee that I should not drink it

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You know two o’clock in the after is plenty of time before I go to bed

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Absolutely. The rule is not after two o’clock. So just pound whatever you’ve got right now.

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Pound it. You know, you and your rules. I will lie in bed in the evening reading drinking a coffee and then I will go right to sleep.

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I don’t. It’s different for everybody.

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People are different. No, they’re not.

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So I do have a French press. People are not different? Okay, people are not different. You heard it here, folks. Scott says people are not different.

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We’re all the same. We’re all one person.

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I do have a French press

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Origination story for me anyway an origin story. Oh, yeah, so I

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went to so before I get to the actual story, so I went on my honeymoon to Jamaica and

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Did your wife go with you? Yes, she did matter of fact

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She joined me and while we were in Jamaica we had some of the best coffee that we ever had

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I mean we weren’t big coffee drinkers at the time and found out it was Blue Mountain

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Which is among the best coffee in the world. So obviously it was good

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So we went to so fast forward another

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bunch of years and we went to Belize and they brought out a French press and they brought like a

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family stuff is a great big one and

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She brought it set it on the table and I said

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What do we do with this I mean

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See you just press it and then you like can you show me you know?

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Cuz I’m so she showed me and we poured it and it was the bet

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You know, this was way better than the Blue Mountain coffee that I’d had years prior. I was like, this is really good

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What type of coffee is this and she said well, it’s just it’s just a house brand and I didn’t believe them because

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Thinking back to Jamaica Blue Mountain is a house brand in Jamaica. So I’m like, okay, what’s the Belizean equivalent to this?

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awesome coffee that I’m drinking and she said well it’s just a you know bought it

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at the store so can you bring me the can I want to see this and it was a big can

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as if it were like Folgers you know so it was just regular house coffee but the

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preparation made such a big difference in it that was like I must French press

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from here on out. Now do you have a sense for how fresh that coffee was? No

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No clue. I mean.

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Like, so I’m just wondering, like, was it canned, like, the day before right next door

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or something?

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Yeah, I mean, it was like a French equivalent, you know, Red Folgers-like can. I’m like,

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”All right.”

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Peter, I thought you were gonna ask how French the coffee was.

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Yeah.

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Just, “Ahh.”

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”Ahh, je coven.”

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”Bonjour.”

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I also have another brew. Peter, you and I talked about this one.

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All right.

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Talk to me.

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I don’t need to talk to you. You just have to look at your screen.

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Oh, yeah.

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Delirium red. Yes. Oh, yes. I bell bell bell er, yes. I like that ballerium a

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Belgian ale with cherry and elderberry

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Hmm. So here’s my confession. I actually drank one of these the other night and I have to say a little bit sweet

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It’s a lot like drinking cherry syrup

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Looks it kind of looks like a you know, what’s cheer wine?

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Yeah, and I don’t know if I’m gonna drink this whole thing because I do have some professional obligations

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Is it supposed to be like a lambic a what?

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Lambic it’s a style of beer. I don’t know Frederick on it Frederick

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Frederick lambic that sounds similar. Yeah, there’s

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It just says Belgian ale Belgian. Why am I saying Belgian today? It’s a BELgian because you’re drunk

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Have you been spending time in the southern United States Belgian anyway, so yeah, I’m probably not gonna finish this whole thing

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Well, I did just eat a gigantic lunch in preparation for this, so maybe I will drink the whole

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thing, but I hope that nobody that I know is listening to this because I have some professional

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obligations after this, so my intention is to not get buzzed at all.

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Don’t get fired at Monolith 3000.

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Or even away from Monolith 3000.

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Well, I mean, you can get fired later.

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Who cares?

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Oh, just don’t get fired at Monolith 3000.

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Right.

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Fire on-prem or it doesn’t count.

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Speaking of firing things, should we use that as a quick transition before we go into

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tech. Before we go into our tech, let’s talk about someone else’s tech. So dear listener,

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I don’t know if you’re aware, but the world’s richest man scraped up some couch change,

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you know, from the cushions there, sold off a bunch of Tesla stock and bought Twitter.

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And I think John Siracusa summed it up best, where he’s been basically doing things since

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taking over this business that if anyone else did, you would say this person’s an idiot.

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But because he’s a billionaire, people are saying, “Wow, he’s brilliant!”

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He’s a brilliant idiot.

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He’s playing three-dimensional chess with Twitter.

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No, he’s just being an idiot.

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Oh my goodness, I love that.

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The latest I just heard was that email that he sent out to all…

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Should we recap?

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Let’s step it back a little bit.

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Let’s recap.

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So twas…

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Twas.

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Twas.

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Twas the night before Christmas.

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Twas the night before Twitter.

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Twas the night before Mastodon.

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So Musk put in several months ago, you know, an announcement in classic Elon Musk fashion

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saying that he was going to buy Twitter.

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And this did all kinds of funny things to the stock market and the valuation of both

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Twitter and Tesla.

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I don’t remember where it all ended up, but I am sure that, you know, millions, if not

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billions were made just because of the waves that he threw out, you know.

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And I am sure also that he profited amongst that too, even though, you know, maybe not

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Directly, you know, but somehow well not only that but he said he wanted to buy it

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And then he said he didn’t want to buy it. He tried to back out. So I’m sure that had boom corresponding

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And he went too far too there were legal ramifications

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Yes, right and he was and for once he actually had to follow through on these, you know

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The SEC or whoever held his feet to the fire. So thank goodness for that. Wait, wait, wait, but normally I would say

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Thank goodness for that because the law should be followed if you make a legally binding commitment. You should be

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Yeah, maybe yeah, yeah, maybe not this time. Maybe it would have been this time

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Yeah, maybe maybe it would have been better if he didn’t but he still even if he hadn’t bought it

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He still did, you know would have profited tons and you know

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like done irreparable harm to a lot of people because of their Twitter stock because if there I

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Assure you there are plenty of people out there who like me one day after one of his proclamations on Tesla

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I’m gonna take it to 420, you know, like because he was doing things a few years ago

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It was causing the Tesla stock to spike and then plummet faster than Bitcoin

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so

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What nothing a little facetious? Yeah, there’s nothing Tesla. No, no, dude

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He took Tesla stock and he put it to plaid man. He put Tesla stock in ludicrous mode Tesla coin. Anyway, Tesla coin

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So, you know Tesla stock was bouncing up and down all over the place and some people like me said I’ve had enough of this

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this, I’m out and I sold at a loss just because I was done with this guy because I was just

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sick of my money being thrown around on a whim like him. And so, I can imagine there

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are people who owned a lot more Tesla who were hurt with this. I know there were people

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who owned a lot more Twitter stock than I did that were hurt by this.

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So, then he comes back afterwards and says, “Okay, I will buy it after,” and we’re fast

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Fast-forwarding through all of his you know shenanigans like oh, I’m not gonna buy Twitter because it’s full of bots and blah blah blah blah blah

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So then he comes back and buys it and what did he do on like day one fired like the CEO the CEO?

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And a bunch of other executives wasn’t Dorsey. It was Dorsey. There was the CEO though, right? I don’t think he fired Dorsey

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I thought Dorsey had already stepped down or she was oh, that’s true. Yeah, so he comes in and starts cleaning house

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Fires like now and one of the biggest problems that they’re having with with Twitter is like validation verification and you know, like sense

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harassment and stuff and apparently fired like

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Either all of or most of the team that is required for like, you know content moderation

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Which is wonderful just like constant hearing constant stories about this where he’s just doing the same kind of stuff

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And you know, he’s like it’s not like he’s shooting first and asking questions later

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He’s just shooting left and right. He’s just shooting first. There’s no questions. Yeah. Yeah, exactly

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So the latest I just heard was you know, he sent this email out. We should get a copy of the email

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We should definitely tag it but you know a copy of the email that was sent to all Twitter employees

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I’m sure we can find it basically telling everybody giving everyone a

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deadline of like

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you know midnight last night or something that you know, if you’re gonna stay you’re gonna stay part of hardcore Twitter and you know

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batten down the hatches and, you know, be prepared to work 24/7. I’m just paraphrasing Ed Living now,

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but essentially sending out an email to everybody saying, you know, if you either can stay or you go.

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And apparently it was reviewed by an attorney who specializes in employment law and was saying how,

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like, so much of the content of this email was labor law violations. So.

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Yeah. I mean, Elon Musk himself is a labor law violation.

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Yeah, there you go. He is!

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Going back to the purchase thing, if he would have just manipulated the stock

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price and caused damage that way, that would have been bad enough. But that

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was a whole “dum-beer” thing for the show that was to come.

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Well, and that’s illegal to manipulate stock prices.

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Yeah. Yeah, and yet he does it all the time. I know, but he

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he either does it in a way that they can’t prove that that’s what he’s doing,

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or no one cares about laws anymore. I don’t

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know which. Well, no one does care because he’s

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he’s been doing this kind of stuff for a while now. So I’m looking online trying to find a

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complete, I find references to extremely hardcore Twitter and this article on Business Insider or

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CNN refers to how when the Model 3, the Tesla Model 3 was lagging in production that he slept

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on the floor at the Tesla factory. I’m like He was just drunk.

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Is that supposed to be inspiration? Like, you know, I just, you know, I, so, so the guy’s over

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on ATP. I think they hit the nail on the head a lot when they’re talking about how to manage people

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and how not to manage people and just, you know, he’s just like, he’s just doing stupid stuff. He

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doesn’t know how to interface with people, like at all. And, you know, and we’re just, we’re just

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seeing it. He’s a major dick. Major dick. He’s the world’s richest dick. He’s the world’s Richardist

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Richard. He’s the richest Richard.

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Richy rich.

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Last time, Peter, in the episode that I put out on Monday, we talked about Twitter and

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I said my plan was to stay on Twitter. It still is, but we didn’t soft pedal it and

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we didn’t understate it. We said what we thought about Elon Musk. But at the time that we recorded

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that, we hadn’t seen the immense rapid pace at which he was going to try to destroy the

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company and the service itself. Like they have no network security people right now,

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Basically, Mm-hmm Siracusa have made an excellent point about how it’s one thing to work people to death if you have a startup

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And you don’t have a product

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They have a product. They don’t have to do this instead what he’s doing is tearing down the existing product

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that’s the part that I don’t like to see and if Twitter becomes a

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You know basically a harassment free-for-all then sure I’ll use it less, and I’m already using it less

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But I don’t plan to quit Twitter for right now, but I do think it’s a massive shame what he’s doing to it because

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People have become very reliant on it as a news

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Distribution network if it wasn’t for the fact that people relied on it for information

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This wouldn’t matter so much if it was literally just social

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Yeah, do you think he’s intentionally?

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Plumbering it on purpose. I don’t know. I don’t know if the guy has that much of a plan

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Yeah, it’s hard to say did you read the the article in the Atlantic Adam?

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I know Scott sent it to me cock which had all kinds of copies of his text messages

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I didn’t read that I didn’t read all those

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That one is it’s insightful because you’ve got all kinds of Silicon Valley bigwigs like Larry Ellison

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Jason Calacanis and I forget who and they’re all just kissing Elon’s ass trying to get a piece of the action

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But have any of those guys that you’ve named right there ever struck you as anything more than weasels

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Yes, Larry Ellison is not just a weasel. He’s evil. Calacanis is just a weasel weasel

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So so so yeah, Larry Ellison is an evil weasel

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You know, but but like just showing like they’re you know, they’re business plans so to speak for you

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Like how are you gonna revolutionize Twitter? Well, we’re gonna democratize it and what wait what what but that’s like the extent of their their

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quote unquote business plans are a couple of concepts that they text back and forth.

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And these are the richest, some of the most powerful, influential people on the planet.

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It’s wonderful when you stop and think about it.

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Look, I get that journalism isn’t perfect.

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There’s lots of journalists that, you know, we’re all human.

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We have biases.

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There are journalists that bring their biases in, blah, blah, blah.

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You can go on and on.

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But to talk about democratized journalism basically just means it’s the same as when,

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know, see something, say something. Amateur security, amateur actors give

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amateur results. Same thing with democratized journalism. Like, people in

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general, they don’t know how to source stuff, they don’t know how to verify

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stuff, they don’t know how to avoid conflicts of interest, they don’t know

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how to do any of this stuff. There’s a reason why journalism exists as a

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profession. But Elon Musk just wants to wipe it all out and have everyone be

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their own journalist. Yeah. It’s basically going to be a conspiracy theory

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newsletter. Pretty much. I mean the thing is that he’s… it’s not unlike the whole

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”drain the swamp” plan that we were given in the 2016 election cycle. That

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completely filled the swamp. Exactly. You know, it was “build a wall, drain the swamp.”

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Eh, build a swamp. Just compile, you know, just consolidate the efforts, right?

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Have you… have you… you’ve watched The Orville, right? Oh yeah. So you’ve seen all

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season. I’ve not gotten past the first season. But there was the episode where it was the

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Democratic vote. Everybody had a pin and they were either thumbed up or thumbed down and based on

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your popularity in the world, you know, bad things would happen to you.

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Yes. It’s almost like that. I mean, it wasn’t based on facts. It was based on,

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do I like something right now? Did this sensationalize me right now to like or dislike?

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And it was the right and wrong. The Orville is great political commentary and you know it just

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it hits so many points and drives them right home you know and I do maintain the assertion that it

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is a better Star Trek than Star Trek. It does sound pretty good. It’s on uh what is that on?

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Who? It’s on who? Now it’s on Hulu, Disney Plus. You can get it on Disney Plus. Oh it is?

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I thought it was on Hobo or something. I don’t have… It was on Hulu and then they moved it to

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Disney Plus too. I think it’s on both. Yeah, so you can find it either way. Okay, all right.

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Yeah, that was part of the Disney Fox, you know, studios acquisition stuff.

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Although Disney Plus is the worst app of all of them as far as like, it’s quality, buffering,

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running. It’s always buffering on me. I actually haven’t had that. I don’t think. We’ve only watched

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some of the Star Wars stuff on it. I mean, my daughter, I think, watched some of the Marvel stuff, but…

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I watch all the Marvel stuff. I know you do.

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I didn’t tell about what coffee I’m drinking today. Okay.

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I was gonna do a brew today. I was gonna do a beer because it’s, you know, afternoon my time today.

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and you have another reason well i went back to my standard old wegmans uh espresso whole bean decaf

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i did grind the beans though i’m not drinking whole beans right now scott you asked that

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because i figure well i don’t want to be up late i would be my sleep would be disturbed and my sleep

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was already disturbed last night as it was and because i’m pounding painkillers like they’re

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Candies I did not want to add alcohol to the mix by the way Peter. I have a confession to make

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This is what I drink my coffee out of every day and I drink several cups of this per day

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So when I see your little coffee mug, it’s like oh cute little coffee shot glass

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You should read my mug though, it’s a cat in the dryer

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Cat cat food. I like that. Oh, please. Oh, please

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please. Oh please, oh please. It was the oh please, oh please that Adam said that reminded

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me. Oh brother. So yeah, we’ll get back to the painkiller stuff later, but what’s up with,

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with Mastodon or Mastodo or Mastodon’t? Well, I just want to talk about it because everybody’s

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talking about Mastodon as the place to go and it’s the new Twitter or whatever, but oh my god.

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But if enough people go there, if it’s gonna actually become a Twitter substitute, there’s

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gonna be a major culture war that has to happen.

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Because I understand that the people who are there have built up a culture and they want

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it to be a safe place, and they don’t want to feel harassed or tense based on topics,

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and I get that.

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But those people frickin’ content warning everything.

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Like a lot of people on Mastodon believe that you have to content warning any discussion

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of food, for example.

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Food?

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What if it’s really spicy?

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Well, I understand that people have eating disorders.

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I can’t talk about peanuts because they blow me up.

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I’ll die.

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I’m upset.

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And besides all that, there’s the whole fact that you have to have a half hour conversation

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with people to explain to them what it is.

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Twitter was one service, one place.

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You don’t have to say, “Oh, well, which instance did I sign up on?”

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just sign up. You don’t have to understand that “how come I can’t see so

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and so on that server? Oh well this instance has that server blocked.” You

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don’t have to have all those conversations with people. And then

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finally, because it’s a bunch of instances, they all kind of get to do

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what they want. And also they’re running these things out of their own pockets. So

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many an instance has gone belly-up the minute of enough people join because hey

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all of a sudden somebody’s hosting bill’s got really expensive for some

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reason I don’t know why so I don’t know I don’t I don’t see Mastodon as the

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answer to all our problems I think for a certain niche it is but if it’s ever

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going to become home to journalists and athletes and you know all the normal

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people that are on Twitter it just has to change in order to be used by normal

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people there seems to be a definite parallel between you know it’s like it’s

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It’s like Twitter is to Windows as Mastodon is to Linux.

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You know, it’s like, you say, I’m going to run Linux.

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Okay, well, which distribution?

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Wait, what?

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And then which desktop window manager do you want?

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How come my sound card isn’t working?

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Yeah, well, at least we still have sound issues

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over on the Mac now just to make it easy.

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Actually, I didn’t today.

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Did anyone have audio issues today

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when we started recording?

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No. Nope.

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I think that’s a first.

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So I figured out Mastodon’s

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going to have to monetize with porn.

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That’s what they’re going to do.

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Oh my god, I don’t want to see elephants engaging in pornography.

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There’s got to be a porn mastodon hub thing that you can…

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Yeah, I didn’t see any, but I mean, I used to like Tumblr, which I don’t really go there,

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because there were some really cool artsy posts and things that I like to see, just

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cool photos and…

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And there still were.

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There still were at the end.

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Or there still is, I think it still exists.

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Yeah.

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But yeah, at some point they decided to actually put the word Tumblr in Tumblr.

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Yeah.

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So, I mean, I don’t really go there.

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I don’t really go to Instagram anymore, because it just…

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It doesn’t matter what technology it is.

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Human beings are always going to use it for porn.

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It just seems to always end up that way.

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The print, the greatest, you know, the greatest conversion of knowledge, next thing you do,

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you have a dirty magazine.

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VCRs, television, streaming video.

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Just like that.

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The French press.

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Hmm.

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Yeah.

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I can’t believe what they did with that one.

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Oh my goodness, not the French press.

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I think that’s a different kind of press, but okay.

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You heard that song that one of the comedians at the internet, “It’s great for porn.”

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It’s like a little jingle.

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Internet is really, really great for porn.

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See, I think, I don’t know, I still think the internet is cat videos.

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Cat videos?

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Boom.

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I don’t want.

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Do not want, Peter.

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No.

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Well, I mean, you could combine those if you wanted.

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All right, well let’s talk about technology.

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Do not want.

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Yeah, so Scott, kick us off.

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You said that you bought some new tech recently.

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I didn’t just say that I bought new tech, I did buy new tech, and I want to show you

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guys this.

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Fantastic.

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There.

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Oh hey, I know that guy.

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See, I’m a minimalist, like my desk is like yours.

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Very minimal.

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Yeah, I have the laptop up on a stand

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so I can use it as a second monitor.

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And also because it has touch ID and stuff on the keyboard,

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I wanna be able to get access to the touch ID.

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But yeah, it makes a great second monitor.

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By the way, so here’s what I bought.

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I bought a 2021 14-inch M1 Pro MacBook Pro.

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It is 10 CPU core, 16 GPU core, 16 gigabytes of RAM, which I honestly wanted to go higher.

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But it’s actually really efficient. I’ve got so much stuff running.

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Used to be on my iMac, I would shut everything else down, except for the apps I needed to do podcasting with.

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I didn’t close any of my stuff down. I have VS Code running. I’ve got Chrome. I’ve got Transmit. I’ve got Safari.

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I’ve got Audio Hijack.

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I’ve got it all running right now and it’s fine.

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It does totally fine.

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But yeah, so anyway, and then a one terabyte SSD.

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So the reason why I bought now

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and the reason why I bought this particular one,

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even though I was planning on waiting

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and getting something with a little more RAM

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and maybe a bigger hard drive,

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was Amazon had these for $500 less

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than Apple was selling them for.

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The difference in price between the custom one

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that I wanted Apple to build for me

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and this one that Amazon will sell me with these specs is $1600.

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That’s the difference in price between what I thought I was going to eventually buy versus this price.

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So I was like, you know what?

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And then somebody that I know and trust has this exact same model and they said,

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”Dude, this is more than adequate for you.

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You don’t need to worry about more RAM or anything like that.”

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So I went with it and man, super happy.

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Great, great laptop.

00:24:21.520 —> 00:24:24.800
So you went with the 14 instead of the 13.

00:24:24.800 —> 00:24:29.000
Well, the 13 is not a computer you want.

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First of all, the M1 in it isn’t as good.

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Secondly, it’s still the old body.

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It still has the touch bar.

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No, I would not have bought that.

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It would have basically been buying

00:24:39.220 —> 00:24:41.720
older, not so good technology.

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And honestly, I think the 14 inch is the best compromise

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because I want some screen size

00:24:48.700 —> 00:24:51.680
because I already have used this as a laptop quite a bit

00:24:51.680 —> 00:24:54.120
and I wanna be able to run VS Code and Chrome on it

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side-by-side and I have a my work laptop is now I had a 16 inch HP at work I

00:24:59.980 —> 00:25:05.220
thought I liked it I thought I wanted all that screen and then I got a Lenovo

00:25:05.220 —> 00:25:12.260
ThinkPad t14 which is a 14 inch and it’s just so nice so nice and by the way

00:25:12.260 —> 00:25:17.660
Lenovo build quality is so much better than HP I can’t even tell you but but

00:25:17.660 —> 00:25:22.420
the 14 inch form factor really hit home for me so that’s how I knew that I would

00:25:22.420 —> 00:25:26.420
like the 14-inch MacBook Pro. I’m with you there. And I think it’s a really good

00:25:26.420 —> 00:25:30.500
compromise. It’s got a bunch of Thunderbolt ports, it’s got plenty of

00:25:30.500 —> 00:25:36.180
power, like I said, it ticks every box. Nice, yeah, because I’ve been considering, I

00:25:36.180 —> 00:25:40.460
want an ultra portable, I want something that I can pull out on a plane and

00:25:40.460 —> 00:25:46.780
actually take some notes and work. Yeah. And the 13, I could do that, but I also

00:25:46.780 —> 00:25:50.660
think I could do that with the 14. I certainly can’t do that with my MacBook

00:25:50.660 —> 00:25:56.900
Pro 16. No, I think you could get away with it with the 14. I will acknowledge to Peter,

00:25:56.900 —> 00:26:01.380
though I don’t consider this to be a heavy laptop, I do think that probably compared

00:26:01.380 —> 00:26:07.420
to his M2 Air he would probably think it was. I mean Apple does make metal computers, they

00:26:07.420 —> 00:26:14.740
don’t make them out of plastic. So any additional thickness does add noticeable weight. Does

00:26:14.740 —> 00:26:16.460
Does it get hot in your lap?

00:26:16.460 —> 00:26:17.300
No.

00:26:17.300 —> 00:26:18.140
It’s in your lap. No?

00:26:18.140 —> 00:26:20.420
I haven’t, I’ve never heard the fans.

00:26:20.420 —> 00:26:21.260
Nice.

00:26:21.260 —> 00:26:23.040
I had, now I haven’t bounced audio on this

00:26:23.040 —> 00:26:24.180
or done anything like that yet.

00:26:24.180 —> 00:26:26.400
When I edit this and I bounce it in logic,

00:26:26.400 —> 00:26:28.740
see what happens, but no, I haven’t.

00:26:28.740 —> 00:26:31.020
And that was, that used to be why I hated laptops.

00:26:31.020 —> 00:26:32.960
That’s why I had the iMac for so long.

00:26:32.960 —> 00:26:35.500
And that’s why I went away from using laptops was,

00:26:35.500 —> 00:26:36.520
I just hated all the heat.

00:26:36.520 —> 00:26:37.360
I hated the heat.

00:26:37.360 —> 00:26:38.760
I hated the noise.

00:26:38.760 —> 00:26:41.620
They were just massively compromised machines.

00:26:41.620 —> 00:26:44.640
But the Apple Silicon has really changed that

00:26:44.640 —> 00:26:46.600
for Apple’s laptops.

00:26:46.600 —> 00:26:48.220
I am surprised though, still,

00:26:48.220 —> 00:26:51.800
like I’m noticing I’m getting more beach balls lately

00:26:51.800 —> 00:26:55.400
on my Mac now, like just moving to Slack and stuff,

00:26:55.400 —> 00:26:57.860
moving back and forth between programs every now and then.

00:26:57.860 —> 00:27:00.560
I see like just random beach balls out of nowhere

00:27:00.560 —> 00:27:01.840
and I haven’t taken any time.

00:27:01.840 —> 00:27:03.040
It probably depends on what you’re using.

00:27:03.040 —> 00:27:03.880
’Cause like Slack-

00:27:03.880 —> 00:27:05.520
Slack is Electrum based.

00:27:05.520 —> 00:27:08.560
Slack is specifically one application that’s, yeah.

00:27:08.560 —> 00:27:11.160
And it’s not super memory efficient.

00:27:11.160 —> 00:27:12.840
And you probably use Chrome as your browser.

00:27:12.840 —> 00:27:14.040
Edge, but it’s Chromium based.

00:27:14.040 —> 00:27:16.000
Well, you use Edge, which is Chromium, yeah.

00:27:16.000 —> 00:27:18.880
But there’s that, and I also am spending a lot of time

00:27:18.880 —> 00:27:22.160
in Citrix VDIs for the hospital.

00:27:22.160 —> 00:27:24.640
So there’s, the deck is stacked against me,

00:27:24.640 —> 00:27:27.020
but I guess I am glad though that I have a, you know,

00:27:27.020 —> 00:27:29.740
relatively powerful processor to drive all those.

00:27:29.740 —> 00:27:32.720
My doctor told me to stay away from VDIs.

00:27:32.720 —> 00:27:33.800
Yeah, that’s pretty good.

00:27:33.800 —> 00:27:36.720
VDIs, STDs, et cetera, so.

00:27:36.720 —> 00:27:38.640
Penicillin billers are going up.

00:27:38.640 —> 00:27:42.000
Yeah, and then I got an Apple Studio display to go with it,

00:27:42.000 —> 00:27:46.720
I got the VESA mount model and so it’s on the VESA arm that my iMac used to be on.

00:27:46.720 —> 00:27:53.140
I have a VESA arm and all it’s doing right now is it’s the stand for my microphone.

00:27:53.140 —> 00:28:00.600
That’s all it’s doing at the back because I have one ultra-wide display that I’m using and that’s pretty much it at this point.

00:28:00.600 —> 00:28:02.600
So and it doesn’t it’s not a VESA mount.

00:28:02.600 —> 00:28:05.840
Wow, I need a nice monitor like that.

00:28:06.280 —> 00:28:10.740
Your chances are your monitor doesn’t need to be a VESA mount model most monitors

00:28:10.740 —> 00:28:14.200
You just unscrew this the stand and you stick them on a VESA mount

00:28:14.200 —> 00:28:18.420
Apple is the only one where you have to buy a specific monitor that has a VESA mount

00:28:18.420 —> 00:28:23.520
What I’m saying, I thought I thought you have that’s what I’m saying. That was like in the back if it has those four

00:28:23.520 —> 00:28:29.220
Things isn’t that called the VESA mount? Isn’t that the four the four prongs the four screws?

00:28:29.220 —> 00:28:33.240
It just has to have four screws, but your stand is mounted by four screws

00:28:34.360 —> 00:28:36.360
Probably. What model monitor do you have?

00:28:36.360 —> 00:28:37.960
It’s a…

00:28:37.960 —> 00:28:40.360
It’s an LG ultrawide something something.

00:28:40.360 —> 00:28:44.760
Yeah, undoubtedly it’s got four screws in the back of the stand.

00:28:44.760 —> 00:28:46.600
You may have to pop off a cover to see them.

00:28:46.600 —> 00:28:52.360
I’ve unfortunately bought monitors lately that were not VESA mount compatible.

00:28:52.360 —> 00:28:56.120
Like they had their own unique and they did not include the four.

00:28:56.120 —> 00:28:56.620
Really?

00:28:56.620 —> 00:28:58.120
Yeah, it was…

00:28:58.120 —> 00:29:01.560
And they were 27 inch monitors too, so…

00:29:01.560 —> 00:29:02.520
What brand were these?

00:29:03.080 —> 00:29:09.160
Oh, they were, I mean, they were like, they weren’t Viewsonic, but they were like an Acer.

00:29:09.160 —> 00:29:17.400
I mean, I either buy Acer or Viewsonic or Samsung. I mean, those are monitors. But yeah,

00:29:17.400 —> 00:29:22.760
I made the mistake and one of my guys is like, “Okay, you don’t get a monitor, Stan. You get…”

00:29:22.760 —> 00:29:29.080
Or, “You don’t get the arms.” He’s like, “Eh, it’s fine. I don’t care. Whatever.”

00:29:29.880 —> 00:29:33.560
I know the Viewsonics, we have some Viewsonics at work and I know those are always,

00:29:33.560 —> 00:29:37.800
at least the ones we have, you can take off the stand and put them on a VESA.

00:29:37.800 —> 00:29:41.720
Yeah, but I can’t believe I missed that when I was buying it.

00:29:41.720 —> 00:29:46.040
It’s like, that is weird. Honestly, there’s no reason to do that.

00:29:46.040 —> 00:29:49.320
I know why Apple does it because they have super fancy integrated stands

00:29:49.320 —> 00:29:53.800
and their VESA mount works and they don’t want screws on the back of their devices, right?

00:29:53.800 —> 00:29:55.320
That is literally why.

00:29:55.320 —> 00:29:56.520
Because you can see those.

00:29:56.520 —> 00:30:00.520
Yeah, exactly. Along with cables and cables in the product shots too. We don’t have those.

00:30:00.520 —> 00:30:08.280
I got a little CalDigit Thunderbolt hub/doc. It connects all my Thunderbolt accessories and it

00:30:08.280 —> 00:30:16.040
also has USB-A for like my interface to my mic and any other USB. And I took my second SSD out

00:30:16.040 —> 00:30:22.200
of my iMac and it’s now a second drive that attaches to the Thunderbolt dock. And then

00:30:22.920 —> 00:30:27.080
The Thunderbolt dock powers the MacBook Pro with through Thunderbolt.

00:30:27.080 —> 00:30:28.940
Sweet!

00:30:28.940 —> 00:30:30.440
Cannot complain.

00:30:30.440 —> 00:30:36.360
Yep. Mine is… I bought mine in December of 2019, my MacBook Pro, so I gotta at least make it three

00:30:36.360 —> 00:30:37.400
or four years out of it.

00:30:37.400 —> 00:30:41.480
Yeah. Well, my iMac was a 2015, so…

00:30:41.480 —> 00:30:43.560
Oh yeah, that’s a long run.

00:30:43.560 —> 00:30:52.120
For the first time in that I can remember, I am current with the latest and greatest in everything.

00:30:52.680 —> 00:30:54.920
that I have in the Apple world right now.

00:30:54.920 —> 00:30:59.880
Uh, I take that back. Nope, I’m wrong. I’m wrong. My AirPods are old, older generation.

00:30:59.880 —> 00:31:05.400
But as far as anything with a screen, anything with a screen, I have the Apple Watch Ultra,

00:31:05.400 —> 00:31:13.400
I got the iPhone 14 Pro, I have a MacBook M2 Air, and I have an iPad Mini, which is still the latest

00:31:13.400 —> 00:31:19.080
iPad Mini. Peter, I can’t believe you held us up at the very beginning, stuffin-preciously stuffing

00:31:19.080 —> 00:31:22.200
your Gen 1 AirPods Pro into your ears.

00:31:22.200 —> 00:31:27.320
I know. I feel like such a loser.

00:31:27.320 —> 00:31:32.760
Peter’s a technology pendulum. He gets a “I’m on the latest stuff” and then he goes “I’m not

00:31:32.760 —> 00:31:35.640
buying anything new for two years.” Yeah, I know.

00:31:35.640 —> 00:31:40.200
”I’m gonna keep this junk running.” “Peter, just buy a new one.”

00:31:40.200 —> 00:31:44.600
”No, I promised myself I wouldn’t buy new gear for two years.”

00:31:44.600 —> 00:31:49.000
And then something snaps just like a tendon in my knee and I go and buy it.

00:31:49.000 —> 00:31:54.920
When you said that I actually felt, before you even said tendon, I felt my knee twinge

00:31:54.920 —> 00:32:00.600
on behalf of you. But no, I think keeping technology and using it as long as possible is

00:32:00.600 —> 00:32:05.240
not only is it cheaper than not doing it, but it’s also, I don’t know, it’s just the right thing.

00:32:05.240 —> 00:32:09.960
There’s so much electronic garbage in the world. Until you get to a point when it’s really slowing

00:32:09.960 —> 00:32:13.320
you down though, you know, like if… Yeah, yeah, yeah, but I’m saying, I’m saying,

00:32:13.320 —> 00:32:17.880
I’m not saying inconvenience yourself. Yeah, exactly. But I am saying the tech nerds on

00:32:17.880 —> 00:32:22.840
podcasts that always buy everything new every single year. Otherwise you, you gotta get

00:32:22.840 —> 00:32:27.240
listeners, man. How else are you going to get listeners? I have to talk about it, they say,

00:32:27.240 —> 00:32:33.320
and then they never talk about it. Right. So I have not played with, Adam, have you played with

00:32:33.320 —> 00:32:38.920
the satellite SOS feature on your iPhone? Yes. I have not tried that. Yes, I have. I haven’t

00:32:38.920 —> 00:32:43.240
tried that. Peter used it, oh I thought you used it the other day when your leg broke. No, I wish I

00:32:43.240 —> 00:32:48.760
did have it. Yeah, see then you could have used it, but you really can’t use it for anything other

00:32:48.760 —> 00:32:54.920
than emergency services. So you really can’t practice that. But I thought you could, there’s

00:32:54.920 —> 00:33:00.600
a practice mode. There is, I don’t know any of the details about it, but there is a practice mode.

00:33:00.600 —> 00:33:04.680
I think it simulates, but it doesn’t just actually deliver the message. It doesn’t make an actual

00:33:04.680 —> 00:33:08.680
call. But it makes sure that it can connect to the satellite and so forth. Yeah, here at my

00:33:08.680 —> 00:33:13.960
farm I’m on SOS the whole time. I mean I go out to my front field it’s it it doesn’t pick up anything.

00:33:13.960 —> 00:33:20.120
So yeah there’s a there’s a bunch of articles on that and I guess I’ll go straight to the one from

00:33:20.120 —> 00:33:26.840
Apple but yeah you go to settings go to emergency SOS and under emergency SOS via satellite tap

00:33:26.840 —> 00:33:35.240
try demo. I’m gonna have to try the demo. We should try that. Adam, I a long time ago I had a neighbor who was a

00:33:36.760 —> 00:33:37.960
Why did he call himself?

00:33:37.960 —> 00:33:41.260
Anyway, his whole business was acting on behalf

00:33:41.260 —> 00:33:46.260
of cell companies to find tower locations for them.

00:33:46.260 —> 00:33:49.800
And he would go to landowners and broker these deals.

00:33:49.800 —> 00:33:52.500
You could make some serious money.

00:33:52.500 —> 00:33:54.240
You could subsidize your farm

00:33:54.240 —> 00:33:56.800
if you would just let them stick a couple super ugly,

00:33:56.800 —> 00:33:59.000
cancer-causing towers right in the middle of your farm.

00:33:59.000 —> 00:34:00.360
(laughing)

00:34:00.360 —> 00:34:01.640
Right in the middle of my lavender.

00:34:01.640 —> 00:34:04.680
I wanna make everything Yes, that’s right.

00:34:04.680 —> 00:34:08.000
homeopathic with a touch of radiation.

00:34:08.000 —> 00:34:09.520
Just a touch.

00:34:09.520 —> 00:34:12.200
Just the right amount, right?

00:34:12.200 —> 00:34:14.720
Just the right amount of radiation.

00:34:14.720 —> 00:34:19.240
Hey, do you want lavender that glows in the dark or not?

00:34:19.240 —> 00:34:20.720
Yeah, purple glowing lavender.

00:34:20.720 —> 00:34:22.520
Now that’s some cool stuff right there.

00:34:22.520 —> 00:34:23.400
You could make more money.

00:34:23.400 —> 00:34:25.800
Adam, remind me, which iPhone are you on now?

00:34:25.800 —> 00:34:27.960
The 14 Pro what?

00:34:27.960 —> 00:34:29.320
14 Pro.

00:34:29.320 —> 00:34:31.240
So we have the same phone for once.

00:34:31.240 —> 00:34:32.080
Okay.

00:34:32.080 —> 00:34:37.240
I, because I’m not a, I’m not on the big phone guy. Yeah, but the difference is

00:34:37.240 —> 00:34:46.720
Adam’s works with his AirPods. Yeah, because I don’t have it. I was going to say, does Adam even have AirPods?

00:34:46.720 —> 00:34:51.440
I have Jabras. The Jabras always work. Adam’s non-existent AirPods don’t make a

00:34:51.440 —> 00:34:58.320
buzzing noise, Peter. Yeah, yeah, so I’m gonna give that a try. I’m gonna go out to the

00:34:58.320 —> 00:35:01.800
front field and see if the emergency SOS works.

00:35:01.800 —> 00:35:03.880
Watch a helicopter show up on your property.

00:35:03.880 —> 00:35:04.720
Yeah.

00:35:04.720 —> 00:35:07.360
And explain that to your wife.

00:35:07.360 —> 00:35:10.280
Explain that $30,000 bill to your wife.

00:35:10.280 —> 00:35:14.000
Yeah, we are here to take you to prison for falsely,

00:35:14.000 —> 00:35:17.120
you know, like, dude, it says demo.

00:35:17.120 —> 00:35:20.120
Yeah, you know how much it costs

00:35:20.120 —> 00:35:22.160
to demo a helicopter out here?

00:35:22.160 —> 00:35:25.320
I mean, considering how much it costs

00:35:25.320 —> 00:35:26.360
to have an ambulance show up,

00:35:26.360 —> 00:35:27.720
I can’t imagine what would happen

00:35:27.720 —> 00:35:30.060
if you had to foot the bill for the helicopter.

00:35:30.060 —> 00:35:30.900
Oh wow.

00:35:30.900 —> 00:35:32.300
I should be able to find those

00:35:32.300 —> 00:35:34.880
’cause my father never throws anything away

00:35:34.880 —> 00:35:35.720
and I’m sure he has.

00:35:35.720 —> 00:35:38.120
Don’t they measure fuel in thousands of dollars per minute

00:35:38.120 —> 00:35:38.960
or hundreds of dollars per minute?

00:35:38.960 —> 00:35:41.200
I was gonna say, it’s something like gallons per mile

00:35:41.200 —> 00:35:43.160
or something, you know?

00:35:43.160 —> 00:35:44.740
So funny story.

00:35:44.740 —> 00:35:49.420
We, on 9-1-1, Peter’s heard the story,

00:35:49.420 —> 00:35:51.720
but I don’t know, Scott, if you’ve heard this story.

00:35:51.720 —> 00:35:53.400
So I had a new tech

00:35:53.400 —> 00:35:57.360
and we were putting in voice over IP phone systems

00:35:57.360 —> 00:36:00.720
And whenever we set up a new site,

00:36:00.720 —> 00:36:05.120
we do a test call to the 9-1-1 system where they are.

00:36:05.120 —> 00:36:09.280
And our standard procedure was you dial 9-1-1,

00:36:09.280 —> 00:36:11.640
and then you immediately tell the dispatcher,

00:36:11.640 —> 00:36:14.940
this is a test call to confirm that the address is properly

00:36:14.940 —> 00:36:17.280
showing up.

00:36:17.280 —> 00:36:18.520
It takes just a couple of minutes.

00:36:18.520 —> 00:36:20.280
They document the system.

00:36:20.280 —> 00:36:21.640
They repeat back your address.

00:36:21.640 —> 00:36:23.720
They hang up on you, clear the channel.

00:36:23.720 —> 00:36:25.360
Typically, 30 seconds.

00:36:25.360 —> 00:36:29.180
And I described this to the tech, what he was going to experience.

00:36:29.180 —> 00:36:36.380
He said, “No, I’m not doing that because it’s illegal to call 9-1-1 when it’s not an emergency.

00:36:36.380 —> 00:36:38.220
Not illegal, but you’re not supposed to do that.”

00:36:38.220 —> 00:36:40.780
I said, “No, this is part of the testing process.

00:36:40.780 —> 00:36:44.980
This is not some joke or hazing.

00:36:44.980 —> 00:36:48.420
And I wouldn’t do a joke like that.”

00:36:48.420 —> 00:36:53.300
Well, the 9-1-1 dispatcher lost it with him.

00:36:53.300 —> 00:36:57.780
said, “You don’t call this line as a test line. There’s a test phone number that you’re supposed

00:36:57.780 —> 00:37:02.580
to call and you should have called this number.” He was like, “Oh, I’m so sorry. I didn’t know. I

00:37:02.580 —> 00:37:09.540
was informed.” And she said, “Well, the police are being dispatched to your location.” And they were.

00:37:09.540 —> 00:37:13.620
They dispatched the police. Oh my God, he swatted himself.

00:37:13.620 —> 00:37:19.940
He swatted himself. And so I explained to him, I was like, “This was the procedure that we’ve done

00:37:20.660 —> 00:37:25.000
every time we deploy a new VoIP system.

00:37:25.000 —> 00:37:27.120
So I’ve never heard of this phone number before.

00:37:27.120 —> 00:37:29.320
Let’s write it down, let’s use that for the testing.

00:37:29.320 —> 00:37:31.260
I mean, we don’t wanna cause problems,

00:37:31.260 —> 00:37:33.520
but we had a police officer show up

00:37:33.520 —> 00:37:35.600
to make sure that there wasn’t an emergency.

00:37:35.600 —> 00:37:36.520
(laughing)

00:37:36.520 —> 00:37:37.340
Wow.

00:37:37.340 —> 00:37:38.980
You should have said he was a criminal.

00:37:38.980 —> 00:37:40.020
Yeah.

00:37:40.020 —> 00:37:41.860
This guy, get him out of here.

00:37:41.860 —> 00:37:43.720
Yeah, get him out of here, I don’t know who he is.

00:37:43.720 —> 00:37:45.520
He’s hijacked my office.

00:37:45.520 —> 00:37:46.520
That’s hilarious.

00:37:46.520 —> 00:37:47.980
(laughing)

00:37:47.980 —> 00:37:49.920
That guy never believed a word you said ever again.

00:37:49.920 —> 00:37:51.920
No, he wouldn’t.

00:37:51.920 —> 00:37:53.920
It’s funny, we go to church together.

00:37:53.920 —> 00:37:55.200
[LAUGHTER]

00:37:55.200 —> 00:37:56.400
He’s like, that guy’s a liar.

00:37:56.400 —> 00:37:57.160
That guy’s a liar.

00:37:57.160 —> 00:37:57.720
He’s a liar.

00:37:57.720 —> 00:37:59.760
[LAUGHTER]

00:37:59.760 —> 00:38:01.040
He needs to confess some sins.

00:38:01.040 —> 00:38:02.840
[LAUGHTER]

00:38:02.840 —> 00:38:03.600
That’s hilarious.

00:38:03.600 —> 00:38:04.680
He gets people in trouble.

00:38:04.680 —> 00:38:06.240
[LAUGHTER]

00:38:06.240 —> 00:38:07.400
Oh my god.

00:38:07.400 —> 00:38:08.680
That is so awesome.

00:38:08.680 —> 00:38:10.800
I hope that guy enjoyed every second of it.

00:38:10.800 —> 00:38:13.440
[LAUGHTER]

00:38:13.440 —> 00:38:15.360
Now, so Peter, I mentioned it to you.

00:38:15.360 —> 00:38:19.200
My iPhone 14, one of the problems is a button placement.

00:38:19.200 —> 00:38:22.980
I take a lot of screenshots unintentionally now

00:38:22.980 —> 00:38:24.560
when I’m trying to lock the screen.

00:38:24.560 —> 00:38:26.880
It’s okay to be proud of your home screen, Adam.

00:38:26.880 —> 00:38:31.000
Well, ‘cause they’re right beside each other.

00:38:31.000 —> 00:38:33.400
I did that when I first went to,

00:38:33.400 —> 00:38:35.440
from an iPhone that had the button on top too,

00:38:35.440 —> 00:38:36.760
that the iPhone had him opposing me.

00:38:36.760 —> 00:38:38.840
So when you’re trying to push just the power button,

00:38:38.840 —> 00:38:41.000
you’re pushing the power button and a volume?

00:38:41.000 —> 00:38:43.560
Yeah, ‘cause my hand on the other side

00:38:43.560 —> 00:38:46.320
is just where my finger is landing,

00:38:46.320 —> 00:38:49.080
and then I press it and they automatically push each other.

00:38:49.080 —> 00:38:51.440
Because my 12 was not right there.

00:38:51.440 —> 00:38:52.360
It was higher.

00:38:52.360 —> 00:38:53.360
Right, correct.

00:38:53.360 —> 00:38:54.200
Yeah, it did take me a little bit.

00:38:54.200 —> 00:38:57.100
I had the same problem, Adam, but yeah, yeah.

00:38:57.100 —> 00:38:59.060
Like Peter, eventually my hand.

00:38:59.060 —> 00:39:01.040
Found a new spot.

00:39:01.040 —> 00:39:02.000
It must have.

00:39:02.000 —> 00:39:03.240
I didn’t consciously think about it,

00:39:03.240 —> 00:39:05.120
but I know that I’m not taking screenshots

00:39:05.120 —> 00:39:05.960
all the time anymore.

00:39:05.960 —> 00:39:07.320
Yep.

00:39:07.320 —> 00:39:09.120
And my phone is a little bit heavier.

00:39:09.120 —> 00:39:11.180
The 14 Pro is a little bit heavier.

00:39:11.180 —> 00:39:12.020
It is.

00:39:12.020 —> 00:39:12.840
I don’t mind it.

00:39:12.840 —> 00:39:14.480
It feels a little bit sturdier in my hand.

00:39:14.480 —> 00:39:15.320
I don’t know.

00:39:15.320 —> 00:39:17.120
It’s like having a good pistol.

00:39:17.120 —> 00:39:18.600
It’s nice and heavy.

00:39:18.600 —> 00:39:21.140
Well, mine’s not, but it’s because I stepped down

00:39:21.140 —> 00:39:22.860
from the 12 Pro Max.

00:39:22.860 —> 00:39:27.000
So I went down from my first big phone ever.

00:39:27.000 —> 00:39:32.000
And while I do like using the big screen and stuff,

00:39:32.000 —> 00:39:36.840
when I’m holding the phone and using it with both hands,

00:39:36.840 —> 00:39:38.720
I do like the bigger screen.

00:39:38.720 —> 00:39:41.680
But as far as portability and fitting into my pockets

00:39:41.680 —> 00:39:44.400
and fitting into my flip belt when I’m running,

00:39:44.400 —> 00:39:47.620
and I’m kind of happier with a smaller phone.

00:39:47.620 —> 00:39:50.040
So I’m kind of happy that I stepped back.

00:39:50.040 —> 00:39:52.800
The only thing I would say is your legs are weaker now,

00:39:52.800 —> 00:39:54.580
Peter, ‘cause you’re not carrying a bigger phone.

00:39:54.580 —> 00:39:55.420
And so-

00:39:55.420 —> 00:39:56.900
That’s why I had that problem yesterday.

00:39:56.900 —> 00:39:57.740
The knee injury.

00:39:57.740 —> 00:40:02.120
Oh man, now it makes, it all makes sense now, geez.

00:40:02.120 —> 00:40:03.800
Are you a swipe keyboard person?

00:40:03.800 —> 00:40:06.140
It depends on my mood.

00:40:06.140 —> 00:40:08.100
I am, and then, you know,

00:40:08.100 —> 00:40:10.000
I’ll start making more and more typos.

00:40:10.000 —> 00:40:13.000
So then I stop and then I’ll be typing, typing,

00:40:13.000 —> 00:40:15.100
typing one tap at a time and I’m like,

00:40:15.100 —> 00:40:15.980
oh, I’m going so slow.

00:40:15.980 —> 00:40:17.300
And then I’ll switch back to swipe.

00:40:17.300 —> 00:40:19.480
So I go back and forth.

00:40:19.480 —> 00:40:22.140
That was one of the things that I liked about Android

00:40:22.140 —> 00:40:24.360
was the swipe keyboard way back when,

00:40:24.360 —> 00:40:25.460
when it first came out.

00:40:25.460 —> 00:40:27.020
And then I like it.

00:40:27.020 —> 00:40:28.020
I mean, that’s all I use,

00:40:28.020 —> 00:40:30.680
but there’s still stupid password or stupid words

00:40:30.680 —> 00:40:34.380
that come up that have nothing to do with what I typed.

00:40:34.380 —> 00:40:36.740
They do, but here’s the weird thing for me, Adam.

00:40:36.740 —> 00:40:39.020
I find that when I type normal,

00:40:39.020 —> 00:40:41.940
autocorrect does way dumber things as opposed to swipe,

00:40:41.940 —> 00:40:44.460
which usually like I can just go swoosh and I’m like,

00:40:44.460 —> 00:40:45.960
it’s never gonna get that word.

00:40:45.960 —> 00:40:47.520
And it gets it.

00:40:47.520 —> 00:40:51.240
So somehow the swipe algorithm seems smarter

00:40:51.240 —> 00:40:52.080
than the normal one.

00:40:52.080 —> 00:40:52.900
And why aren’t they the same?

00:40:52.900 —> 00:40:54.340
I don’t know, but.

00:40:54.340 —> 00:40:55.460
I’d agree with that.

00:40:55.460 —> 00:40:57.740
It’s easy to get rid of that bad word though.

00:40:57.740 —> 00:41:00.720
I mean, it’s because you just hit the backspace once

00:41:00.720 —> 00:41:04.600
and it kills the whole word, which does make it nice.

00:41:04.600 —> 00:41:06.840
Yeah, every now and then I shoot myself in the foot

00:41:06.840 —> 00:41:08.120
with that where I just want to get rid

00:41:08.120 —> 00:41:09.680
of the last character or something

00:41:09.680 —> 00:41:10.800
or the last two characters,

00:41:10.800 —> 00:41:12.440
and then it deletes the whole word.

00:41:12.440 —> 00:41:14.100
But yes, that is super nice.

00:41:14.100 —> 00:41:18.100
I also will use, well, now I will use the swipe on my iPad

00:41:18.100 —> 00:41:20.460
because I didn’t know that it was available there,

00:41:20.460 —> 00:41:21.300
but it is.

00:41:21.300 —> 00:41:23.760
But only if you have the little screen, right?

00:41:23.760 —> 00:41:24.900
The little keyboard?

00:41:24.900 —> 00:41:26.100
That drives me crazy.

00:41:26.100 —> 00:41:27.000
Why? Yeah.

00:41:27.000 —> 00:41:28.020
I mean, it makes sense.

00:41:28.020 —> 00:41:28.860
Why?

00:41:28.860 —> 00:41:29.700
(laughs)

00:41:29.700 —> 00:41:31.060
But why? You can download

00:41:31.060 —> 00:41:32.660
third-party ones that work fine.

00:41:32.660 —> 00:41:33.760
It’s the same code.

00:41:33.760 —> 00:41:34.600
You can download third-party keyboards

00:41:34.600 —> 00:41:37.660
that work in full screen, full-size mode.

00:41:37.660 —> 00:41:39.100
It makes sense, but to be swiping,

00:41:39.100 —> 00:41:43.160
if you were in landscape mode on an iPad Pro,

00:41:43.160 —> 00:41:46.800
to be swiping from side to… you’re basically doing a painting, yeah.

00:41:46.800 —> 00:41:50.840
You’re doing impressionist paintings at that point.

00:41:50.840 —> 00:41:55.000
We all have swords.

00:41:55.000 —> 00:41:58.440
It’s not that bad on the iPad Mini, though.

00:41:58.440 —> 00:42:00.320
Right, well…

00:42:00.320 —> 00:42:05.560
You’re a mini-man. But even in portrait mode, though, I think you could get away with this.

00:42:05.560 —> 00:42:07.640
Alright, what else we got?

00:42:07.640 —> 00:42:11.180
You apparently… I thought you talked about your new Sonos last time.

00:42:11.180 —> 00:42:12.480
You did, you talked about it.

00:42:12.480 —> 00:42:13.320
I thought I got more.

00:42:13.320 —> 00:42:14.820
It’s in the freaking, oh.

00:42:14.820 —> 00:42:16.820
Okay, Marco.

00:42:16.820 —> 00:42:19.180
Got a new Sonos kit.

00:42:19.180 —> 00:42:22.700
So now I, not counting the basement,

00:42:22.700 —> 00:42:26.180
I have one Sonos with the speaker.

00:42:26.180 —> 00:42:27.420
Sonos makes a basement?

00:42:27.420 —> 00:42:29.180
No, they don’t make a basement.

00:42:29.180 —> 00:42:30.540
I have Sonos speakers in the basement,

00:42:30.540 —> 00:42:33.620
but I don’t have the newer Sonos speakers.

00:42:33.620 —> 00:42:34.820
Are they on the ceiling of the basement?

00:42:34.820 —> 00:42:36.220
No, it’s just sitting on a shelf.

00:42:36.220 —> 00:42:40.860
But what I do have is I have the Sonos voice assistant

00:42:40.860 —> 00:42:46.100
installed on the top three floors of my house, which is really, really nice.

00:42:46.100 —> 00:42:48.860
I paid an extra 20 bucks or something like that.

00:42:48.860 —> 00:42:54.420
So I can just say, “Hey, Dingus, group this room with that room.”

00:42:54.420 —> 00:42:58.060
And so like if I have something playing on the first floor and I hobble my way up to

00:42:58.060 —> 00:43:02.460
the second floor and it’s not playing there, I can just yell to the one in the bathroom,

00:43:02.460 —> 00:43:04.900
”Hey, group bathroom two with living room.”

00:43:04.900 —> 00:43:07.780
And then it starts, you know, the music follows around.

00:43:07.780 —> 00:43:10.020
I don’t want to group my bathroom with my living room.

00:43:10.020 —> 00:43:14.180
So is it its own thing or are you using…

00:43:14.180 —> 00:43:15.180
Its own thing.

00:43:15.180 —> 00:43:16.760
So what is its name?

00:43:16.760 —> 00:43:17.760
It must have a name.

00:43:17.760 —> 00:43:18.760
Sonos.

00:43:18.760 —> 00:43:19.760
It’s “Hey Sonos.”

00:43:19.760 —> 00:43:20.760
Oh, that’s so lame.

00:43:20.760 —> 00:43:22.060
You can’t name it after the device it’s on.

00:43:22.060 —> 00:43:23.060
Everyone knows that?

00:43:23.060 —> 00:43:28.340
Well, you refer to it as the living room or whatnot.

00:43:28.340 —> 00:43:30.660
So you say, “Hey, living room?”

00:43:30.660 —> 00:43:33.840
No, you say, “Hey Sonos, do something in living room.”

00:43:33.840 —> 00:43:37.260
That’s what I mean, but most of the other companies, their assistant has a different

00:43:37.260 —> 00:43:38.660
name than whatever device they have.

00:43:38.660 —> 00:43:39.660
A word.

00:43:39.660 —> 00:43:43.560
with the Amazon stuff you can say, “Hey Echo.”

00:43:43.560 —> 00:43:46.140
I don’t understand why you can’t,

00:43:46.140 —> 00:43:49.300
in this iteration of the assistants,

00:43:49.300 —> 00:43:52.300
why you can’t name the assistant anything that you want.

00:43:52.300 —> 00:43:54.720
Because it’s completely voice recognition.

00:43:54.720 —> 00:43:56.700
There’s no reason why it can’t.

00:43:56.700 —> 00:44:01.140
I don’t, branding, is that it?

00:44:01.140 —> 00:44:05.900
But why would Amazon let you do different ones?

00:44:05.900 —> 00:44:10.900
you can call it Amazon, A-word, Echo, computer, Ziggy.

00:44:10.900 —> 00:44:15.260
Yeah, so you have options.

00:44:15.260 —> 00:44:16.740
Well, actually I take that back though,

00:44:16.740 —> 00:44:18.620
because it has to listen for it.

00:44:18.620 —> 00:44:22.580
It has to be really, really tuned into that wake word.

00:44:22.580 —> 00:44:24.080
Yeah, but you could record it.

00:44:24.080 —> 00:44:26.140
It would have to get a sample of your recording.

00:44:26.140 —> 00:44:29.540
The only way I can contact Peter on any of those devices

00:44:29.540 —> 00:44:30.940
is he’s now Peter the Greek.

00:44:30.940 —> 00:44:31.780
(laughing)

00:44:31.780 —> 00:44:32.620
Peter the Greek.

00:44:32.620 —> 00:44:33.440
Peter the Greek.

00:44:33.440 —> 00:44:34.700
Sounds like a mobster name, doesn’t it?

00:44:34.700 —> 00:44:39.860
It sounds like Peter should be knee-capping other people instead of himself.

00:44:39.860 —> 00:44:44.220
Oh, it was like, you know, Jimmy the Greek, now I’m Peter the Greeks.

00:44:44.220 —> 00:44:46.700
You’re not supposed to practice knee-capping yourself, Peter.

00:44:46.700 —> 00:44:48.420
That’s not how it works.

00:44:48.420 —> 00:44:51.420
So are we, should we talk about that or do you still have more?

00:44:51.420 —> 00:44:52.580
About what, knee-capping myself?

00:44:52.580 —> 00:44:57.060
Uh, well, no, I just, the one thing that is kind of cool, and I did not notice this.

00:44:57.060 —> 00:45:03.820
I mean, I knew it sounded kind of familiar, but Gus Fring, Giancarlo Esposito, uh, of

00:45:03.820 —> 00:45:08.020
of, you know, Los Pollos Hermanos from Breaking Bad

00:45:08.020 —> 00:45:10.020
is the voice of Sonos.

00:45:10.020 —> 00:45:11.540
So it’s pretty cool.

00:45:11.540 —> 00:45:15.380
You know, so it’s just, and it’s, I do like the Sonos.

00:45:15.380 —> 00:45:17.260
Like I said, in the previous episode,

00:45:17.260 —> 00:45:18.820
it doesn’t try to do anything.

00:45:18.820 —> 00:45:21.300
It can’t tell you the weather, can’t check your email.

00:45:21.300 —> 00:45:22.920
It can’t add things to your shopping list.

00:45:22.920 —> 00:45:26.460
It can just control Sonos and all the work is done

00:45:26.460 —> 00:45:27.860
on box, on-prem.

00:45:27.860 —> 00:45:29.820
So you’re not sending stuff out to the cloud,

00:45:29.820 —> 00:45:31.140
which is, you know, it’s kind of,

00:45:31.140 —> 00:45:36.140
Hey Sonos, group third floor one with third floor two.

00:45:36.140 —> 00:45:38.420
It’s kind of a cool ceiling view you have there.

00:45:38.420 —> 00:45:41.040
Yes, that’s ‘cause I’m using the built-in camera

00:45:41.040 —> 00:45:42.600
on my MacBook pointing up.

00:45:42.600 —> 00:45:45.540
Anyway, there you go.

00:45:45.540 —> 00:45:47.620
All right, what else were we gonna talk about?

00:45:47.620 —> 00:45:49.180
I don’t think I have any Gus,

00:45:49.180 —> 00:45:50.900
I don’t have any Gus Fring soundtracks.

00:45:50.900 —> 00:45:52.020
I’ve got Hector’s Bell.

00:45:52.020 —> 00:45:53.220
(bell ringing)

00:45:53.220 —> 00:45:54.900
I don’t know that, I don’t know Hector’s Bell,

00:45:54.900 —> 00:45:57.260
but you should put it in there if you have it.

00:45:57.260 —> 00:45:58.660
You don’t know Hector Salamanca’s Bell?

00:45:58.660 —> 00:46:00.380
I don’t think so.

00:46:00.380 —> 00:46:02.500
The guy in the wheelchair? Ding ding ding ding ding.

00:46:02.500 —> 00:46:03.340
Oh yeah.

00:46:03.340 —> 00:46:04.180
Ding ding ding ding.

00:46:04.180 —> 00:46:06.820
It’s been so long since I watched the HUD.

00:46:06.820 —> 00:46:09.220
Okay. I get it. I get it.

00:46:09.220 —> 00:46:11.800
I get it. Hector’s Bell. I like it.

00:46:11.800 —> 00:46:15.540
So we talked a little bit about Mastodo or Mastodon’t,

00:46:15.540 —> 00:46:18.000
but we just basically talked about how, you know,

00:46:18.000 —> 00:46:20.600
it’s kind of hard to get set up with.

00:46:20.600 —> 00:46:24.460
That said, I have heard from more than one

00:46:24.460 —> 00:46:29.140
reputable infosec community person

00:46:29.140 —> 00:46:34.140
who is saying that there is a mass Twitter exodus

00:46:34.140 —> 00:46:37.760
as far as the information security community goes?

00:46:37.760 —> 00:46:38.680
Yeah, I could tell you that.

00:46:38.680 —> 00:46:40.120
They went pouring into-

00:46:40.120 —> 00:46:43.000
Info, was it infosec.exchange or?

00:46:43.000 —> 00:46:45.520
Yeah, a lot of them went to mastodon.social initially,

00:46:45.520 —> 00:46:47.840
but there is an infosec exchange one.

00:46:47.840 —> 00:46:49.440
And actually a lot of them are on that.

00:46:49.440 —> 00:46:51.440
So I wonder if I can just like by default,

00:46:51.440 —> 00:46:53.600
follow everyone on there or something.

00:46:53.600 —> 00:46:55.400
I need to go and check all these things out

00:46:55.400 —> 00:46:57.560
and see what’s going on, so.

00:46:57.560 —> 00:46:59.680
Stick your Mastodon trunk up there.

00:46:59.680 —> 00:47:01.720
Stick your trunk, yes, exactly.

00:47:01.720 —> 00:47:06.720
So, so, so I did set up Mastodon post accounts.

00:47:06.720 —> 00:47:09.960
I set up a Nikolaidis and a Paradigm,

00:47:09.960 —> 00:47:11.920
maybe Paradigm CC now, I don’t even remember.

00:47:11.920 —> 00:47:13.440
Yeah, I have bad news for you, Peter.

00:47:13.440 —> 00:47:16.720
Cross-posting is considered gauche.

00:47:16.720 —> 00:47:19.000
That’s another thing about the culture war.

00:47:19.000 —> 00:47:20.360
You’re a cross poster guy.

00:47:20.360 —> 00:47:22.360
Like you will cross post from one service to another

00:47:22.360 —> 00:47:24.800
and you never go to the service you’re cross-posting to

00:47:24.800 —> 00:47:26.660
to interact with people or see what’s going on.

00:47:26.660 —> 00:47:28.500
You just use it as a bullhorn.

00:47:28.500 —> 00:47:29.820
Well, I did.

00:47:29.820 —> 00:47:30.820
I did.

00:47:30.820 —> 00:47:32.220
I don’t do that anymore.

00:47:32.220 —> 00:47:33.540
Nobody likes bullhorn people.

00:47:33.540 —> 00:47:35.620
Yeah, but that was like the holy grail.

00:47:35.620 —> 00:47:36.900
They like people they can talk to.

00:47:36.900 —> 00:47:42.140
That was like the holy grail, but you could respond to any of those posts.

00:47:42.140 —> 00:47:45.540
But do you think that other people are actually going to try to interact with somebody that

00:47:45.540 —> 00:47:47.180
they notice is just a bullhorn?

00:47:47.180 —> 00:47:48.180
No.

00:47:48.180 —> 00:47:49.180
It depends on what they’re saying.

00:47:49.180 —> 00:47:50.180
They’re not going to follow them.

00:47:50.180 —> 00:47:51.180
They’re not going to interact with them.

00:47:51.180 —> 00:47:52.180
No, no, no.

00:47:52.180 —> 00:47:53.420
No one gives a…

00:47:53.420 —> 00:47:56.860
I think you may not want to follow something, but-

00:47:56.860 —> 00:47:59.020
I think a lot of people might not.

00:47:59.020 —> 00:48:03.420
You might be right. But if I was to say, you know, to post something like,

00:48:03.420 —> 00:48:10.220
”Hey, I just sold my business and blah, blah, blah. And you know, we are friends on Facebook,

00:48:10.220 —> 00:48:16.060
friends on, you know, followers on Twitter, jiku buddies from back in the day. If we actually know

00:48:16.060 —> 00:48:21.740
each other, why do you care?” Like, “Oh my God, Peter posted that from Twitter. Unfollow!”

00:48:22.380 —> 00:48:24.380
That doesn’t make any sense.

00:48:24.380 —> 00:48:28.300
It’s not that it’s just what i’m saying is people that don’t know you aren’t gonna follow you.

00:48:28.300 —> 00:48:32.140
Oh people that don’t know me that’s fine, but whatever if people don’t know me they don’t.

00:48:32.140 —> 00:48:35.420
But the whole beauty of twitter is that it’s asynchronous it’s not facebook.

00:48:35.420 —> 00:48:38.700
That’s the thing I hate about facebook is it’s synchronous only.

00:48:38.700 —> 00:48:41.500
So you have to follow all those idiots from high school that you

00:48:41.500 —> 00:48:43.740
grew up to get away from on purpose.

00:48:43.740 —> 00:48:46.220
Well luckily we haven’t been doing that for quite a while now though.

00:48:46.220 —> 00:48:48.140
Right yeah that’s true.

00:48:48.140 —> 00:48:54.700
Yeah, I guess my biggest thing now is though is I had curated a bunch of my followers on Twitter.

00:48:54.700 —> 00:49:00.860
So I was trying to follow security minded people, but even then there’s there, they would post a lot

00:49:00.860 —> 00:49:07.500
of non-security related stuff, you know, so it’s almost like they’re human beings with other

00:49:07.500 —> 00:49:15.820
interests. Exactly. Which is great. But I want to just like get a curated list of genuine security

00:49:15.820 —> 00:49:21.580
stuff, right? I don’t want to use, I want to be able to use Twitter for security news and be able

00:49:21.580 —> 00:49:26.540
to look in. I don’t want to, I don’t want to look for a stream, like if I’m feeling social and I

00:49:26.540 —> 00:49:31.260
just want to like socialize with folks and stuff, sure, show me people involved in information

00:49:31.260 —> 00:49:37.180
security, but I also want a way to just show me the latest ODA, show me the latest exploits. What

00:49:37.180 —> 00:49:43.500
is APT28 up to today? That’s the kind of stuff I want to see. So what is PT Elon Musk up to today?

00:49:43.500 —> 00:49:51.420
Oh, my goodness, don’t tell me. Brother. But I’m using Twitter less and less these days.

00:49:51.420 —> 00:49:56.380
Like right now, honestly, I do not recall the last time I manually posted anything.

00:49:56.380 —> 00:50:01.500
The only thing I can remember is like it was retweeting or posting anytime we have a new

00:50:01.500 —> 00:50:08.300
podcast episode or I put up a new blog post. And that’s about it. So, you know, if people want to

00:50:08.300 —> 00:50:10.780
follow me, hey, I’m over there, whatever. So.

00:50:10.780 —> 00:50:17.900
Do we want toso uh on FwB website we’ll put uhso I have my Mastodon links on the

00:50:17.900 —> 00:50:22.060
friends page. We’ll put your Mastodon links on the friends page. I posted mine um I posted a

00:50:22.060 —> 00:50:28.380
hello world uh toot on Mastodon from both of my new accounts and that’s all I’ve done.

00:50:28.380 —> 00:50:33.660
Bunch of tutors. I don’t think I have any followers. I am certainly not yet following

00:50:33.660 —> 00:50:39.980
anybody but I would definitely follow uh you know you Scott and FwB and and heck who maybe

00:50:39.980 —> 00:50:42.180
Maybe we need a Blurring the Lines account, etc.

00:50:42.180 —> 00:50:43.180
I don’t have a FwB account.

00:50:43.180 —> 00:50:46.880
Well, we should, because you can’t cross-post from Twitter.

00:50:46.880 —> 00:50:48.820
We should set up a FwB Mastodon server.

00:50:48.820 —> 00:50:49.820
We should?

00:50:49.820 —> 00:50:50.820
Oh, oh god.

00:50:50.820 —> 00:50:51.820
A server?

00:50:51.820 —> 00:50:52.820
Oh my god.

00:50:52.820 —> 00:50:53.820
But you have to pay for this one.

00:50:53.820 —> 00:50:56.900
I was going to say, if you want that, that’s all you.

00:50:56.900 —> 00:50:58.900
Oh my god.

00:50:58.900 —> 00:51:01.860
I’ll administer it, but I want you to pay for it.

00:51:01.860 —> 00:51:03.900
You sound like my ex-wife.

00:51:03.900 —> 00:51:08.060
wife. So she wouldn’t even do the administration part of it.

00:51:08.060 —> 00:51:14.180
I was about to say, I don’t sound like her cause I’m sitting here talking to you.

00:51:14.180 —> 00:51:17.180
Fair enough.

00:51:17.180 —> 00:51:23.500
So Peter, are we ever gonna talk about the mastodon in the room?

00:51:23.500 —> 00:51:26.860
The elephant in the room? Yeah. The not fun part of running.

00:51:26.860 —> 00:51:33.060
So yesterday I was out for a standard

00:51:33.260 —> 00:51:36.780
aerobic run, something that I have been doing

00:51:36.780 —> 00:51:40.380
pretty much every week for a long time.

00:51:40.380 —> 00:51:44.740
And I did notice the night before,

00:51:44.740 —> 00:51:47.580
so the night before I had done a,

00:51:47.580 —> 00:51:50.220
I think it was intervals or it was just a recovery run,

00:51:50.220 —> 00:51:51.700
you know, nothing major.

00:51:51.700 —> 00:51:54.420
And I did notice in a yoga class I was teaching,

00:51:54.420 —> 00:51:56.500
I felt a little bit of cramping

00:51:56.500 —> 00:51:59.860
like in my left calf or hamstring, nothing major.

00:51:59.860 —> 00:52:00.780
You know, I was able to just like,

00:52:00.780 —> 00:52:02.940
oh, let me just stretch out of that.

00:52:02.940 —> 00:52:06.440
Okay, got moving on, finished the class, everything was fine.

00:52:06.440 —> 00:52:09.440
Went out yesterday and I felt a little stiff.

00:52:09.440 —> 00:52:12.320
Both of my knees felt a little stiff.

00:52:12.320 —> 00:52:14.040
And now it’s normal for my right knee

00:52:14.040 —> 00:52:15.320
to feel a little bit stiff,

00:52:15.320 —> 00:52:17.720
especially after I’ve been doing trails and stuff.

00:52:17.720 —> 00:52:18.880
So that’s why I wear a breeze

00:52:18.880 —> 00:52:21.800
to kind of keep the patella in place and stuff.

00:52:21.800 —> 00:52:23.800
’Cause my right knee has always been wonky

00:52:23.800 —> 00:52:26.240
from since I’ve been like 13 years old.

00:52:26.240 —> 00:52:27.360
So I’m used to that,

00:52:27.360 —> 00:52:30.080
but now my left was feeling a little bit like that too.

00:52:30.080 —> 00:52:32.240
I’m going out on my run, you know,

00:52:32.240 —> 00:52:35.520
and my goal was 70 minutes in the aerobic zone.

00:52:35.520 —> 00:52:38.480
Got out, I was gone for about 40 minutes,

00:52:38.480 —> 00:52:40.720
and I happened to be going through this place

00:52:40.720 —> 00:52:45.720
called Assembly Row, where the local Warby Parker store is.

00:52:45.720 —> 00:52:48.500
And last week, I had brought my glasses in

00:52:48.500 —> 00:52:50.320
to exchange them and have them replaced

00:52:50.320 —> 00:52:52.120
’cause the prescription was wrong.

00:52:52.120 —> 00:52:53.640
And I just happened to think, I was like,

00:52:53.640 —> 00:52:57.160
they didn’t call me, I wonder if my new glasses are in.

00:52:57.160 —> 00:52:59.840
So I pulled out my trusty Apple Watch, which I was wearing,

00:52:59.840 —> 00:53:01.400
opened up my email, and sure enough,

00:53:01.400 —> 00:53:06.200
like “good news, your glasses are in”. I’m like “oh, perfect”. So, I run into the store,

00:53:06.200 —> 00:53:10.840
like literally go running right in through the stop. I was like “hi, can I make an appointment

00:53:10.840 —> 00:53:13.880
to pick up my new glasses?” The woman says “yep, we’ll put you on a wait list”. I said “great”.

00:53:13.880 —> 00:53:17.960
I said “can I like you know go around like stay” and she’s like “yeah, are you training for

00:53:17.960 —> 00:53:22.520
something?” “yeah, I’m training”. I’ll just go do laps. So, I go out and I do laps.

00:53:22.520 —> 00:53:26.600
About five minutes later, I’m running around you know this place,

00:53:27.400 —> 00:53:29.880
my left knee starts to hurt a little more.

00:53:29.880 —> 00:53:31.680
And I was like, wow, that’s a little weird.

00:53:31.680 —> 00:53:35.200
And I had just like put on this burst of speed,

00:53:35.200 —> 00:53:37.920
to go through this little, almost an obstacle course

00:53:37.920 —> 00:53:42.080
near the latest hospital there.

00:53:42.080 —> 00:53:43.920
I was like, all right, well, I’ll just take a break.

00:53:43.920 —> 00:53:45.080
Let me see what’s going on.

00:53:45.080 —> 00:53:46.080
So I stopped.

00:53:46.080 —> 00:53:50.640
So I was about, I had run for about 40 or so minutes.

00:53:50.640 —> 00:53:52.960
So I stopped and I’m hanging out in the store.

00:53:52.960 —> 00:53:53.800
I’m doing fine.

00:53:53.800 —> 00:53:54.740
They give me the glasses.

00:53:54.740 —> 00:53:57.040
I wear them on for a few minutes before leaving.

00:53:57.040 —> 00:53:58.340
They feel fine.

00:53:58.340 —> 00:54:00.080
Like, ‘cause the old ones were giving me headaches

00:54:00.080 —> 00:54:01.720
in very short order.

00:54:01.720 —> 00:54:03.440
So I was like, well, I’ll just wear them out

00:54:03.440 —> 00:54:05.240
and I’ll wear them while I run home.

00:54:05.240 —> 00:54:06.120
So, okay, great.

00:54:06.120 —> 00:54:08.640
So I run and I’m going out 20 miles,

00:54:08.640 —> 00:54:11.520
20 minutes later, about two miles away.

00:54:11.520 —> 00:54:14.320
I’m still going, everything’s going just fine.

00:54:14.320 —> 00:54:16.260
You know, my knees are still a little stiff.

00:54:16.260 —> 00:54:17.120
There’s nothing wrong.

00:54:17.120 —> 00:54:20.900
And then there’s this pop on the left knee.

00:54:20.900 —> 00:54:23.440
And I’m like, whoa, hobble, hobble, hobble, stop.

00:54:23.440 —> 00:54:25.520
Like, what the hell?

00:54:25.520 —> 00:54:26.480
Try to walk it off.

00:54:26.480 —> 00:54:29.240
Nope, nope, this is not walking off.

00:54:29.240 —> 00:54:34.120
And I was just running on flat, perfectly grooved pavement.

00:54:34.120 —> 00:54:36.720
Nothing fan, I wasn’t doing parkour,

00:54:36.720 —> 00:54:39.000
it wasn’t on ice, wasn’t nothing.

00:54:39.000 —> 00:54:42.140
Just regular old aerobic running.

00:54:42.140 —> 00:54:47.140
I only had my watch with me so I could make phone calls,

00:54:47.140 —> 00:54:51.680
but I did not have my phone, so I could not call for a Lyft.

00:54:51.680 —> 00:54:53.040
I did not have my wallet,

00:54:53.040 —> 00:54:54.960
so I could not get on the Boston

00:54:54.960 —> 00:54:56.920
public transportation system.

00:54:56.920 —> 00:55:00.800
So I did make one call, friend of mine, my running buddy.

00:55:00.800 —> 00:55:02.640
I was like, I don’t even know if you’re at home today

00:55:02.640 —> 00:55:07.380
or at work today, but if you’re around, you know, SOS

00:55:07.380 —> 00:55:09.560
and you got an automated text message back,

00:55:09.560 —> 00:55:11.400
like can’t talk right now, call later.

00:55:11.400 —> 00:55:13.040
I’m like, “Shit.”

00:55:13.040 —> 00:55:16.560
So I hobbled home, which was a mile left.

00:55:16.560 —> 00:55:20.120
I took the shortest route that I could and got home,

00:55:20.120 —> 00:55:21.720
immediately took a hot bath.

00:55:21.720 —> 00:55:24.960
Then I started icing it, taking painkillers.

00:55:24.960 —> 00:55:27.580
I was pretty miserable all night.

00:55:27.580 —> 00:55:29.320
Did not sleep very well at all.

00:55:29.320 —> 00:55:31.420
Could not take stairs.

00:55:31.420 —> 00:55:33.460
This morning, and just before we started to record,

00:55:33.460 —> 00:55:36.180
I actually was able to take the stairs slowly

00:55:36.180 —> 00:55:39.120
using both legs without any pain.

00:55:39.120 —> 00:55:41.400
So I take that as a really good sign

00:55:41.400 —> 00:55:44.000
because I think if it was a genuine tear,

00:55:44.000 —> 00:55:45.840
I don’t think I would be, you know,

00:55:45.840 —> 00:55:47.960
anywhere like within 15 feet of the stairs.

00:55:47.960 —> 00:55:49.120
And they’re right back, they’re right there,

00:55:49.120 —> 00:55:50.440
they’re like 10 feet away.

00:55:50.440 —> 00:55:52.540
So I did make an appointment with a PT

00:55:52.540 —> 00:55:55.420
and also with my PCP’s office on Monday

00:55:55.420 —> 00:55:56.700
to just have it looked at.

00:55:56.700 —> 00:55:59.760
And they’ll probably gonna want x-rays and whatnot.

00:55:59.760 —> 00:56:02.140
What almost always happens is I always have some kind

00:56:02.140 —> 00:56:07.140
of injury or expensive deductible challenging event

00:56:07.140 —> 00:56:09.620
at the end of the year.

00:56:09.620 —> 00:56:11.780
So of course this happens, you know,

00:56:11.780 —> 00:56:13.540
I’ll probably get an MRI or something

00:56:13.540 —> 00:56:15.580
which will get me like halfway to my deductible.

00:56:15.580 —> 00:56:19.000
And then they’ll probably say, go start physical therapy.

00:56:19.000 —> 00:56:21.980
and then I’ll get about halfway through physical therapy.

00:56:21.980 —> 00:56:23.260
It’ll be all out of pocket.

00:56:23.260 —> 00:56:24.940
And then January 1st, we’ll come around

00:56:24.940 —> 00:56:26.320
and I’ll keep paying out of pocket

00:56:26.320 —> 00:56:28.800
and not realize the benefits of my insurance.

00:56:28.800 —> 00:56:30.320
’Cause that’s how things work.

00:56:30.320 —> 00:56:32.240
So it sounds like you have a pretty high deductible.

00:56:32.240 —> 00:56:33.480
Do you have an HSA?

00:56:33.480 —> 00:56:34.520
I have both, yeah.

00:56:34.520 —> 00:56:35.840
I have an HSA.

00:56:35.840 —> 00:56:38.680
The reason I have the high deductible is

00:56:38.680 —> 00:56:40.780
because I pay for a higher plan

00:56:40.780 —> 00:56:43.200
that lets me choose anything.

00:56:43.200 —> 00:56:45.360
So I buy my health insurance through the hospital

00:56:45.360 —> 00:56:47.040
that I work for up in New Hampshire

00:56:47.040 —> 00:56:49.640
’cause I negotiated a sweet gig when I deal with them.

00:56:49.640 —> 00:56:54.640
But I pay extra in the form, like my premiums are the same,

00:56:54.640 —> 00:56:56.540
but what they really want me to do

00:56:56.540 —> 00:56:58.080
is get all my care through them.

00:56:58.080 —> 00:57:01.500
Well, newsflash, they’re two hours away on a good day.

00:57:01.500 —> 00:57:02.720
I don’t wanna drive two hours

00:57:02.720 —> 00:57:04.440
every time I need to see a doctor.

00:57:04.440 —> 00:57:07.960
So I pay extra so I can go to like Mass General Health,

00:57:07.960 —> 00:57:11.340
MGH down here or something a lot closer.

00:57:11.340 —> 00:57:14.500
As a result though, my deductible goes way higher.

00:57:14.500 —> 00:57:16.860
So yes, I do have an HSA.

00:57:16.860 —> 00:57:21.420
I never use it. I always just bank it all like, you know, in the retirement plan.

00:57:21.420 —> 00:57:25.620
So it’s always got $2,000 or whatever in there just sitting there waiting.

00:57:25.620 —> 00:57:28.380
But I treat that as another retirement plan,

00:57:28.380 —> 00:57:31.740
which I try not to touch unless it’s a genuine emergency.

00:57:31.740 —> 00:57:36.900
Right. But doesn’t you, every time you get paid money goes into the HSA.

00:57:36.900 —> 00:57:38.220
Correct. Up until.

00:57:38.220 —> 00:57:39.580
So how does it sit at two?

00:57:39.580 —> 00:57:41.320
You can put,

00:57:41.320 —> 00:57:45.980
you can store away up to 3000 something per year and then anything left

00:57:46.000 —> 00:57:49.860
over on top of that 2000 goes into a retirement fund.

00:57:49.860 —> 00:57:51.740
So you basically have, you funded that.

00:57:51.740 —> 00:57:55.860
It’s always, mine is always sitting at $2,000 of cash

00:57:55.860 —> 00:58:00.820
ready for expenses, which frankly is not much, you know.

00:58:00.820 —> 00:58:02.960
See, mine’s a little higher because it’s a family thing.

00:58:02.960 —> 00:58:04.900
So it’s like 3,500 or something.

00:58:04.900 —> 00:58:07.900
That’s the amount that I can contribute every year

00:58:07.900 —> 00:58:10.940
but I have to keep a minimum of 2000 in it.

00:58:10.940 —> 00:58:13.580
So it’s like the 1,000, 1,500 over,

00:58:13.580 —> 00:58:15.060
that can go into an IRA.

00:58:15.900 —> 00:58:20.220
We don’t have that restriction, but we never fall super low. But I also,

00:58:20.220 —> 00:58:23.500
by the time I’ve contributed my maximum amount for the year,

00:58:23.500 —> 00:58:25.820
I don’t have that quite that amount in there.

00:58:25.820 —> 00:58:28.820
Cause we usually have some expense like something for my daughter or some,

00:58:28.820 —> 00:58:31.820
you know, I take vision stuff out of that dental stuff out of it.

00:58:31.820 —> 00:58:36.180
Anything that ductible hasn’t hit yet. So yeah. Okay. I gotcha. Yeah.

00:58:36.180 —> 00:58:38.900
We don’t have the minimum thing that I know.

00:58:38.900 —> 00:58:39.980
I think that’s federal.

00:58:39.980 —> 00:58:43.220
I don’t, I’ve never had,

00:58:43.340 —> 00:58:46.620
But I know I’ve gone below $2,000 in one specific year

00:58:46.620 —> 00:58:51.620
when I had a surgery and no, no penalty, buddy.

00:58:51.620 —> 00:58:53.620
I don’t think there’s a minimum.

00:58:53.620 —> 00:58:55.380
There’s no penalty for going below.

00:58:55.380 —> 00:58:59.780
What I’m just saying in mines, my plan, yeah,

00:58:59.780 —> 00:59:03.740
my plan, you have to hold that much and anything extra

00:59:03.740 —> 00:59:06.140
by default just goes into an IRA

00:59:06.140 —> 00:59:07.740
once you’ve contributed more.

00:59:07.740 —> 00:59:09.380
What I’m saying is I don’t have to have

00:59:09.380 —> 00:59:10.940
a minimum amount in there.

00:59:10.940 —> 00:59:11.760
Okay.

00:59:11.760 —> 00:59:14.460
They don’t tell me you can’t go below $2,000 in this account.

00:59:14.460 —> 00:59:15.460
But do you have a-

00:59:15.460 —> 00:59:16.460
That’s what you’re saying.

00:59:16.460 —> 00:59:17.860
But do you have a retirement plan also?

00:59:17.860 —> 00:59:19.460
Yeah, separate.

00:59:19.460 —> 00:59:20.460
Okay.

00:59:20.460 —> 00:59:21.700
No, tied to your HSA.

00:59:21.700 —> 00:59:22.700
No, no, no.

00:59:22.700 —> 00:59:23.700
Okay, you’re not understanding.

00:59:23.700 —> 00:59:24.880
That is not what I am saying.

00:59:24.880 —> 00:59:30.300
What I am saying is I can contribute up to 3,000 something per year.

00:59:30.300 —> 00:59:31.300
Yes.

00:59:31.300 —> 00:59:38.880
And any time that amount that has contributed has gone over 2,000, anything over starts going

00:59:38.880 —> 00:59:40.920
into an IRA.

00:59:40.920 —> 00:59:43.200
You’re using the word minimum backwards then.

00:59:43.200 —> 00:59:44.920
2000 maximum goes into that account.

00:59:44.920 —> 00:59:47.060
Anything over that goes into retirement.

00:59:47.060 —> 00:59:50.540
So I am maintaining a 2000 minimum to use your words,

00:59:50.540 —> 00:59:55.060
but anything over that gets deposited into an IRA.

00:59:55.060 —> 00:59:58.520
You’re maintaining a 2000 minimum by your own choice.

00:59:58.520 —> 00:59:59.360
Yes, that’s part of the entire—

00:59:59.360 —> 01:00:00.720
You’re maintaining a 2000 minimum

01:00:00.720 —> 01:00:01.660
because you’re not spending it.

01:00:01.660 —> 01:00:02.560
It’s not a minimum.

01:00:02.560 —> 01:00:04.380
It’s not an account minimum.

01:00:04.380 —> 01:00:05.880
Okay, call it a maximum then.

01:00:05.880 —> 01:00:07.080
Whatever, there’s 2000—

01:00:07.080 —> 01:00:07.920
It’s a maximum.

01:00:07.920 —> 01:00:09.620
Whenever I go over $2000, When it hits two grand—

01:00:09.620 —> 01:00:11.360
the rest goes into an IRA.

01:00:11.360 —> 01:00:12.200
That’s a maximum.

01:00:12.200 —> 01:00:13.820
2000 stays in there.

01:00:13.820 —> 01:00:15.980
We need some graph paper here and I’ll show you.

01:00:15.980 —> 01:00:20.140
But I can’t put any, no, I need a minimum of $2,000

01:00:20.140 —> 01:00:22.700
before it can go into the IRA.

01:00:22.700 —> 01:00:26.060
I can’t just say, don’t maintain any money.

01:00:26.060 —> 01:00:27.180
So that is the minimum.

01:00:27.180 —> 01:00:28.020
No, of course not.

01:00:28.020 —> 01:00:29.500
That’s the word minimum.

01:00:29.500 —> 01:00:32.260
Yeah, because it won’t go in unless it’s over $2,000.

01:00:32.260 —> 01:00:34.100
So you need a minimum of $2,000

01:00:34.100 —> 01:00:36.640
and then you start investing the rest.

01:00:36.640 —> 01:00:38.400
Okay, that’s a weird plan.

01:00:38.400 —> 01:00:40.760
That’s basically an HSA that you can’t friggin’ use.

01:00:40.760 —> 01:00:43.140
Well, you can use $2,000 of it.

01:00:43.140 —> 01:00:45.480
No, because then money won’t go into your IRA

01:00:45.480 —> 01:00:46.320
and you’ll get all freaked out about it.

01:00:46.320 —> 01:00:49.640
No, it’s an HSA that you can’t invest on if you use it,

01:00:49.640 —> 01:00:52.040
but if you don’t use it, you get to invest it.

01:00:52.040 —> 01:00:53.700
Yeah, mine’s always going in.

01:00:53.700 —> 01:00:55.560
I’ve got like $9,000 in mine

01:00:55.560 —> 01:00:58.800
because we hit our deductible every year as a family.

01:00:58.800 —> 01:01:00.720
Yeah, Adam’s way is better than Peter’s way.

01:01:00.720 —> 01:01:02.360
You need to talk to Adam about this one, Peter.

01:01:02.360 —> 01:01:03.680
Talk to Adam about that?

01:01:03.680 —> 01:01:04.520
Okay.

01:01:04.520 —> 01:01:07.160
Yeah, so you need to separate your investment life

01:01:07.160 —> 01:01:09.460
from your health insurance life.

01:01:09.460 —> 01:01:10.520
This is what I’m talking about.

01:01:10.520 —> 01:01:12.480
Your retirement life and your health insurance life

01:01:12.480 —> 01:01:15.400
need to be separated here because combining them,

01:01:15.400 —> 01:01:17.520
you think you’re getting the best of both worlds.

01:01:17.520 —> 01:01:19.760
You’re kneecapping both, to use a phrase

01:01:19.760 —> 01:01:20.600
that you might be familiar with.

01:01:20.600 —> 01:01:23.000
Thank you, thank you so much.

01:01:23.000 —> 01:01:26.920
So what would happen is I generally would not spend

01:01:26.920 —> 01:01:29.000
the money in my HSA.

01:01:29.000 —> 01:01:31.600
That was what was going on.

01:01:31.600 —> 01:01:33.680
’Cause in most years I don’t need that.

01:01:33.680 —> 01:01:35.160
I don’t want to be rude.

01:01:36.000 —> 01:01:41.760
and probably you won’t and you don’t have children so that helps but you are getting

01:01:41.760 —> 01:01:45.480
you’re not getting younger let’s put it that way you’re not Jonathan Winters in Mork and

01:01:45.480 —> 01:01:51.140
Mindy you’re not going backwards you weren’t born from an egg fully grown and now you’re

01:01:51.140 —> 01:01:55.280
going downwards to be a baby I don’t understand Scott can you keep going please give me some

01:01:55.280 —> 01:01:58.780
more yeah you’re gonna have more you know this injury that you just had get used to

01:01:58.780 —> 01:02:03.020
it buddy it’s not the first yeah I get that I can’t believe it it’s not the last I get

01:02:03.020 —> 01:02:06.980
that it’s not the first and it’s not the last no I understand that the days of

01:02:06.980 —> 01:02:11.340
never using your HSA are going to the clock is ticking I’m not gonna say

01:02:11.340 —> 01:02:18.940
they’ve ended now yeah yeah yeah no I get that I get that pretty soon I will

01:02:18.940 —> 01:02:25.860
just have two people on my HSA few years nice sit relatively soon it’ll fly by

01:02:25.860 —> 01:02:30.420
before I know it now are you allowed to buy mental health supplies out of that

01:02:30.420 —> 01:02:36.560
I’m thinking of beer.

01:02:36.560 —> 01:02:41.900
I don’t want to press my luck with an audit.

01:02:41.900 —> 01:02:45.700
I might have to get my lawyer involved.

01:02:45.700 —> 01:02:49.860
Unlike Elon Musk bouncing stock prices up and down, you’ll probably held to the law.

01:02:49.860 —> 01:02:52.980
I was going to say, Elon could get away with that.

01:02:52.980 —> 01:02:59.140
Did you guys hear about the FTX stuff about all the shady business practices going on

01:02:59.140 —> 01:03:00.140
with them?

01:03:00.140 —> 01:03:03.980
something terrible happened at FTX but I don’t know I know that they got hacked

01:03:03.980 —> 01:03:09.020
but I don’t know any of the details well did they really get hacked or was it all

01:03:09.020 —> 01:03:13.440
embezzlement I mean there’s well that was the Mt. Gox thing right so you know

01:03:13.440 —> 01:03:17.660
that guy just stole it all yeah and in here it sounds it’s it’s it’s really

01:03:17.660 —> 01:03:21.000
fishy let’s just put it that way but apparently you know they’ve been doing

01:03:21.000 —> 01:03:24.620
an examination of the books and supposedly I guess it’s the same guy who

01:03:24.620 —> 01:03:29.060
who did the forensic accounting to unwind Enron’s books

01:03:29.060 —> 01:03:30.740
is doing this now.

01:03:30.740 —> 01:03:34.580
And he’s finding all kinds of things.

01:03:34.580 —> 01:03:39.580
So it’s like, yeah, there’s a reason that we have regulations

01:03:39.580 —> 01:03:43.340
for financial institutions and stuff.

01:03:43.340 —> 01:03:45.140
And we might be seeing that.

01:03:45.140 —> 01:03:47.180
The thing that I didn’t expect was someone else

01:03:47.180 —> 01:03:50.140
to be dumb enough to try that not that long after Mt. Gox.

01:03:50.140 —> 01:03:50.980
Yeah, exactly.

01:03:50.980 —> 01:03:52.260
Right. Exactly.

01:03:52.260 —> 01:03:56.020
Yep, but hey, you know, we are human beings.

01:03:56.020 —> 01:03:57.740
People forget things constantly.

01:03:57.740 —> 01:04:00.640
So maybe they’re just hoping, hey, they’ll forget.

01:04:00.640 —> 01:04:04.020
So what exactly is the premise of FTX?

01:04:04.020 —> 01:04:06.380
Besides we’ll steal all your money.

01:04:06.380 —> 01:04:07.820
I think that’s the extension.

01:04:07.820 —> 01:04:08.660
That’s pretty much it.

01:04:08.660 —> 01:04:13.660
Okay, but what is the purported purpose of FTX?

01:04:13.660 —> 01:04:14.620
What do they claim to be-

01:04:14.620 —> 01:04:17.260
Was it an exchange like Coinbase?

01:04:17.260 —> 01:04:18.100
Same idea?

01:04:18.100 —> 01:04:21.020
But was it that straightforward?

01:04:21.020 —> 01:04:23.180
I thought I never used it, so I’m not sure.

01:04:23.180 —> 01:04:24.260
That’s what I thought it was.

01:04:24.260 —> 01:04:25.660
I thought it was just another exchange

01:04:25.660 —> 01:04:29.220
like Binance or Coinbase, for instance.

01:04:29.220 —> 01:04:30.420
And ‘cause I-

01:04:30.420 —> 01:04:33.380
Collapse of cryptocurrency trading company.

01:04:33.380 —> 01:04:34.500
Yep.

01:04:34.500 —> 01:04:35.340
Yeah. There you go.

01:04:35.340 —> 01:04:38.860
I mean, cryptocurrency is kind of a scam to begin with, so.

01:04:38.860 —> 01:04:39.860
Yeah.

01:04:39.860 —> 01:04:41.520
Why would I need something else?

01:04:41.520 —> 01:04:43.220
I have fiat money.

01:04:43.220 —> 01:04:46.460
Why would I need a fiat, fiat money?

01:04:46.460 —> 01:04:47.300
(laughs)

01:04:47.300 —> 01:04:48.540
Fiat, fiat money?

01:04:48.540 —> 01:04:49.380
Yeah.

01:04:49.380 —> 01:04:50.300
Fiat, fiat.

01:04:50.300 —> 01:04:51.940
I’m gonna take my fiat money and convert that

01:04:51.940 —> 01:04:54.240
into another layer of that,

01:04:54.240 —> 01:04:57.000
because everything’s still based on my initial fiat money,

01:04:57.000 —> 01:04:59.960
which is based on gold, which is no longer based on gold.

01:04:59.960 —> 01:05:00.920
It’s no longer based on,

01:05:00.920 —> 01:05:02.560
what are you gonna buy a fiat with, Adam,

01:05:02.560 —> 01:05:04.080
if you don’t have fiat fiat money?

01:05:04.080 —> 01:05:06.160
Then you can have fiat fiat fiat money.

01:05:06.160 —> 01:05:08.840
Yeah, I need fiat money for my fiat.

01:05:08.840 —> 01:05:12.840
That word has lost all meaning.

01:05:12.840 —> 01:05:14.900
It has lost all meaning, it really has.

01:05:14.900 —> 01:05:18.480
Yeah, I mean, the problem,

01:05:18.480 —> 01:05:24.120
The amazing thing to me is just not only the terrible way in which it decimates natural

01:05:24.120 —> 01:05:29.840
resources, but what amazes me is just how fast cryptocurrencies became just a, just

01:05:29.840 —> 01:05:36.000
a, just a total plain as day out in the open scam that somehow everybody buys into anyway.

01:05:36.000 —> 01:05:38.280
We’ve all agreed, oh, we’re going to believe in this thing.

01:05:38.280 —> 01:05:39.280
That’s clearly a scam.

01:05:39.280 —> 01:05:44.040
And Hey man, they have made ransomware payments so much more convenient.

01:05:44.040 —> 01:05:45.040
They really have actually.

01:05:45.040 —> 01:05:46.040
Yeah, that’s a good point.

01:05:46.040 —> 01:05:47.280
I guess I should give them credit for that.

01:05:47.280 —> 01:05:51.840
ransomers for the ransomers yeah who doesn’t love themselves a good

01:05:51.840 —> 01:05:55.620
capitalist entrepreneur so I think that providing that service and making it

01:05:55.620 —> 01:06:03.840
easier for small fledgling businesses to get going is a good thing yeah all right

01:06:03.840 —> 01:06:07.800
it sounds like we’re winding down have we touched on everything we wanted to

01:06:07.800 —> 01:06:11.600
cover today well yes about fitness or that was my

01:06:11.600 —> 01:06:16.200
knee by the way no I’m not running more I don’t know why you see I’m getting

01:06:16.200 —> 01:06:17.720
more notifications on my watch.

01:06:17.720 —> 01:06:18.840
Maybe I’m just seeing more.

01:06:18.840 —> 01:06:21.140
You only notice half of the notifications that I do.

01:06:21.140 —> 01:06:22.920
I run almost, the thing is,

01:06:22.920 —> 01:06:24.780
is that I’m probably actually running less

01:06:24.780 —> 01:06:26.040
because I’m not doing the same things

01:06:26.040 —> 01:06:27.480
every day as much anymore.

01:06:27.480 —> 01:06:31.240
For a long time, I was running and biking every single day.

01:06:31.240 —> 01:06:33.880
Now I’m taking turns more where like one day

01:06:33.880 —> 01:06:37.320
I’ll just do the bike, other days I’ll just run.

01:06:37.320 —> 01:06:39.600
So there’s really no increase.

01:06:39.600 —> 01:06:43.980
Okay, the notifications I’m seeing from you,

01:06:43.980 —> 01:06:47.060
from your watch seem to be more frequently like I’m getting.

01:06:47.060 —> 01:06:48.300
Well, that’s the other thing too is that

01:06:48.300 —> 01:06:49.180
here’s the difference though.

01:06:49.180 —> 01:06:52.740
Now with the latest watchOS,

01:06:52.740 —> 01:06:55.060
every time I do like a 5K or a 10K,

01:06:55.060 —> 01:06:57.060
it’s like achievement 5K run.

01:06:57.060 —> 01:07:00.500
I’m like, yeah, but I do that all the time.

01:07:00.500 —> 01:07:02.700
Is that how you notice that?

01:07:02.700 —> 01:07:04.060
Yeah, but I think it’s always been that way.

01:07:04.060 —> 01:07:04.900
I don’t think it’s just the latest watchOS.

01:07:04.900 —> 01:07:06.940
I used to always get the first time.

01:07:06.940 —> 01:07:09.300
I used to get an achievement.

01:07:09.300 —> 01:07:12.380
The first time I did a 5K, the first time I did a 10K,

01:07:12.380 —> 01:07:13.780
the first time I did a marathon,

01:07:13.780 —> 01:07:14.660
I got achievement.

01:07:14.660 —> 01:07:16.820
Now it’s every time I do one of those.

01:07:16.820 —> 01:07:18.100
It’s like, you just did a 10K.

01:07:18.100 —> 01:07:20.620
I’m like, yeah, I did, but that’s not an achievement.

01:07:20.620 —> 01:07:22.540
I achieved that a long time ago.

01:07:22.540 —> 01:07:24.480
Well, the first time, when you got them before

01:07:24.480 —> 01:07:25.820
in the past, that was a different one.

01:07:25.820 —> 01:07:28.100
That was first 5K or something like that.

01:07:28.100 —> 01:07:28.940
Could be.

01:07:28.940 —> 01:07:30.620
That was like the first time you’ve done this thing.

01:07:30.620 —> 01:07:31.980
It’s specifically sad, I remember.

01:07:31.980 —> 01:07:33.900
’Cause I used to get those, like after,

01:07:33.900 —> 01:07:35.340
not long after I got an Apple Watch

01:07:35.340 —> 01:07:37.220
and I went on a longer bike ride or whatever,

01:07:37.220 —> 01:07:38.540
it would say, oh, this is the first time

01:07:38.540 —> 01:07:39.380
you’ve gone this distance.

01:07:39.380 —> 01:07:40.580
I’m like, okay, whatever. But this is new.

01:07:40.580 —> 01:07:42.500
I was, yeah. Maybe they, yeah.

01:07:42.500 —> 01:07:47.100
Believe me, I would know if I was getting told every time I did a 5k, because like every

01:07:47.100 —> 01:07:49.500
single time I would run, I would get achievement.

01:07:49.500 —> 01:07:52.760
All I’m used to is like, “You just completed a workout.”

01:07:52.760 —> 01:07:54.940
So now it’s giving me more achievements.

01:07:54.940 —> 01:07:57.740
Yeah, no, it’s fine.

01:07:57.740 —> 01:08:00.020
No, I don’t think I’m running more.

01:08:00.020 —> 01:08:02.900
I think I’m just alternating more.

01:08:02.900 —> 01:08:05.580
The one thing I’m not doing is I’m not doing yoga every single day either now.

01:08:05.580 —> 01:08:07.740
I’m just doing it several times a week.

01:08:07.740 —> 01:08:10.560
Several times a week is still pretty good.

01:08:10.560 —> 01:08:11.560
It’s enough, yeah.

01:08:11.560 —> 01:08:15.560
believe it or not, I’ve found that if I do yoga every single day, I’m more likely to get hurt than

01:08:15.560 —> 01:08:18.680
I am to not get hurt, which is weird because the whole point of yoga is to not get hurt.

01:08:18.680 —> 01:08:20.920
Fair enough.

01:08:20.920 —> 01:08:28.200
So Peter says, you know, “Adam isn’t doing push-ups anymore.” At least that’s what

01:08:28.200 —> 01:08:29.800
Peter’s tunnel vision view from Signal.

01:08:29.800 —> 01:08:32.120
Oh, he says you’re not doing anything but push-ups.

01:08:32.120 —> 01:08:33.000
Anything but push-ups.

01:08:33.000 —> 01:08:37.080
Because you’re not wearing an Apple Watch anymore, so I don’t get your CrossFit and

01:08:37.080 —> 01:08:41.320
your walk to and from CrossFit and all that, so all I get is our Signal Chats.

01:08:41.320 —> 01:08:47.000
saying, you’re like, oh I just do it. Yeah, if you had Fitbit then you would notice my workouts,

01:08:47.000 —> 01:08:54.280
I’m on a streak now and I’m actively, I’m actually trying, so I looked historically at how many times

01:08:54.280 —> 01:09:00.280
I was actually making it to CrossFit and when I saw the numbers of how many times I’m actually

01:09:00.280 —> 01:09:08.120
attending the class, it was lower than I felt like I was attending, so I am upping my game and

01:09:08.760 —> 01:09:14.120
trying to get more more times where I’m actually in class doing the things I’m supposed to be doing.

01:09:14.120 —> 01:09:14.680
Good for you.

01:09:14.680 —> 01:09:17.080
So I’m trying to lose some weight.

01:09:17.080 —> 01:09:21.640
When you’re not going to class, Adam, are you doing home CrossFit workouts?

01:09:21.640 —> 01:09:27.640
Yeah, so like today I did. Well, I was pretty I got my flu shot in my

01:09:27.640 —> 01:09:32.760
or my COVID booster yesterday, so I woke up pretty achy today.

01:09:32.760 —> 01:09:33.160
Sure.

01:09:33.160 —> 01:09:35.960
So I did, I just did a walk.

01:09:35.960 —> 01:09:39.460
So I don’t run as, I mean, I will run,

01:09:39.460 —> 01:09:41.320
but I usually don’t run down here at the farm

01:09:41.320 —> 01:09:44.740
because I’m on rocky, you know, I don’t want to fall down

01:09:44.740 —> 01:09:46.460
or hurt my knee like and be a Peter.

01:09:46.460 —> 01:09:47.300
What could possibly go wrong?

01:09:47.300 —> 01:09:48.500
Well, I was gonna say, don’t go to assembly row

01:09:48.500 —> 01:09:49.860
or whatever it was called.

01:09:49.860 —> 01:09:54.600
Yeah, but so like today I walked a mile and a half

01:09:54.600 —> 01:09:57.080
and in between I did pushups

01:09:57.080 —> 01:09:59.880
so that I finished my pushup count for the day.

01:09:59.880 —> 01:10:03.060
And typically I’ll do air squats as part of that

01:10:03.060 —> 01:10:05.380
when I’m not able to go to the gym,

01:10:05.380 —> 01:10:07.220
but we did wall balls yesterday,

01:10:07.220 —> 01:10:08.840
so really wasn’t necessary for me

01:10:08.840 —> 01:10:09.940
to do a whole bunch of air squats.

01:10:09.940 —> 01:10:11.440
Wall balls.

01:10:11.440 —> 01:10:15.620
Oh, I just remembered one thing I wanted to touch on, Scott,

01:10:15.620 —> 01:10:18.420
and I know it doesn’t really apply to you anymore,

01:10:18.420 —> 01:10:22.500
but who the heck is Bending Spoons?

01:10:22.500 —> 01:10:23.380
That sounds familiar.

01:10:23.380 —> 01:10:24.620
What are you talking about?

01:10:24.620 —> 01:10:27.180
They’re the company that just acquired Evernote.

01:10:27.180 —> 01:10:29.380
Oh, right.

01:10:29.380 —> 01:10:31.260
I have no idea who Bending Spoons is.

01:10:31.260 —> 01:10:34.900
I am not hopeful.

01:10:34.900 —> 01:10:36.840
I mean, Evernote, you and I, we used to be,

01:10:36.840 —> 01:10:41.660
I still am to a lesser extent, like a huge Evernote user.

01:10:41.660 —> 01:10:44.880
I still use Evernote because there are still things that,

01:10:44.880 —> 01:10:48.060
I mean, well, I’ve got just tons and tons of data in there.

01:10:48.060 —> 01:10:49.740
Peter, they’re about to become NeverNote.

01:10:49.740 —> 01:10:51.940
They’re about to start bending spoons,

01:10:51.940 —> 01:10:54.100
moving with their mind powers.

01:10:54.100 —> 01:10:56.400
Well, maybe if these people can actually bend spoons

01:10:56.400 —> 01:10:58.060
with their mind, maybe they can actually figure out

01:10:58.060 —> 01:10:59.780
what to do with Evernote that’ll make it successful.

01:10:59.780 —> 01:11:01.180
Maybe they can, I don’t know.

01:11:01.180 —> 01:11:03.820
All I know is like the prices for Evernote kept on,

01:11:03.820 —> 01:11:06.140
you know, gradually going up and.

01:11:06.140 —> 01:11:07.740
Right, as they were running out of money.

01:11:07.740 —> 01:11:08.740
Yeah, pretty much.

01:11:08.740 —> 01:11:11.420
Have you seen their logo?

01:11:11.420 —> 01:11:13.580
I went to their website, bendingspoons.com,

01:11:13.580 —> 01:11:16.420
bendingspoons.com, impossible, maybe.

01:11:16.420 —> 01:11:17.260
Maybe.

01:11:17.260 —> 01:11:19.180
Yeah, I don’t know.

01:11:19.180 —> 01:11:22.740
They’ve got a manifesto on their website, you know,

01:11:22.740 —> 01:11:24.020
but it makes me Are you serious?

01:11:24.020 —> 01:11:24.900
Yeah.

01:11:24.900 —> 01:11:28.380
Yeah, I don’t trust anybody that has a manifesto.

01:11:28.380 —> 01:11:29.220
I don’t either.

01:11:29.220 —> 01:11:33.300
They usually start, they usually end up mailing bombs through the Postal Service.

01:11:33.300 —> 01:11:34.300
Exactly.

01:11:34.300 —> 01:11:36.900
There’s a manifesto.

01:11:36.900 —> 01:11:42.540
So did they, they didn’t say like how much of this was, what the price was, right?

01:11:42.540 —> 01:11:46.460
I mean, because Evernote was, they were a unicorn, right?

01:11:46.460 —> 01:11:50.720
I mean, they were evaluated at over a billion at one point, right?

01:11:50.720 —> 01:11:51.720
I don’t know.

01:11:51.720 —> 01:11:53.900
I couldn’t tell you if they were a unicorn.

01:11:53.900 —> 01:12:00.220
Evernote boasts approximately one million dollars a hundred sorry 100 million dollars in recurring revenue

01:12:00.220 —> 01:12:05.780
Millions of paying customers. Oh, I don’t have a 100. I wish I had a 100 million clip

01:12:05.780 —> 01:12:08.540
All I have is this one why make trillions when we could make

01:12:08.540 —> 01:12:23.180
Yeah, so I don’t know I need to I need to figure out I mean cuz I’ve used Evernote for so many things

01:12:23.180 —> 01:12:28.020
things, you know, like I use its search feature for tons and tons of documents.

01:12:28.020 —> 01:12:29.900
I used it as a file system.

01:12:29.900 —> 01:12:30.900
I have like -

01:12:30.900 —> 01:12:31.900
Yes, yes, yes.

01:12:31.900 —> 01:12:32.900
I remember early on -

01:12:32.900 —> 01:12:33.900
A cabinet.

01:12:33.900 —> 01:12:34.900
Yeah, a cabinet.

01:12:34.900 —> 01:12:39.020
I don’t know if Scott, if it was you and I or if it was me and Harlem back on fresh Ubuntu,

01:12:39.020 —> 01:12:44.300
but you know, like we did a comparison of Dropbox versus Evernote back when cloud was

01:12:44.300 —> 01:12:46.160
just becoming a thing.

01:12:46.160 —> 01:12:51.380
And the advantage with Dropbox was that I was able to, you know, there was a finite

01:12:51.380 —> 01:12:56.480
level, whereas with Evernote there was just a finite rate of ingest.

01:12:56.480 —> 01:13:00.480
So I could only put in this much per month, but the amount that I was using…

01:13:00.480 —> 01:13:02.640
You could put in a billion terabytes.

01:13:02.640 —> 01:13:07.720
You could fill up the entire internet with your Evernote cabinet if you wanted to, but

01:13:07.720 —> 01:13:08.720
you could only trickle it in.

01:13:08.720 —> 01:13:10.960
It would take you your entire lifetime to do it.

01:13:10.960 —> 01:13:12.360
Yep, exactly.

01:13:12.360 —> 01:13:16.680
But that works for me, and I mean, I’ve just got so much stuff in Evernote, and I’m sure

01:13:16.680 —> 01:13:22.840
I’ve forgotten about 99% of it, but you know, it’s like, well, that’s what that search features for.

01:13:22.840 —> 01:13:28.120
There you go. But you know, it’s useful though, because like if I’m missing something just the

01:13:28.120 —> 01:13:33.000
other day, I was trying to find like some warranty. No, it was my AppleCare. That’s what it was.

01:13:33.000 —> 01:13:37.640
My AppleCare stuff. The first place I looked, my email. And if I don’t find it there, I check in

01:13:37.640 —> 01:13:44.520
Evernote. Oh, amazing. You should get AppleCare Plus on your knee. You know, if I could, especially

01:13:44.520 —> 01:13:47.100
Especially if that included a replacement, that’d be amazing.

01:13:47.100 —> 01:13:48.100
Right.

01:13:48.100 —> 01:13:49.100
Go to the Genius Bar.

01:13:49.100 —> 01:13:50.600
Excuse me, I heard a twinge.

01:13:50.600 —> 01:13:52.420
I felt a twinge.

01:13:52.420 —> 01:13:58.040
When I switched to using Apple Notes, when Apple Notes got to the point where I could

01:13:58.040 —> 01:14:02.920
throw all the types of content in there that I was putting in Evernote, I was worried because

01:14:02.920 —> 01:14:06.840
I was like, “If this syncs to all my devices and stuff, I’m going to run out of space.”

01:14:06.840 —> 01:14:08.520
But it really hasn’t happened.

01:14:08.520 —> 01:14:13.420
Now granted, I am not as unrestrained when it comes to throwing stuff in there as I was

01:14:13.420 —> 01:14:18.180
was Evernote, but I also found that 99% of the stuff I threw in Evernote I never used

01:14:18.180 —> 01:14:24.440
again. So it’s not like I’m limiting myself on purpose. I’m just doing what I do naturally

01:14:24.440 —> 01:14:28.660
and I’m not at all having space issues whatsoever.

01:14:28.660 —> 01:14:34.180
I remember, this is about three years ago, I started to look for Evernote alternatives

01:14:34.180 —> 01:14:37.280
and I wanted to, I was checking out OneNote.

01:14:37.280 —> 01:14:39.680
That’s what we use at work for capturing notes and sharing notes.

01:14:39.680 —> 01:14:41.640
We had used that at the hospital.

01:14:41.640 —> 01:14:44.740
We were using that at Mimecast when I was there.

01:14:44.740 —> 01:14:49.020
I still had Paradigm and we’re moving to Office 365.

01:14:49.020 —> 01:14:51.680
We’re going to be M365 resellers, blah, blah, blah.

01:14:51.680 —> 01:14:55.000
So I was like, let me check it out.

01:14:55.000 —> 01:14:58.000
I could get how OneNote works.

01:14:58.000 —> 01:15:04.880
I found Evernote easier to use for sure, but I was never able to successfully import all

01:15:04.880 —> 01:15:07.760
of my Evernote stuff into OneNote.

01:15:07.760 —> 01:15:13.440
import process, presumably just because I have so much data, never finished. It never really worked.

01:15:13.440 —> 01:15:15.360
Yeah, right.

01:15:15.360 —> 01:15:18.560
So that was kind of disappointing. I could export it just fine,

01:15:18.560 —> 01:15:22.800
but finding something else to import it into was like not happening.

01:15:22.800 —> 01:15:28.800
Your data was so useless Evernote would happily let you get rid of it, but no one else wanted it.

01:15:28.800 —> 01:15:30.640
Yeah, exactly.

01:15:30.640 —> 01:15:33.440
Did you really have rich content that you needed?

01:15:33.440 —> 01:15:34.480
Rich?

01:15:35.280 —> 01:15:43.280
I mean, I have tables, you know, I definitely have tables and markup. Tons and tons and tons of attachments.

01:15:43.280 —> 01:15:47.280
Now you’re starting to sound like Siracusa, so they’re like, “What are you doing with all those windows? There’s stuff in them.”

01:15:47.280 —> 01:15:56.280
There’s stuff in them. I mean, there’s a bunch of garbage in them too, don’t get me wrong. But, um, you know, but there’s definitely stuff that I want.

01:15:56.280 —> 01:15:59.280
I would be curious to… can we assign you some homework?

01:15:59.280 —> 01:16:01.280
Yeah, I have time.

01:16:01.280 —> 01:16:16.280
I would love if you just started digging through some of the stuff in Evernote and figure out just based on a very small sample size, figure out to yourself what percentage of it you think is useful versus it just went in there and you thought, I’ll need this someday. You could be an you could be an E hoarder.

01:16:16.280 —> 01:16:22.600
I am oh, totally. I totally am. Like right now, I found an unreimbursed medical expense

01:16:22.600 —> 01:16:30.760
from 2019. I found an agenda for a conference that I attended in 2018,

01:16:30.760 —> 01:16:35.400
a picture of my badge from said conference from 2018.

01:16:35.400 —> 01:16:38.920
A picture of your knee looking healthy at the conference in 2018.

01:16:38.920 —> 01:16:45.080
Directions to another conference in 2018. There’s plenty of garbage.

01:16:45.080 —> 01:16:49.000
Man, you were really loving the conference lifestyle in 2018.

01:16:49.000 —> 01:16:49.880
I apparently was.

01:16:49.880 —> 01:16:53.000
This is exactly why I’m paperless.

01:16:53.000 —> 01:16:55.720
So I’ve got, I mean, I do my own little thing.

01:16:55.720 —> 01:17:00.600
So I’ve got my notes, my Apple notes, those are notes, because they’re nice and searchable.

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And then I do everything else in Google Drive.

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I mean, Google knows everything about me anyway, so I might as well make it easier for them.

01:17:06.840 —> 01:17:12.040
But I dump all that stuff in there, so if I ever have to search it,

01:17:12.760 —> 01:17:16.760
But I don’t, I don’t, you know, there’s no reason to keep most of that stuff.

01:17:16.760 —> 01:17:21.560
See, I think the difference between, I think going back to your analogy, Peter,

01:17:21.560 —> 01:17:24.920
of Dropbox or Google Drive versus Evernote, I think the difference for me is,

01:17:24.920 —> 01:17:29.320
how do you want to use things? If it’s just a receipt and you literally

01:17:29.320 —> 01:17:34.360
don’t care if it’s a separate document, that’s fine. But if it’s in Notes or Evernote or

01:17:34.360 —> 01:17:40.040
something that has, that you’re actually putting stuff into like a cabinet, then it’s searchable,

01:17:40.040 —> 01:17:45.080
then it’s linkable, then it’s all these things. Otherwise it’s literally just documents on a drive.

01:17:45.080 —> 01:17:50.840
It’s just a file system. And so I think it actually does matter what you’re using that stuff for if you

01:17:50.840 —> 01:17:57.080
want a file system versus a filing cabinet with search. Think of it more like a library index card

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or something than a filing cabinet, I guess. Yeah. I mean, stuff that I just don’t think

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about, it’s more like just a bucket of stuff though for me. Like I’ve got pictures, I’ve got

01:18:08.280 —> 01:18:14.000
But like old warranties, manuals, like user manuals for things, you know, just throw those

01:18:14.000 —> 01:18:17.000
in Evernote and then if I ever need them, there they are.

01:18:17.000 —> 01:18:20.160
Some friends you haven’t talked to in a couple years are in Evernote.

01:18:20.160 —> 01:18:22.160
I could throw you into Evernote.

01:18:22.160 —> 01:18:23.160
Wow, ouch.

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But there was -

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You sure like trunk-based services, Evernote, nice thing.

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I forget though, when I first got my new iPad and the pencil, I did start working on, you

01:18:37.400 —> 01:18:43.800
start migrating sort of like it became my default for taking notes because the pencil integration

01:18:43.800 —> 01:18:47.880
is so much better than the pencil integration for Evernote. That’s really the only reason.

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And I forget, I think you can go one way but not the other. There was, I found,

01:18:52.600 —> 01:18:56.680
as I remember talking with you about it, there was like an article, there were plenty of ways to

01:18:56.680 —> 01:19:00.200
what go from Evernote to Apple Notes. Evernote to Notes.

01:19:00.200 —> 01:19:02.520
But there’s no way to go the other way around. So.

01:19:02.520 —> 01:19:05.320
Well, nobody thought you would ever want to do that.

01:19:05.320 —> 01:19:14.320
Well, I would like to just use Notes as my primary note-taking interface, but store everything in one place.

01:19:14.320 —> 01:19:19.820
Let’s see, I think you can create shortcuts now that allow you to do hand input. Maybe I’m wrong.

01:19:19.820 —> 01:19:31.320
Or, oh, you know what you can do now? Now you can access the Vision API so that what you can do is just write stuff on a piece of paper and then just scan it all in and it can convert it to text for you.

01:19:31.320 —> 01:19:34.320
Actual text. Font.

01:19:34.320 —> 01:19:37.820
But what, wait, using the Notes app or what are we talking about?

01:19:37.820 —> 01:19:40.460
No, using a pen and paper.

01:19:40.460 —> 01:19:43.500
Okay, so I can write on a pen and paper and then scan it?

01:19:43.500 —> 01:19:46.500
Or you could use the Notes app and use the Vision API to convert that text.

01:19:46.500 —> 01:19:51.300
Right, see what I would like to be able to do though is just write,

01:19:51.300 —> 01:19:55.300
I like the interface, I like using the Apple Pencil on an iPad.

01:19:55.300 —> 01:19:55.800
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:19:55.800 —> 01:19:57.300
I like that experience.

01:19:57.300 —> 01:20:02.760
But I don’t like the experience using an Apple Pencil on an iPad in Evernote.

01:20:02.760 —> 01:20:03.560
Because it’s just…

01:20:03.560 —> 01:20:05.800
But what I’m saying is you should be able to,

01:20:05.800 —> 01:20:07.480
now you should be able to create a shortcut

01:20:07.480 —> 01:20:10.340
where you write a note in Apple Notes

01:20:10.340 —> 01:20:13.400
and it uses the Vision API to get the text from that.

01:20:13.400 —> 01:20:14.460
I don’t know, I’ll have to look into it.

01:20:14.460 —> 01:20:15.800
I think you should be able to make a shortcut.

01:20:15.800 —> 01:20:17.860
So basically, like make it a shortcut

01:20:17.860 —> 01:20:19.960
to export from Notes to Evernote?

01:20:19.960 —> 01:20:23.160
Not just that, but, oh, I guess when you write it in Notes,

01:20:23.160 —> 01:20:25.960
it’s already converting it into, okay,

01:20:25.960 —> 01:20:27.720
so the conversion’s already done, yeah.

01:20:27.720 —> 01:20:29.880
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yes, you could for sure make a,

01:20:29.880 —> 01:20:31.080
absolutely 100% for sure,

01:20:31.080 —> 01:20:32.280
you can make a shortcut to do that.

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Absolutely, for sure.

01:20:33.560 —> 01:20:35.160
My handwriting is so poor.

01:20:35.160 —> 01:20:36.780
I have to spend some time.

01:20:36.780 —> 01:20:40.760
If I make it legible after write so slowly,

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I might as well type it.

01:20:42.560 —> 01:20:43.840
I’m the same way as you.

01:20:43.840 —> 01:20:46.520
My handwriting’s always been bad and it’s gotten worse.

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And now if I write for too long,

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I just get pain in my hand.

01:20:50.840 —> 01:20:51.880
Yeah.

01:20:51.880 —> 01:20:54.360
So make a shortcut to export every.

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Products of the system.

01:20:55.760 —> 01:20:59.040
Peter’s working on his automation.

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Imagine those kids in school these days

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don’t need to learn how to write anymore? I mean, how lucky is that?

01:21:04.760 —> 01:21:08.680
They don’t even know how to write cursive or read cursive.

01:21:08.680 —> 01:21:12.200
No, my daughter did learn cursive. They were still teaching cursive.

01:21:12.200 —> 01:21:13.800
Well, many schools no longer require cursive.

01:21:13.800 —> 01:21:21.160
Yeah. It’s really local. I mean, my girls did, but a lot of the private schools here,

01:21:21.160 —> 01:21:24.520
public schools here, they’re not even teaching cursive in third and fourth

01:21:24.520 —> 01:21:26.200
grade like they did when we were kids.

01:21:26.200 —> 01:21:29.960
To be honest, it’s kind of a big who cares. The nice thing about cursive is it’s faster

01:21:29.960 —> 01:21:34.200
to write. That is the only benefit. And that is the reason I write in cursive now when I do write,

01:21:34.200 —> 01:21:38.840
because it’s easier for me just to do it until I can get more words out before I reach the point

01:21:38.840 —> 01:21:45.960
where my hand hurts and I have to stop. But beyond that, does it really matter? Like, we don’t write

01:21:45.960 —> 01:21:51.960
stuff in Latin anymore either. Yeah. No. When’s the last cursive note you received from me, Peter?

01:21:51.960 —> 01:21:58.040
It’s been a while. It’s been a while. That said, every now and then, when I go into on my iPad and

01:21:58.040 —> 01:21:59.760
and I’m in messages with someone,

01:21:59.760 —> 01:22:04.760
I forget and then remember that it has that little option

01:22:04.760 —> 01:22:09.500
where you can do like draw either on screen or something.

01:22:09.500 —> 01:22:12.320
And I’ll do cursive in there sometimes.

01:22:12.320 —> 01:22:14.420
But I’ve generally pretty much given up

01:22:14.420 —> 01:22:15.640
on cursive these days.

01:22:15.640 —> 01:22:18.680
I usually just, you know, I write block letters

01:22:18.680 —> 01:22:22.020
and sometimes you can actually read them.

01:22:22.020 —> 01:22:25.160
I don’t even write cursive on my checks

01:22:25.160 —> 01:22:26.560
other than my signature.

01:22:26.560 —> 01:22:27.640
Yeah, oh yeah, exactly.

01:22:27.640 —> 01:22:31.160
Signature is my signature is different every time I don’t even know why they bother

01:22:31.160 —> 01:22:34.520
It’s like you can compare this to whatever you want. It’s not gonna look the same

01:22:34.520 —> 01:22:40.560
There was a there was a guy. I mean it’s been a few years ago

01:22:40.560 —> 01:22:45.180
You may be able to find it that his signature for his credit card and everything

01:22:45.180 —> 01:22:49.760
Instead of writing his name because he figured nobody checked. He drew a penis

01:22:49.760 —> 01:22:56.220
every time for his signature and they finally caught on to him and they

01:22:56.800 —> 01:22:58.800
He got in trouble for it

01:22:58.800 —> 01:23:08.240
But in the signature pad instead of like signing his name he just he was making there’s gotta be a wiener statute somewhere

01:23:08.240 —> 01:23:14.340
On that note. I think it’s time we wrap up this show

01:23:14.340 —> 01:23:20.960
Peter where can people find us now that you’re so you can now find us at friendswithbrews.com

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That’s B R E

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Ws.com but you can also find your sneeze

01:23:27.600 —> 01:23:32.960
Peter with bruise b r u i s e

01:23:32.960 —> 01:23:38.040
Definitely can be found at Friends with Brews.com. Yep

01:23:38.040 —> 01:23:43.640
Adam can be found at sublimecomp.com and our our

01:23:43.640 —> 01:23:46.080
Lavender farm calm

01:23:46.080 —> 01:23:53.360
Alright, that’s right. I can be found at nikolaidis.com yogawithpeter.com paradigmcc.com and

01:23:53.360 —> 01:23:55.960
And Scott, you nuked one of your domains.

01:23:55.960 —> 01:23:57.300
So where’s the best place to find you

01:23:57.300 —> 01:23:59.140
besides this lovely podcast?

01:23:59.140 —> 01:24:01.020
Scottwillsey.com.

01:24:01.020 —> 01:24:03.580
What about mastadew or mastadon’t?

01:24:03.580 —> 01:24:06.700
W-I-L-L-S-E-Y.

01:24:06.700 —> 01:24:10.860
Oh yeah, I’m Scott A.W. @federverse.cu.

01:24:10.860 —> 01:24:13.900
That’s the letter C, the letter Y,

01:24:13.900 —> 01:24:15.540
the letter O, the letter U.

01:24:15.540 —> 01:24:18.260
Ah. Federverse.cu.

01:24:18.260 —> 01:24:19.820
You’re gonna have-That’s John Chidgey’s server.

01:24:19.820 —> 01:24:22.060
Ah, okay.

01:24:22.060 —> 01:24:23.320
No, there’s a link to it on friend,

01:24:23.320 —> 01:24:32.840
If you go to friendswithbrews.com and click on Friends page.