Episode 3 – Drinking on Empty

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Friends with beer.

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You look confused, Peter.

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What the hell was that?

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That was friends with beer.

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Yeah, I know, but that’s new.

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Yeah.

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And therefore I fear it.

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Okay. Friends with fear. Whatever.

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Much better.

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All right, we’re here with friends with beer.

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We’re here for friends with beer. We’re here-

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I’m doing this is already weird for me.

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Can you see why? Two friends with beer. Can you see why by looking at your picture in front of you?

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Well I can see you for one thing. Right, but what’s different? You’re sitting down. Yeah,

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I never do that when we podcast. But I just, it was one more thing that, look, I have been failing

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so hard today. I was like, I’m not going to bother taking time to adjust my desk up. That’s it, Mr.

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Scott Willsey is not going to take this podcast sitting down. Well, I guess today he is. No,

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No, I thought you were gonna say that’s it. You’re not gonna podcast me because I’m not taking it seriously.

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I mean, I could.

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Or in the words of Coach Beard…

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I don’t want to drink with someone that selfish.

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I thought that’s what you were gonna say.

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On that note, we should get to the beers. But before we get to the beers, we should introduce ourselves.

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Okay, you are Peter of the Nikolades, actually known as Peter…

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I am Peter Nikolaidis. I am your host, Peter Nikolaidis. And with me is my co-host, Scott Wilsey.

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Next time, you can be the host and I’ll be your co-host.

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Is this your iPhone?

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And I’m looking at you on… That’s why the image is so good.

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You’re seeing me on my Mac, that’s why it looks like hell.

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And because it’s dark in here.

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But you still look better than when I’m on my

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Asus whatever monitor.

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You look better than me when I’m using my Windows

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attached monitor garbage.

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I don’t know, Peter, you’re a very handsome man.

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I would dispute that.

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Fair enough.

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So let’s get to the beer, shall we?

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Show me your beer.

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I am starting today with a,

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I forget the name of the brewery.

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Blah, blah, blah.

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Jeez, okay.

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I know the name of the beer.

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I just don’t know the brewery name.

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What is this?

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Ah, I don’t know.

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Oh, 21st Amendment.

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21st Amendment Brewery.

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Okay.

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And it’s Hell or High Watermelon.

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It’s a watermelon wheat beer.

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That sounds good.

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It does.

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Have you had one of these before?

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I have had one of these before,

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but it’s been a while.

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It’s been a while.

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So taking a cue from you,

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when I went to the store,

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I bought something that I haven’t had before

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For this podcast. Apparently I’m gonna say everything three times in a row now

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So here’s what I have. How many of these have you already had?

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None. I have a gigantic brewing which is a Portland brewery project Pilsner crystal

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Okay, I like it I have never what is it I don’t know I mean it’s a crystal beer a pistol

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Pistol pistol beer Pilsner crystal. That’s great. Not even one sip down and already I can’t talk. Yeah. Well, here’s the problem

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I was going to tell you about this.

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So I may let me know if you can tell after I’ve been drinking this,

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because here’s why I went deep into calorie debt already before my day even started,

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because at midnight I was done with my workouts and I was getting ready to go take a shower.

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And I decided to have a cup, as in the measuring unit, a cup and a quarter of Tillamook’s

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finest monster cookie and cookie dough ice creams.

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Ooh. And so that right there was 480 calories.

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Sure. And then this is 300 calories. So already I’m 780 calories down.

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Got it. So what I’m saying is I’ve had very little food so far today,

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and so this is probably going to affect me. So I went on a 10k trail run right before this,

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but I made sure to eat food as soon as I got back.

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I exercised before I did this and I ate nothing afterwards.

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Right. I did not want to be that guy. Right. So I actually ate first. So that’s good though. For

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For once, let the beer hit you harder than me for a change or maybe faster.

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No, no. You’ve never been like this, Peter.

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Yeah, but I got questions that need answering.

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First, have you seen my keys?

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That was my only question.

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Oh, wait, I got another question.

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Can you start my car?

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I mean, I feel like that at work some days.

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Oh, my God. My last week was so bad.

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I was so unproductive. I was useless.

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My, I, people come to us with security requests and like, we need you to add this system to the network.

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And we ask basic questions like, what is the business purpose of this?

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What sort of data does it handle? Does it handle patient data?

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And they’re like, I don’t know.

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I thought you were gonna say, what is the network?

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Wouldn’t surprise me.

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So, but, yeah.

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As you can guess, Monolith 3000 locks down there because we have a production network and then we have the

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normal office networks and they don’t like even on the different subnets of the

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manufacturing network they don’t like things to talk to each other. What a novel concept.

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And so what they’ve done in the past right now we don’t have port security enabled on our

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particular tools but in the past they’ve done that and there were some tools that I installed

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that are actually right next to us now that I installed many years ago and what they did was

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they just enabled port security on everything so that all packet transfer failed and then we had

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to tell them which of those packets bouncing off their firewall was ours and which ones were

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important to us yeah and we had literally literally packet by packet we had to explain

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this is ours this is why it’s trying to go to that particular port this is you know it was just

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unbelievable that’s one way to do it that is definitely a way to do it

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deny all okay now prove that you need to let us allow some

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Oh goodness. Yeah. Yeah that’s um that is a way to do it. I don’t think that’s the way I would do it.

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But that’s a way a way to do it. So far my verdict on this is it’s quite good. Um my hell or high

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watermelon is very good. This is not too hoppy like an this is definitely not an IPA. This is

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definitely a pilsner. It’s no no it’s a pilsman. Yeah yeah but I’ve had some that claim not to be

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IPAs that are still a little hoppy for my taste. This one is not. Well right I mean just because

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you’re not an IPA does not mean you can’t be hoppy. Right. Be hoppy. Don’t worry, be hoppy.

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So I suggested a silly topic for today, like little things that make you smile. Okay,

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here’s one that makes me smile. Right now I’m looking at you and I’m thinking,

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look at you in there, looking like a brunette Oscar the Grouch. You are, I don’t have, that’s,

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you’re not really looking like Oscar the Grouch. For one thing, he doesn’t have spectacles like

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that right well there’s that so what makes you smile peter oh your topic is going to be the exact

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opposite of mine okay hmm maybe we should do mine for a beer sides sure okay go ahead what makes you

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smile excuse me i had to burp wow that’s soon that’s sudden you you better talk fast and talk

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now before before you do sound like the guy with the car keys silly things so my car has tire

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pressure sensors like every modern car now. Sure. Do they actually look at the actual tire pressure

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or do they just look at the velocity of the wheel at a given speed and calculate the circumference

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of the tire based on that because I have no idea because the ones on my wife’s car calculate their

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circumference of the tire. I know that mine says you have to drive it for it to take a reading so

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So does that affect my answer?

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That probably means it’s not actually looking at just the pressure, it’s probably actually

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calculating it.

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Probably.

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Yeah.

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That’d be my guess.

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I guess it’s cheaper to do or something.

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I’m sure.

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Whatever’s cheaper, that’s the way they’re going to do it.

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Funny today though, I was driving and one of my tires pressure was 46.

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No, one was 47, one was 48, one was 49, and the other was 50 PSI.

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That just, I was like, that’s so funny.

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That is hilarious.

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I don’t know why.

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Yes.

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Could you feel the tilt?

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I could not feel the tilt, no.

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Okay, you are not you could never be a race driver I guess is what I’m trying to say.

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I guess not.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, so we can’t get the for some reason even though we’ve done everything that we’re

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supposed to do, we can’t get the ones on my wife’s car to reset properly. The tires are

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perfect man, I filled them all myself. I got a compressor in the garage. I waited till it

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was nice and cool. I filled them all to the exact same they were a little low but I

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I don’t know how to reset it. It doesn’t want to reset.

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Got nothing. Take it to the dealership. Pay lots of money.

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I don’t want to do that.

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How’s your beer?

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Uh, the beer’s good. It’s still good.

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Good.

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I’m gonna drink it slowly.

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So, what makes you smile? What’s a little thing that makes you smile?

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What makes me smile? My cat makes me smile.

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Because my cat…

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Cat’s a little thing.

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Yeah. First of all, my cat is a badass. I’ve discussed that before.

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So playing with him, just playing with him is fun.

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When you pet him or touch him, he’s just got this solid feel to him.

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Like he, you know, he just feels like a righteously built animal.

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But then the funny thing about him is his response to everything in life is biting.

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He shows love by biting.

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He shows anger by biting.

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He shows play by biting.

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He shows eating food by biting.

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I mean, everything is biting.

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Well, some of those make sense.

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Some of those do make sense.

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But the one where he just he’s so happy when he’s biting your face or something like that.

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And it’s like, okay, little dude.

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But he’s, he’s pretty smart.

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He like, he wants to use my indoor.

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I have indoor shoes that are basically slippers, Adidas slippers.

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And they’ve got this, I thought you were going to say indoor plumbing.

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They’ve got a big strap across the front of the foot.

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They’re not like thongs, but they’re like sandal, like you’d slip on.

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And he knows that he can use those to dig his claws into versus

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when I’m just wearing my socks.

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And sometimes he’ll come up and he’ll look at my feet and he’s about to extend

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And then he realizes oh, he’s just wearing socks and then he stops and walks away. It’s hilarious. Oh

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He’s not wearing his armor right or the difference between jeans and say my they’re like sweats

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You know what? I mean

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sweats gotcha, but not

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Not the old gray Hanes ones with the cuff at the bottom like Rocky wore when he was yelling

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Anyway, he can tell the difference and he doesn’t hurt me when I’m wearing one and he does doesn’t hurt me when I’m wearing the

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Other because it’s thicker. Anyway, that’s what makes me smile. Yeah, excellent. Excellent

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All right. How’s your beer lasting? Mmm. I’m down to maybe like how I’m more than halfway through

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this is my first I have more because

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As you can see the bottle is uh, what is it? I made hit to today too dark in here to see

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16.9 16.9 fluid ounces. All right, mine’s 12. Yeah, you definitely need another one

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Just a can. And it’s only 4 point some odd percent. I have no idea. It’s weak.

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Oh, that’s true. Yeah, what is this? I dare you call it weak. This is 5.2.

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It’s not the strongest, but it’s not super.

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Yeah, you’re ahead of me. No, this was like 4.8 or 4.7 or something. So I have a backup.

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Yeah, but that looks like something that would be amazing in the summer.

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It’s pretty amazing and it’s summer. So yeah.

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By the way, I don’t know if you noticed, I don’t know if you listened to our podcast, but

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I actually put pictures and links to the beers that we drink last time in the chapter arts.

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I did not notice.

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I did listen to our podcast, but I did not watch it.

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So I did not see the links.

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What about reading it?

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Did you read it?

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I would have put the link.

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I did not read our podcast.

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No.

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[laughter]

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Although this beer is starting to hit me, so I’m starting to feel like maybe I should

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go read a podcast tonight after this.

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Yeah.

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Lay in bed and read a podcast.

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Yeah, exactly.

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So I’ll do that again this time.

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So anyway, from now on, starting last episode, people can look at the chapter art.

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They can read our podcast.

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They can read our podcast.

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They can look at the chapter art.

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I will put chapters in there with links to the beer that I have and the beer that Peter

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has separately so that people can join us belatedly.

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I like it.

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Yeah, that sounds good.

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But yeah, I think when I go to a Whole Paycheck or Whole Foods or whatever it’s called, I

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will you know buy something different once in a while. I mean there may be some repeats

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but it’s not gonna be like I was early on in this where I was always drinking the chocolate.

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You’re not gonna just do a Budweiser every single episode?

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The chocolate porter.

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You can mix it up. You can do Budweiser, you can do Bud Light, you can do Bud Light Lime.

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Have you ever had any of those beers? I’m sure you had when you were younger.

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I may have had a Budweiser a long time ago.

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I definitely had a Miller Lite about

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seven years ago.

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I was out with a friend and his lesbian

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wannabe girlfriend.

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Wait a minute.

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Which made me hilariously…

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That was another little thing that made me smile.

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Wait, why do you say that?

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Did she say she wanted to?

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Because he was hitting on this girl and she was a self-proclaimed lesbian.

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So we were there and he got this, you know picture of Miller Lite and I tasted something

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I was just like my god, this is horrible. Oh, you’re way ahead of me. No, I’m way ahead of you. I topped off again

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I didn’t drink all of the first glass. I topped this off. I thought you were

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Toasting to Miller Lite. No, no, no. So no 16 but 16.9 ounces is like one and a half of these cups got it

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I’ve got like less than four ounces in my beer left

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But anyway, so the reason I bring that up is that like after he gave up on her like six months later

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She married a dude

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So I was just like maybe she just wasn’t that into you. I don’t know. I was gonna say anyway

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She was a smoker. So as far as I was concerned no deal. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah

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I told you about the story when my daughter was little right we pulled up next to this guy and

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her uncle my wife’s brother was infecting her with the

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So there’s two universities around here. One is OSU, Oregon State University, and there’s U of O, which is University of Oregon.

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The University of Oregon is the Ducks, OSU is the Beavers, and he is a Beavers fan, so he would infect her with the anti-duck hatred.

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And so whenever she would see the green O on somebody’s car, she would say, “Duck lover!”

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And so one day we pull up beside this guy, it’s hot and it’s hot, it’s summertime, windows are down.

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First of all, she’s little, so she’s sitting in the back behind tinted windows where he

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can’t see her.

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She’s in her booster seat back there and she goes, “Duck lover!

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And smoker!”

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And he just looks over at me.

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He looked at me like he was going to climb through his window into mine and choke me

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to death.

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And I was like, “You know, I really can’t blame you, but she’s got some points there,

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buddy.”

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So you have Amazon Prime, right?

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Yes.

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And so you have Amazon Prime Video.

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Yes.

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Which you probably never use because you’re an Apple TV user, right?

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No, I use a…

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You can watch Amazon Prime Video on Apple TV.

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I know you can, but I also know that you’re like this Apple lover.

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And you know, you’re kind of a purist.

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Most of the stuff I watch isn’t on Apple TV.

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I mean, most of the stuff I watch is not…

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Everything we watch is on our Apple TV, the physical device.

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But not the service.

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Right. Most of it’s on Netflix or Hulu.

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Hulu’s our live streaming TV.

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Got it. Well, anyway, on Amazon Prime,

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the newest Russell Crowe movie was released really like made

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just for Amazon Prime, like Amazon studios.

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It’s called Unhinged and Russell Crowe plays

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an unhinged ex-husband.

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Are you sure he’s not just playing himself?

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Isn’t he the guy who beat someone up with a telephone

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or threw a phone in a hotel lobby or?

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Could be, could be, I don’t know.

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But it opens with a pretty strong scene.

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But then the scene where the protagonist gets involved starts with a scene very

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similar to what you just described minus the ducks. It’s pretty funny.

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Yeah.

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It’s basically a road rage, a road rage movie with Russell Crowe as the bad guy.

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I mean, I was like, you know, I would normally apologize, but she’s right.

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There you go.

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Uh, uh, duck lover. Yeah. I mean,

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she didn’t say it was bad, but smoke.

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Well, the tone of her voice said it was all bad. She was very disgusted.

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Yeah. Kids have a way of duck lover, duck lover, and smoker.

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That’s one of the things like when I see like an attractive woman,

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there are a couple of things that are immediate turnoffs.

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One of them is a wedding ring. Another would be a cigarette.

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And then, I guess I saw this once in an HR handbook,

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bizarre piercings or tattoos.

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What does that mean?

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So that is so subjective.

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I guess it’s up to interpretation.

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It is totally subjective.

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I saw a waitress, not really waitress,

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like clean up help staff at Shake Shack a few days ago.

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We don’t have a Shake Shack.

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Shake Shack’s like a burger joint.

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Yeah, we don’t have it.

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Okay, well we do.

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I think it might be an East Coast thing,

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maybe even a Northeast Coast thing.

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Damn it, Peter.

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But she had a pierced frenum and she did it herself.

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Oh, ouch.

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So like when she smiled and bared her fangs,

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or you saw this like inverted horseshoe thing

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hanging down in front of her two incisors.

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And I looked at it and I was just like,

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yeah, that’s not a turn on at all.

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Not attractive.

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Yeah, that’s fine.

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I mean, look, people should do what they wanna do.

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I didn’t tell her, “Hey, rip that off. It’s gross.”

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You know, it was just like…

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You and I are not people who believe

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that women’s goal in life should be to be attractive

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to all men and do whatever makes men happy.

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Like, you know, the old thing of you should smile more

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does deserve a punch in the face.

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Let’s be honest.

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I think everybody should smile for,

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But… for, smile more, the beer.

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Right, but telling a woman to smile more,

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that is just like, you’re here for my amusement.

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You must smile so that I can feel happy about you.

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I think I should smile more.

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Right. But that’s not why men say that to women.

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Correct.

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So anyway, but the point is you’re, yeah,

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you’re just not attracted to the piercings in that way.

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Or in that location.

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There are some things that you should not buy

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the self-install kit for.

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That’s all I’m going to say.

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No, no. You’re going to say more.

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No, that’s it.

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That’s one of them.

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Well, give me an example.

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Well, what you just talked about.

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Don’t buy the self-install kit for that.

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Oh!

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The self install kit for front end piercing. Got it. Got it.

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Okay. Yeah. I’m good. I thought you were going to talk about like,

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Get them if you want them, but let the professionals do it.

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Yeah. I thought you were going to say something like, you know,

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Wemo light switches or something.

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No, no, no, no, no. Install all those all yourself all you want,

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but don’t do the body piercings by yourself. Let the professionals do it.

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Make sure they burn their instruments in fire first and then

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So they scald themselves when they go to pick them up.

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And then they burn you when they stick them in because they’re still hot.

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So I got my latest certification last week.

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What is your certification?

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Amazon Certified Cloud Practitioner.

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The most entry level basic junior AWS.

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What does that even mean? You’re a practitioner of the Amazon cloud.

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It means I can tell you about the basics of most of the Amazon cloud services,

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AWS services.

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All right, well, I can tell you about the basics too. Here it goes.

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It is a cloud service that a lot of different companies and people use and a lot of services use.

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And any time AWS goes down, 99% of the streaming services or anything useful that you use on the internet is down.

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There, that’s it.

00:20:08.360 —> 00:20:10.060
That’s pretty good. Pretty good.

00:20:10.060 —> 00:20:13.760
The stuff I learned is slightly more useful and applicable to business.

00:20:13.760 —> 00:20:15.160
Oh, that hurts, Peter.

00:20:15.160 —> 00:20:17.660
I’d said slightly.

00:20:17.660 —> 00:20:20.060
Throw me a fricking bone here.

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So for example, there’s this service called AWS Athena.

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OK.

00:20:25.220 —> 00:20:25.880
I’ve heard of it.

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Which I learned about and was able to, like, the next day

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apply to one of my clients.

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It was pretty cool.

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It’s a service that lets you conduct

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SQL queries against data files stored in Amazon S3.

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As you should.

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There you go.

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And as it happened, I had a client who said,

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we have a bunch of data in S3.

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and our customer wants to access it,

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but we don’t want to give them unrestricted access

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to the bucket.

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So we suggested maybe we can import the data

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into MySQL for them,

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but now you have yet another point of entry or egress

00:21:04.380 —> 00:21:07.540
for the data in the cloud that needs to be secured.

00:21:07.540 —> 00:21:10.140
And I was like, but you could give them access to Athena

00:21:10.140 —> 00:21:12.940
and then your data is really stored only in one place.

00:21:12.940 —> 00:21:14.500
So it makes it a little easier to control.

00:21:14.500 —> 00:21:16.580
So that was pretty cool.

00:21:16.580 —> 00:21:20.380
I have never used Amazon AWS.

00:21:20.380 —> 00:21:25.180
However, I have, Vic and I have played a tiny bit with,

00:21:25.180 —> 00:21:26.020
what do they call it?

00:21:26.020 —> 00:21:28.500
B2Z, it’s the Backblaze,

00:21:28.500 —> 00:21:31.780
it’s basically the Backblaze version of AWS.

00:21:31.780 —> 00:21:34.220
Because we’re, ‘cause I have a Backblaze account

00:21:34.220 —> 00:21:39.220
and we can actually use that and add the BW,

00:21:39.220 —> 00:21:42.740
whatever it is, BWZ, B2Z, whatever they call it.

00:21:42.740 —> 00:21:45.000
We can use that to back our servers up too.

00:21:45.000 —> 00:21:52.080
And as long as we don’t actually have a major incident where we have to download all that stuff again, it’s basically free.

00:21:52.080 —> 00:21:55.080
The costs come in when we start pulling it back down.

00:21:55.080 —> 00:22:01.320
Yeah, and AWS, a lot of that is the same. They’re a Glacier service. It costs almost nothing to put data into it.

00:22:01.320 —> 00:22:01.820
Right.

00:22:01.820 —> 00:22:04.180
And they really slam you when you have to pull stuff out of it again.

00:22:04.180 —> 00:22:08.720
Exactly, yeah. And so we’re going to use it as a backup.

00:22:08.720 —> 00:22:09.220
Gotcha.

00:22:09.220 —> 00:22:09.720
Yeah.

00:22:09.720 —> 00:22:10.220
That’s cool.

00:22:10.220 —> 00:22:10.720
Yeah.

00:22:10.720 —> 00:22:11.920
I’m looking forward to learning more.

00:22:11.920 —> 00:22:16.920
I’m studying now for the AWS Associate Solutions Architect.

00:22:16.920 —> 00:22:17.900
And then from there,

00:22:17.900 —> 00:22:22.400
I’ll probably try to grab the Cloud Security Practitioner cert.

00:22:22.400 —> 00:22:24.800
So those are my goals for 2021.

00:22:24.800 —> 00:22:26.320
Are you a Docker guy?

00:22:26.320 —> 00:22:27.460
Do you know all about Dockers?

00:22:27.460 —> 00:22:28.560
Not really, no.

00:22:28.560 —> 00:22:30.800
I’m gonna start to learn some of that

00:22:30.800 —> 00:22:31.840
as part of this, however.

00:22:31.840 —> 00:22:32.840
Yeah, I’m starting to think

00:22:32.840 —> 00:22:36.600
that Docker sounds like a good way.

00:22:36.600 —> 00:22:39.120
Obviously it’s meant for deploying stuff, right?

00:22:39.120 —> 00:22:42.120
like you have one image, this is how you deploy it

00:22:42.120 —> 00:22:45.200
and get it up and running super fast, I get that.

00:22:45.200 —> 00:22:47.720
But it also sounds like it would be really good

00:22:47.720 —> 00:22:50.520
for just restoring stuff to a known state really fast.

00:22:50.520 —> 00:22:53.240
Absolutely.

00:22:53.240 —> 00:22:55.400
Yeah, I have not yet doctored much.

00:22:55.400 —> 00:22:58.720
I played with it very little, just very, very little.

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But I am curious, AWS has two different

00:23:02.000 —> 00:23:05.360
like Docker platform things that you can do stuff with,

00:23:05.360 —> 00:23:07.120
which I’m like, okay, that sounds really cool,

00:23:07.120 —> 00:23:11.160
but I still don’t really know what it means. So, I’m new at that.

00:23:11.160 —> 00:23:13.760
Peter, I have a suggestion. Can’t wait.

00:23:13.760 —> 00:23:16.520
Well, no, it’s not that.

00:23:16.520 —> 00:23:17.760
Oh, I thought it was a soundboard.

00:23:17.760 —> 00:23:20.640
I’ve given up on that. You said no long distance relationships.

00:23:20.640 —> 00:23:24.200
[Laughter]

00:23:24.200 —> 00:23:29.000
I wish the viewers could see Peter with his head on his podcast microphone right now into his spare.

00:23:29.000 —> 00:23:30.160
[Music]

00:23:30.160 —> 00:23:32.120
Yeah, there you go.

00:23:32.120 —> 00:23:36.320
That’s the sound of me hitting my slamming my forehead into my microphone.

00:23:36.320 —> 00:23:38.620
If you want to run and grab another one, that’s fine.

00:23:38.620 —> 00:23:40.020
I think I’m going to do the same myself.

00:23:40.020 —> 00:23:40.860
I’m going to go get a 12 ounce though.

00:23:40.860 —> 00:23:41.700
This one?

00:23:41.700 —> 00:23:42.520
Yeah, okay.

00:23:42.520 —> 00:23:43.420
Give me a minute.

00:23:43.420 —> 00:23:44.260
I’ll be back.

00:23:44.260 —> 00:23:45.740
Talk to the listener.

00:23:45.740 —> 00:23:47.640
I will talk to you, dear listener.

00:23:47.640 —> 00:23:48.880
Scott is going to miss this.

00:23:48.880 —> 00:23:53.880
He’s not going to hear me opening my Ithaca Beer Company,

00:23:53.880 —> 00:23:55.080
Aprica Wheat,

00:23:55.080 —> 00:23:56.960
Aprica, Aprica,

00:23:56.960 —> 00:24:00.880
Ithaca Beer Company, Apricot Wheat beer.

00:24:00.880 —> 00:24:04.840
It says it’s a wheat ale with natural apricot flavor.

00:24:04.840 —> 00:24:07.840
And the reason I chose this one was number one,

00:24:07.840 —> 00:24:09.680
I like wheat beers.

00:24:09.680 —> 00:24:14.440
And number two, my grandparents used to live near Ithaca

00:24:14.440 —> 00:24:16.020
in upstate New York.

00:24:16.020 —> 00:24:19.260
So this reminded me of when we would go visit them

00:24:19.260 —> 00:24:20.400
in the summers.

00:24:20.400 —> 00:24:22.580
So that’s what I’m pouring here now.

00:24:22.580 —> 00:24:26.800
So I’m on a kick here.

00:24:26.800 —> 00:24:28.920
There’s a definite theme to my beers this week.

00:24:28.920 —> 00:24:32.240
Fruit infused wheat beers.

00:24:32.240 —> 00:24:34.840
Sniff definitely smells a little…

00:24:34.840 —> 00:24:38.880
Snuff smells a little apricot-y for sure.

00:24:38.880 —> 00:24:42.080
Also the faintest hint of wet dog.

00:24:42.080 —> 00:24:43.080
[Laughter]

00:24:43.080 —> 00:24:45.840
Wow, that was a weird time to come into that conversation.

00:24:45.840 —> 00:24:46.840
[Laughter]

00:24:46.840 —> 00:24:47.840
I timed it perfectly.

00:24:47.840 —> 00:24:49.360
I’m gonna sip this now.

00:24:49.360 —> 00:24:52.080
The faintest hint of wet dog.

00:24:52.080 —> 00:24:53.480
You know what?

00:24:53.480 —> 00:24:58.120
It tastes much more like apricot than wet dog and that is a good thing.

00:24:58.120 —> 00:25:00.480
Just show me a bottle please.

00:25:00.480 —> 00:25:01.480
Ithaca.

00:25:01.480 —> 00:25:06.160
Yeah, so I did explain to the listener and you can catch it in post exactly why I chose

00:25:06.160 —> 00:25:07.160
this beard.

00:25:07.160 —> 00:25:08.520
I can catch it in post and get the link.

00:25:08.520 —> 00:25:09.520
Yeah, that sounds good.

00:25:09.520 —> 00:25:18.920
Yeah, I think every podcast should have a little bit of a whiff of wet dog.

00:25:18.920 —> 00:25:19.920
Don’t spray the mic.

00:25:19.920 —> 00:25:20.920
A whiff of wet dog.

00:25:20.920 —> 00:25:21.920
That was so close.

00:25:21.920 —> 00:25:22.920
Yeah.

00:25:22.920 —> 00:25:30.080
Speaking of whiffs, I found a whiffle ball the other day as I was getting out of my kayak.

00:25:30.080 —> 00:25:31.980
I can’t believe this is what we’ve sunk to. Okay.

00:25:31.980 —> 00:25:33.380
For my kayak run. There was a,

00:25:33.380 —> 00:25:35.980
there was a wiffle ball there and I fished it out of the river.

00:25:35.980 —> 00:25:37.260
Talk about your kayaking.

00:25:37.260 —> 00:25:42.620
My kayak, I bought a Drift Sun Rover 220. I think it’s a 220.

00:25:42.620 —> 00:25:48.180
It’s an inflatable 12 foot inflatable two or one person kayak.

00:25:48.180 —> 00:25:52.820
Yes. Yes. And I love it. Okay. It is fun. I’ve been getting out on it.

00:25:52.820 —> 00:25:54.740
I don’t know. I’d say maybe a couple of times a week.

00:25:54.740 —> 00:25:58.940
I might even go after this cause it’s nice and warm outside and I live like a

00:25:58.940 —> 00:26:01.900
literal stone’s throw from the Mystic River.

00:26:01.900 —> 00:26:03.200
So I can just…

00:26:03.200 —> 00:26:04.840
carry it right down to the shore…

00:26:04.840 —> 00:26:05.340
Wait a minute.

00:26:05.340 —> 00:26:07.020
Throw it in the water, jump in, and go.

00:26:07.020 —> 00:26:07.980
Uh, uh, uh…

00:26:07.980 —> 00:26:09.840
Mystic River?

00:26:09.840 —> 00:26:10.340
Yeah.

00:26:10.340 —> 00:26:13.300
Wait, do you have Mystic Pizza there too?

00:26:13.300 —> 00:26:15.600
Uh, there’s probably a Mystic Pizza somewhere nearby.

00:26:15.600 —> 00:26:17.980
Are you old enough to know what I’m talking about?

00:26:17.980 —> 00:26:18.740
Wasn’t that a movie?

00:26:18.740 —> 00:26:19.940
Yeah, exactly.

00:26:19.940 —> 00:26:20.640
Yeah.

00:26:20.640 —> 00:26:21.140
A dumb…

00:26:21.140 —> 00:26:21.840
I don’t… I don’t…

00:26:21.840 —> 00:26:24.240
I never saw the movie, but I thought it was a movie.

00:26:24.240 —> 00:26:24.940
I won’t touch it.

00:26:24.940 —> 00:26:25.540
It was a movie.

00:26:25.540 —> 00:26:28.440
I used to work in a video store when I was young, so…

00:26:28.440 —> 00:26:30.080
Ah, Video Store.

00:26:30.080 —> 00:26:30.840
Right.

00:26:30.840 —> 00:26:32.540
So here’s my second beer, Pitor.

00:26:32.540 —> 00:26:33.380
What have you got?

00:26:33.380 —> 00:26:36.640
Vanishing Point Pale Ale, and it is not an IPA,

00:26:36.640 —> 00:26:37.940
it is an APA.

00:26:37.940 —> 00:26:39.840
An American Pale Ale.

00:26:39.840 —> 00:26:42.160
Yeah, and I gotta tell you, I’ve had one of these before,

00:26:42.160 —> 00:26:43.520
so I can already give you the review.

00:26:43.520 —> 00:26:47.720
Oh, this is by Ghost Fish Brewing Company, actually.

00:26:47.720 —> 00:26:50.200
It’s a little hoppy.

00:26:50.200 —> 00:26:52.460
It’s pretty good, it’s not as bad

00:26:52.460 —> 00:26:54.180
as many of the IPAs I’ve had,

00:26:54.180 —> 00:26:56.440
but it’s not as good as the beer I just had.

00:26:56.440 —> 00:26:57.800
It’s a little hoppy.

00:26:57.800 —> 00:27:05.400
Fair enough. But it’s okay. So I remember you used to be into, maybe you still are, Russian dash cam videos.

00:27:05.400 —> 00:27:09.260
Yeah, I don’t spend a lot of time watching those anymore, but they are hilarious.

00:27:09.260 —> 00:27:13.320
So I think I’ve mentioned it. I know I’ve talked about this on Blurring the Lines.

00:27:13.320 —> 00:27:17.640
I don’t know if I mentioned it here though, but I pay for YouTube Premium. Okay.

00:27:17.640 —> 00:27:23.420
Which is basically just to get rid of the ads. It’s very much reasonable. It’s justifiable.

00:27:23.420 —> 00:27:26.280
It is a justifiable expense.

00:27:26.680 —> 00:27:32.200
Yes, cheers to no ads to no ads. Yeah, do the ads be gone of the world? No, of course

00:27:32.200 —> 00:27:40.120
Smart folks are now just embedding the ads in their episodes. So yeah like folks. Hey, you know, uh, blah blah blah I use

00:27:40.120 —> 00:27:47.240
This vpn provider and you should too and you know, yada yada yada. So yeah, there’s nothing like a lame read, right?

00:27:47.240 —> 00:27:50.520
So I you know, I move through those. Well, let me put it this way

00:27:50.520 —> 00:27:56.280
I’d rather have a lame read by the person doing making the content than an dynamically inserted ad

00:27:56.280 —> 00:28:03.120
Yep, agreed. I totally agree because at least I like the personality who’s doing it. So there’s

00:28:03.120 —> 00:28:08.400
some reason for me to pay attention. There’s one company or one channel though that I really like,

00:28:08.400 —> 00:28:13.320
well I don’t actually subscribe to the whole screen rant channel, but a subset of that is

00:28:13.320 —> 00:28:20.440
this guy Ryan George and he does a series called Pitch Meeting and it is hilarious. I love it. It

00:28:20.440 —> 00:28:28.280
It makes me smile, it’s funny, he plays two parts he plays a screenwriter and a producer.

00:28:28.280 —> 00:28:29.800
I’ve seen some of these, yeah.

00:28:29.800 —> 00:28:33.160
I like it enough, I’m not wearing it today but I actually bought the t-shirt.

00:28:33.160 —> 00:28:33.960
Did you?

00:28:33.960 —> 00:28:39.400
And it’s just freaking hilarious, I love it and that’s like one of the reasons I have it’s like,

00:28:39.400 —> 00:28:45.160
so I know that I will never see an ad dynamically injected into that. So, I was just thinking about

00:28:45.160 —> 00:28:49.440
about that reconsidering like all of my streaming services that I pay for.

00:28:49.440 —> 00:28:51.040
Right. I’ve got Amazon Prime.

00:28:51.040 —> 00:28:55.080
I’ve got YouTube Premium, Disney Plus and Hulu.

00:28:55.080 —> 00:28:57.640
I get through my cell phone provider now.

00:28:57.640 —> 00:29:00.200
Okay. As well as Apple Music.

00:29:00.200 —> 00:29:02.320
So I don’t have any of the premiums.

00:29:02.320 —> 00:29:03.880
Right. I don’t have the but I don’t know.

00:29:03.880 —> 00:29:09.560
The Disney Plus one includes ESPN access through Hulu, which is bizarre.

00:29:09.560 —> 00:29:11.480
Well, they own Hulu now.

00:29:11.480 —> 00:29:13.160
Right. They own most of Hulu.

00:29:13.160 —> 00:29:14.280
Yeah. Right. Right.

00:29:14.480 —> 00:29:18.760
like Jungle Cruise or whatever the new Dwayne Johnson movie just came out.

00:29:18.760 —> 00:29:20.240
I don’t have access to that.

00:29:20.240 —> 00:29:21.120
You have to pay for it.

00:29:21.120 —> 00:29:22.400
Right, exactly.

00:29:22.400 —> 00:29:27.280
Well, because they’re trying to, I mean, they’re all trying to figure out how to,

00:29:27.280 —> 00:29:30.280
movies that they understand that theater’s going away or

00:29:30.280 —> 00:29:32.280
at least it’s not as popular right now.

00:29:32.280 —> 00:29:33.080
Yes.

00:29:33.080 —> 00:29:36.880
They’ve got to charge for access for some stuff.

00:29:36.880 —> 00:29:37.560
Or do they?

00:29:37.560 —> 00:29:39.520
I mean, they’re charging a monthly fee already.

00:29:39.520 —> 00:29:40.240
So But Peter,

00:29:40.240 —> 00:29:43.240
it would take a long time for that monthly fee to add up to what they were making

00:29:43.240 —> 00:29:48.440
the box office. Probably right. So I don’t know if like there’s a package where you get all the

00:29:48.440 —> 00:29:53.000
movies included. I don’t have that. That’s where I was going with that. But I don’t pay for Netflix.

00:29:53.000 —> 00:29:58.520
I don’t pay for HBO Max at this point. Correct. So although there’s stuff on there that I would like

00:29:58.520 —> 00:30:04.520
to see at some point. I have Netflix still, but I personally could live without it. I realized I

00:30:04.520 —> 00:30:10.280
just don’t even use it, but my wife uses it to watch Korean shows. Right. And my daughter

00:30:10.280 —> 00:30:16.600
uses it to watch, I don’t know what she watches. And I don’t pay for Apple TV Plus? I do, well,

00:30:16.600 —> 00:30:22.840
it’s part of my bundle. You have what, Apple One? Yeah. Right, Apple One. Yeah, because I was

00:30:22.840 —> 00:30:27.000
already paying for two terabytes of storage already anyway, and I figured it all out and I was like,

00:30:27.000 —> 00:30:31.560
you know what, by the time I add up all these things, the bundle costs the same, I’m not losing

00:30:31.560 —> 00:30:37.000
any money and I get the TV and I get the fitness. See, the fitness I would not live without at this

00:30:37.000 —> 00:30:44.040
point by now. And that’s the thing is like I already have a free membership to the yoga studio

00:30:44.040 —> 00:30:49.480
where I teach so I can access any of the classes from any of the teachers there anytime I want.

00:30:49.480 —> 00:30:56.200
Yeah. I also pay for a monthly subscription to access to live and to recordings from one of my

00:30:56.200 —> 00:31:01.800
teachers that I did all my yin yoga training through. That’s cool. So I already pay well you

00:31:01.800 —> 00:31:06.920
know I pay for one and I’m entitled to one by my work and stuff so I already have like two other

00:31:06.920 —> 00:31:11.540
yoga studios memberships. Although I did a few of the Apple yoga, you know,

00:31:11.540 —> 00:31:15.580
Apple fitness plus yoga routines. I did enjoy them. They were decent. Yeah.

00:31:15.580 —> 00:31:19.340
I did the ones with, uh, Oh, Jesus.

00:31:19.340 —> 00:31:23.480
There’s two. I like Dustin and Jessica. Jessica. Yes.

00:31:23.480 —> 00:31:27.100
The Australian. Yeah. First time she said, frame your ears.

00:31:27.100 —> 00:31:31.020
Frame your ears. And I’m like, what’s an is, is that a yoga term?

00:31:31.020 —> 00:31:34.540
I literally did not realize she was talking about her ears.

00:31:35.100 —> 00:31:37.140
Yeah, no, the accent was kind of funny.

00:31:37.140 —> 00:31:39.760
I did, it was a little thing that made me smile.

00:31:39.760 —> 00:31:42.900
But I don’t know that I can justify doing that.

00:31:42.900 —> 00:31:47.140
And the thing is like, I get Apple Music for free now

00:31:47.140 —> 00:31:49.380
through, well, quote unquote for free,

00:31:49.380 —> 00:31:51.800
bundled in through my cell phone plan.

00:31:51.800 —> 00:31:56.800
So like if I didn’t have Apple Music, I might be tempted

00:31:56.800 —> 00:31:59.300
’cause the only thing I do is I pay for Apple Care,

00:31:59.300 —> 00:32:01.140
which is not part of Apple One, right?

00:32:01.140 —> 00:32:01.980
That is correct.

00:32:01.980 —> 00:32:09.700
pay for extra storage but not the two terabytes. So, you know, I’m paying a little bit of iCloud

00:32:09.700 —> 00:32:16.700
storage and that’s it, you know, so I don’t have the incentive. So, but I will go back

00:32:16.700 —> 00:32:22.700
to Apple TV probably in a few months when C has finished season two and then I’ll binge

00:32:22.700 —> 00:32:26.980
that and Ted Lasso. So, that’s what I plan to do.

00:32:26.980 —> 00:32:29.980
So far Ted Lasso season two is pretty good.

00:32:29.980 —> 00:32:32.260
I saw episode one and I liked it.

00:32:32.260 —> 00:32:35.660
Episode two gave me joy because…

00:32:35.660 —> 00:32:36.500
Did it make you smile?

00:32:36.500 —> 00:32:40.740
Yeah, and I have a episode in the can for Bulbasaur TV

00:32:40.740 —> 00:32:44.180
about that episode that I’ll edit and release soon,

00:32:44.180 —> 00:32:46.360
hopefully, but you can listen to that

00:32:46.360 —> 00:32:47.420
to get our feelings on that.

00:32:47.420 —> 00:32:49.580
But I feel like it’s gonna be a little bit

00:32:49.580 —> 00:32:51.720
of a deeper story than I originally thought.

00:32:51.720 —> 00:32:53.260
I think they’re going somewhere with it

00:32:53.260 —> 00:32:54.540
and that’s really cool.

00:32:55.920 —> 00:32:58.100
I look forward to seeing it in…

00:32:58.100 —> 00:32:59.940
October.

00:32:59.940 —> 00:33:03.540
Oh, then maybe you don’t want to listen to our podcast.

00:33:03.540 —> 00:33:06.140
Probably not. Not if there’s spoilers.

00:33:06.140 —> 00:33:07.260
Damn it, Peter.

00:33:07.260 —> 00:33:09.380
I made the podcast with you in mind.

00:33:09.380 —> 00:33:10.740
I was thinking about you the whole time.

00:33:10.740 —> 00:33:12.420
Well, that’s great.

00:33:12.420 —> 00:33:15.740
You didn’t say that I had to listen to it immediately on the release date.

00:33:15.740 —> 00:33:16.540
That’s true.

00:33:16.540 —> 00:33:19.100
So that’ll be fun.

00:33:19.100 —> 00:33:20.340
Yeah, that’s it.

00:33:20.340 —> 00:33:23.180
I’m looking forward to a new Mac when and if they announce them.

00:33:23.620 —> 00:33:29.700
Apparently Apple, go figure, Apple is apparently also affected by this chip shortage that’s affecting the entire world, huh?

00:33:29.700 —> 00:33:32.260
Yeah, of course, but they said they weren’t going to be in the conference call.

00:33:32.260 —> 00:33:34.420
I thought they said they were not going to be Mac constrained.

00:33:34.420 —> 00:33:38.820
They’re going to be iPad constrained still, and they’re going to be iPhone mostly iPhone constrained.

00:33:38.820 —> 00:33:39.060
Yeah.

00:33:39.060 —> 00:33:43.620
Which is interesting though, because I mean the big chip, I don’t know.

00:33:43.620 —> 00:33:48.180
So, so for some reason the M2 or M1X or whatnot is not affected by this?

00:33:48.180 —> 00:33:50.420
Well, they make the M2.

00:33:50.420 —> 00:33:52.460
Don’t they make A whatevers too?

00:33:52.460 —> 00:33:57.180
Yeah, but it’s not because of their own chips that they’re constrained.

00:33:57.180 —> 00:34:00.380
It’s because of other parts that go into the devices.

00:34:00.380 —> 00:34:01.900
Okay.

00:34:01.900 —> 00:34:04.060
But not the parts that are going into the Macs.

00:34:04.060 —> 00:34:06.420
Apparently.

00:34:06.420 —> 00:34:07.260
Correct.

00:34:07.260 —> 00:34:08.900
Or whatever.

00:34:08.900 —> 00:34:11.140
Well, also the Macs don’t sell on the same volumes.

00:34:11.140 —> 00:34:12.220
Not like iPhones.

00:34:12.220 —> 00:34:15.020
iPhones sell on way more volumes than Macs do.

00:34:15.020 —> 00:34:16.820
Even though Macs are having good quarters.

00:34:16.820 —> 00:34:20.500
They’re selling a lot of Macs, but they’re piddling compared to iPhones.

00:34:21.380 —> 00:34:24.180
Well, I am looking forward to getting myself a new Mac this year.

00:34:24.180 —> 00:34:26.260
And again, that would be a first for me.

00:34:26.260 —> 00:34:31.060
New watch, phone and Mac in the same year.

00:34:31.060 —> 00:34:33.260
Yeah, I would be. That’s big for me.

00:34:33.260 —> 00:34:35.100
Spent a lot of money on an iPad Pro.

00:34:35.100 —> 00:34:37.620
And that was actually one thing I was doing today was

00:34:37.620 —> 00:34:44.900
so I bought a 2020 iPad Pro and I used it so much that I thought when the 2021

00:34:44.900 —> 00:34:47.220
M1 iPad Pro came out, I thought, you know what?

00:34:47.420 —> 00:34:52.460
gonna buy that because I use this so much that I know now that I want more

00:34:52.460 —> 00:34:58.220
internal storage and I want to upgrade to a model of cellular. Mm-hmm. So I said

00:34:58.220 —> 00:35:02.940
I’ll buy it and I’ll trade in my other one. Mm-hmm. They offered me $580 for my

00:35:02.940 —> 00:35:07.420
trade-in and I said okay fine. I added it to my order and then I started thinking

00:35:07.420 —> 00:35:12.500
about it I thought you know $580 I’m just gonna give this to my daughter and

00:35:12.500 —> 00:35:16.620
then my wife can have the iPad Air that my daughter is using now and that’ll

00:35:16.620 —> 00:35:18.140
last them a long time.

00:35:18.140 —> 00:35:21.000
Mm hmm. So I canceled my trade in.

00:35:21.000 —> 00:35:23.380
Okay, but I called it in.

00:35:23.380 —> 00:35:25.080
They said they canceled it,

00:35:25.080 —> 00:35:28.340
but it still showed on my order details

00:35:28.340 —> 00:35:29.660
and I thought, okay, I’m not going to do

00:35:29.660 —> 00:35:31.580
anything until this thing ships because I

00:35:31.580 —> 00:35:33.180
don’t want them to cancel my order.

00:35:33.180 —> 00:35:35.140
So I waited and as soon as you shipped,

00:35:35.140 —> 00:35:37.080
I called him again and this time they

00:35:37.080 —> 00:35:38.420
said they cancel it and this time it did

00:35:38.420 —> 00:35:40.140
disappear. Here’s the problem though.

00:35:40.140 —> 00:35:42.060
580 bucks.

00:35:42.060 —> 00:35:44.020
So what do you think would happen if

00:35:44.020 —> 00:35:46.260
they’re gonna if they charged you for

00:35:46.260 —> 00:35:50.420
an iPad Pro minus $580 for the trade in and then you cancel the trade in.

00:35:50.420 —> 00:35:52.620
They’re going to charge you that, right?

00:35:52.620 —> 00:35:54.620
You think they charged me twice.

00:35:54.620 —> 00:35:59.020
They charged me once on May 23rd and once on June 10th.

00:35:59.020 —> 00:36:03.720
And I am going in circles right now trying to get somebody

00:36:03.720 —> 00:36:07.020
who cares to take this charge off of my credit card.

00:36:07.020 —> 00:36:12.560
It’s hard to be the company with the biggest market cap in the world.

00:36:12.560 —> 00:36:15.700
So you’ve got to sometimes you got to just double up on things.

00:36:15.720 —> 00:36:19.000
I’m starting to understand how they made 40 billion dollars or whatever it was.

00:36:19.000 —> 00:36:19.880
There you go.

00:36:19.880 —> 00:36:25.320
Actually I think this quarter was in the 50s, right? 50s, 70s, I don’t even remember.

00:36:25.320 —> 00:36:26.440
I don’t even know.

00:36:26.440 —> 00:36:26.940
It’s huge.

00:36:26.940 —> 00:36:34.680
I did do a brief discussion post on that though in my class that I’m taking in management right now.

00:36:34.680 —> 00:36:42.360
And one of the questions was, should Apple take an ethical stance

00:36:43.320 —> 00:36:50.320
to try to affect the quality of life of its supply chains workers.

00:36:50.320 —> 00:36:55.040
You know, so like people in the mines and people, you know, recycling silicon.

00:36:55.040 —> 00:36:56.040
Oh, I think they are.

00:36:56.040 —> 00:36:57.040
Things.

00:36:57.040 —> 00:36:58.360
I think they are trying to change those gradually.

00:36:58.360 —> 00:36:59.360
Right.

00:36:59.360 —> 00:37:00.360
Well, the question is, should they?

00:37:00.360 —> 00:37:03.000
Like, do they have an obligation to do so?

00:37:03.000 —> 00:37:05.280
Well, from a financial aspect, only no.

00:37:05.280 —> 00:37:07.080
But from a… yeah, they do.

00:37:07.080 —> 00:37:10.120
They have a… yes, all tech companies do.

00:37:10.120 —> 00:37:11.920
It’s just that most of them don’t care.

00:37:11.920 —> 00:37:12.920
Correct.

00:37:12.920 —> 00:37:14.920
Most of them do not care.

00:37:14.920 —> 00:37:18.920
Well, the problem is that Apple is the one that gets called out all the time.

00:37:18.920 —> 00:37:20.920
Well, because it’s lonely at the top.

00:37:20.920 —> 00:37:24.920
Well, yeah, because if you call out Apple on something, people will read your article.

00:37:24.920 —> 00:37:26.920
There you go.

00:37:26.920 —> 00:37:28.920
If you’re just talking about raw capitalism, no.

00:37:28.920 —> 00:37:34.920
By the ethics of raw capitalism, no, that’s not the point. The point is to make shareholders money.

00:37:34.920 —> 00:37:39.920
And caring about the working conditions of people does not make shareholders money.

00:37:39.920 —> 00:37:45.800
Correct. And that gets into the whole shareholder versus stakeholder theory,

00:37:45.800 —> 00:37:50.040
which I thought was starting to make a comeback right before COVID.

00:37:50.040 —> 00:37:54.480
But then it went back to like bat in the hatches and stakeholder defender mode.

00:37:54.480 —> 00:37:56.440
What’s the difference between a stakeholder and a shareholder?

00:37:56.440 —> 00:37:59.320
Shareholder is someone who owns a part of the company.

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Stakeholder is everybody with an interest in the company and its actions.

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So if Apple was to put a new fab plant in your hometown,

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you’re going to be affected by that one way or another.

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And therefore you’re a stakeholder. So taking into consideration,

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everybody who has some kind of stake in an endeavor versus,

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Oh,

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you happen to live near where we’re putting a new fab plant and you know,

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we’re going to pollute the hell out of your backyard and make your property worth

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next to nothing and have to leave, you know, for pennies on the dollar. Oh, well, you know,

00:38:36.680 —> 00:38:38.840
so that’s the difference between stakeholder and shareholder.

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Right, right.

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Theory.

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Yeah.

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So, that’s one of the things that was brought up in one of my classes that I really enjoyed.

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Whew, I am feeling my beer.

00:38:50.840 —> 00:38:54.120
I am too. So, you could say that we’re shareholders in this podcast, but the people listening

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are stakeholders.

00:38:55.920 —> 00:38:58.240
They are. They are indeed, but they’re not shareholders.

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Right.

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So, you and I are the only shareholders in this podcast.

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Right. We haven’t gone public yet.

00:39:02.200 —> 00:39:07.400
amazing endeavor that we’re making and all the… So popular. So many listeners.

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Cash that we’re making. By the way, we would love feedback. How can people

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feedback us, Peter? They can feedback us at friendswithbeer.com or beer.tweetpack.us

00:39:21.880 —> 00:39:27.800
which will take you to twitter.com/friendswbeerpod. No one’s ever gonna

00:39:27.800 —> 00:39:35.240
remember that but yeah you can do that too. I know. Yeah, yeah exactly. I know. They will remember,

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damn it. I had a boss that used to say end all your sentences and damn it.

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And I tried to explain that to my daughter and she’s like why? And I said it’s not about the

00:39:45.480 —> 00:39:49.320
swearing. I mean some things I do. It’s not about the swearing, it’s about he wants people to have

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conviction in their ideas. But I just love that. End all your sentences and damn it. Well, on that

00:39:56.120 —> 00:39:59.340
On that note, I think it’s time we start to wrap up this episode, dammit.

00:39:59.340 —> 00:40:00.340
Okay, sounds good.

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[Door closes]

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I think people that listen to us should definitely tell their friends, don’t you?

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Tell your friends!

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Dammit.

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Tell your friends, dammit.

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End all your sentences in dammit, end all your beers in dammit.

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What are they supposed to tell your friends, dammit?

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Mm.

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Do you have 10 minutes to record a beer sides after this?

00:40:17.600 —> 00:40:18.600
Sure.

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Yay, listeners!

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What’s the difference between a beer sides and a regular?

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Well, we so oh!

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Remember, didn’t I tell you last time?

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Here, didn’t I tell you last time?

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Oh, Vic was like, what’s the difference between your beer sides in regular

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episodes? And I realized there is no difference.

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And therefore, there’s no reason to have a beer sides. Yes, exactly.

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Let’s make beer sides be shorter. OK.

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I don’t know what like I still don’t know what the difference is, but let’s do it.

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OK. All right. So this episode is wrapping.

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This is in the can.

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You can’t see it listener, but I’m holding up a can.

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It’s in the beer can.

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This episode is in the can.

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and we’re gonna, as we say on the Blurring the Lines podcast, we’re gonna hit the big red button.

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All right, here we go.

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Only here I don’t have a big red button, I just have a blue and white stop recording button.

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But I’m gonna put that now at the 45 minute mark. Boom.