Episode 3 – Drinking on Empty

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Peter and Scott are drinking on empty, which isn't always the best bad idea. Peter likes to smile at tire pressure monitors, smoking duck lovers are people kids don't like, and you should always end all your sentences in "dammit"!
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Friends with beer.

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You look confused, Peter.

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What the hell was that?

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That was friends with beer.

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Yeah, I know, but that’s new.

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Yeah.

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And therefore I fear it.

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Okay. Friends with fear. Whatever.

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Much better.

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All right, we’re here with friends with beer.

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We’re here for friends with beer. We’re here-

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I’m doing this is already weird for me.

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Can you see why? Two friends with beer. Can you see why by looking at your picture in front of you?

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Well I can see you for one thing. Right, but what’s different? You’re sitting down. Yeah,

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I never do that when we podcast. But I just, it was one more thing that, look, I have been failing

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so hard today. I was like, I’m not going to bother taking time to adjust my desk up. That’s it, Mr.

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Scott Willsey is not going to take this podcast sitting down. Well, I guess today he is. No,

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No, I thought you were gonna say that’s it. You’re not gonna podcast me because I’m not taking it seriously.

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I mean, I could.

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Or in the words of Coach Beard…

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I don’t want to drink with someone that selfish.

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I thought that’s what you were gonna say.

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On that note, we should get to the beers. But before we get to the beers, we should introduce ourselves.

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Okay, you are Peter of the Nikolades, actually known as Peter…

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I am Peter Nikolaidis. I am your host, Peter Nikolaidis. And with me is my co-host, Scott Wilsey.

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Next time, you can be the host and I’ll be your co-host.

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Is this your iPhone?

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And I’m looking at you on… That’s why the image is so good.

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You’re seeing me on my Mac, that’s why it looks like hell.

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And because it’s dark in here.

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But you still look better than when I’m on my

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Asus whatever monitor.

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You look better than me when I’m using my Windows

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attached monitor garbage.

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I don’t know, Peter, you’re a very handsome man.

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I would dispute that.

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Fair enough.

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So let’s get to the beer, shall we?

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Show me your beer.

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I am starting today with a,

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I forget the name of the brewery.

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Blah, blah, blah.

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Jeez, okay.

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I know the name of the beer.

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I just don’t know the brewery name.

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What is this?

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Ah, I don’t know.

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Oh, 21st Amendment.

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21st Amendment Brewery.

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Okay.

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And it’s Hell or High Watermelon.

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It’s a watermelon wheat beer.

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That sounds good.

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It does.

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Have you had one of these before?

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I have had one of these before,

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but it’s been a while.

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It’s been a while.

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So taking a cue from you,

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when I went to the store,

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I bought something that I haven’t had before

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For this podcast. Apparently I’m gonna say everything three times in a row now

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So here’s what I have. How many of these have you already had?

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None. I have a gigantic brewing which is a Portland brewery project Pilsner crystal

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Okay, I like it I have never what is it I don’t know I mean it’s a crystal beer a pistol

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Pistol pistol beer Pilsner crystal. That’s great. Not even one sip down and already I can’t talk. Yeah. Well, here’s the problem

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I was going to tell you about this.

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So I may let me know if you can tell after I’ve been drinking this,

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because here’s why I went deep into calorie debt already before my day even started,

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because at midnight I was done with my workouts and I was getting ready to go take a shower.

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And I decided to have a cup, as in the measuring unit, a cup and a quarter of Tillamook’s

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finest monster cookie and cookie dough ice creams.

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Ooh. And so that right there was 480 calories.

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Sure. And then this is 300 calories. So already I’m 780 calories down.

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Got it. So what I’m saying is I’ve had very little food so far today,

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and so this is probably going to affect me. So I went on a 10k trail run right before this,

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but I made sure to eat food as soon as I got back.

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I exercised before I did this and I ate nothing afterwards.

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Right. I did not want to be that guy. Right. So I actually ate first. So that’s good though. For

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For once, let the beer hit you harder than me for a change or maybe faster.

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No, no. You’ve never been like this, Peter.

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Yeah, but I got questions that need answering.

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First, have you seen my keys?

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That was my only question.

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Oh, wait, I got another question.

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Can you start my car?

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I mean, I feel like that at work some days.

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Oh, my God. My last week was so bad.

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I was so unproductive. I was useless.

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My, I, people come to us with security requests and like, we need you to add this system to the network.

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And we ask basic questions like, what is the business purpose of this?

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What sort of data does it handle? Does it handle patient data?

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And they’re like, I don’t know.

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I thought you were gonna say, what is the network?

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Wouldn’t surprise me.

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So, but, yeah.

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As you can guess, Monolith 3000 locks down there because we have a production network and then we have the

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normal office networks and they don’t like even on the different subnets of the

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manufacturing network they don’t like things to talk to each other. What a novel concept.

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And so what they’ve done in the past right now we don’t have port security enabled on our

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particular tools but in the past they’ve done that and there were some tools that I installed

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that are actually right next to us now that I installed many years ago and what they did was

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they just enabled port security on everything so that all packet transfer failed and then we had

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to tell them which of those packets bouncing off their firewall was ours and which ones were

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important to us yeah and we had literally literally packet by packet we had to explain

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this is ours this is why it’s trying to go to that particular port this is you know it was just

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unbelievable that’s one way to do it that is definitely a way to do it

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deny all okay now prove that you need to let us allow some

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Oh goodness. Yeah. Yeah that’s um that is a way to do it. I don’t think that’s the way I would do it.

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But that’s a way a way to do it. So far my verdict on this is it’s quite good. Um my hell or high

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watermelon is very good. This is not too hoppy like an this is definitely not an IPA. This is

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definitely a pilsner. It’s no no it’s a pilsman. Yeah yeah but I’ve had some that claim not to be

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IPAs that are still a little hoppy for my taste. This one is not. Well right I mean just because

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you’re not an IPA does not mean you can’t be hoppy. Right. Be hoppy. Don’t worry, be hoppy.

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So I suggested a silly topic for today, like little things that make you smile. Okay,

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here’s one that makes me smile. Right now I’m looking at you and I’m thinking,

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look at you in there, looking like a brunette Oscar the Grouch. You are, I don’t have, that’s,

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you’re not really looking like Oscar the Grouch. For one thing, he doesn’t have spectacles like

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that right well there’s that so what makes you smile peter oh your topic is going to be the exact

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opposite of mine okay hmm maybe we should do mine for a beer sides sure okay go ahead what makes you

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smile excuse me i had to burp wow that’s soon that’s sudden you you better talk fast and talk

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now before before you do sound like the guy with the car keys silly things so my car has tire

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pressure sensors like every modern car now. Sure. Do they actually look at the actual tire pressure

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or do they just look at the velocity of the wheel at a given speed and calculate the circumference

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of the tire based on that because I have no idea because the ones on my wife’s car calculate their

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circumference of the tire. I know that mine says you have to drive it for it to take a reading so

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So does that affect my answer?

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That probably means it’s not actually looking at just the pressure, it’s probably actually

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calculating it.

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Probably.

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Yeah.

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That’d be my guess.

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I guess it’s cheaper to do or something.

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I’m sure.

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Whatever’s cheaper, that’s the way they’re going to do it.

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Funny today though, I was driving and one of my tires pressure was 46.

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No, one was 47, one was 48, one was 49, and the other was 50 PSI.

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That just, I was like, that’s so funny.

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That is hilarious.

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I don’t know why.

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Yes.

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Could you feel the tilt?

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I could not feel the tilt, no.

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Okay, you are not you could never be a race driver I guess is what I’m trying to say.

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I guess not.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, so we can’t get the for some reason even though we’ve done everything that we’re

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supposed to do, we can’t get the ones on my wife’s car to reset properly. The tires are

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perfect man, I filled them all myself. I got a compressor in the garage. I waited till it

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was nice and cool. I filled them all to the exact same they were a little low but I

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I don’t know how to reset it. It doesn’t want to reset.

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Got nothing. Take it to the dealership. Pay lots of money.

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I don’t want to do that.

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How’s your beer?

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Uh, the beer’s good. It’s still good.

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Good.

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I’m gonna drink it slowly.

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So, what makes you smile? What’s a little thing that makes you smile?

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What makes me smile? My cat makes me smile.

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Because my cat…

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Cat’s a little thing.

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Yeah. First of all, my cat is a badass. I’ve discussed that before.

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So playing with him, just playing with him is fun.

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When you pet him or touch him, he’s just got this solid feel to him.

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Like he, you know, he just feels like a righteously built animal.

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But then the funny thing about him is his response to everything in life is biting.

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He shows love by biting.

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He shows anger by biting.

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He shows play by biting.

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He shows eating food by biting.

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I mean, everything is biting.

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Well, some of those make sense.

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Some of those do make sense.

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But the one where he just he’s so happy when he’s biting your face or something like that.

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And it’s like, okay, little dude.

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But he’s, he’s pretty smart.

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He like, he wants to use my indoor.

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I have indoor shoes that are basically slippers, Adidas slippers.

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And they’ve got this, I thought you were going to say indoor plumbing.

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They’ve got a big strap across the front of the foot.

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They’re not like thongs, but they’re like sandal, like you’d slip on.

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And he knows that he can use those to dig his claws into versus

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when I’m just wearing my socks.

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And sometimes he’ll come up and he’ll look at my feet and he’s about to extend

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And then he realizes oh, he’s just wearing socks and then he stops and walks away. It’s hilarious. Oh

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He’s not wearing his armor right or the difference between jeans and say my they’re like sweats

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You know what? I mean

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sweats gotcha, but not

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Not the old gray Hanes ones with the cuff at the bottom like Rocky wore when he was yelling

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Anyway, he can tell the difference and he doesn’t hurt me when I’m wearing one and he does doesn’t hurt me when I’m wearing the

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Other because it’s thicker. Anyway, that’s what makes me smile. Yeah, excellent. Excellent

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All right. How’s your beer lasting? Mmm. I’m down to maybe like how I’m more than halfway through

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this is my first I have more because

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As you can see the bottle is uh, what is it? I made hit to today too dark in here to see

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16.9 16.9 fluid ounces. All right, mine’s 12. Yeah, you definitely need another one

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Just a can. And it’s only 4 point some odd percent. I have no idea. It’s weak.

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Oh, that’s true. Yeah, what is this? I dare you call it weak. This is 5.2.

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It’s not the strongest, but it’s not super.

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Yeah, you’re ahead of me. No, this was like 4.8 or 4.7 or something. So I have a backup.

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Yeah, but that looks like something that would be amazing in the summer.

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It’s pretty amazing and it’s summer. So yeah.

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By the way, I don’t know if you noticed, I don’t know if you listened to our podcast, but

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I actually put pictures and links to the beers that we drink last time in the chapter arts.

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I did not notice.

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I did listen to our podcast, but I did not watch it.

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So I did not see the links.

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What about reading it?

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Did you read it?

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I would have put the link.

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I did not read our podcast.

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No.

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[laughter]

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Although this beer is starting to hit me, so I’m starting to feel like maybe I should

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go read a podcast tonight after this.

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Yeah.

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Lay in bed and read a podcast.

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Yeah, exactly.

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So I’ll do that again this time.

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So anyway, from now on, starting last episode, people can look at the chapter art.

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They can read our podcast.

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They can read our podcast.

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They can look at the chapter art.

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I will put chapters in there with links to the beer that I have and the beer that Peter

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has separately so that people can join us belatedly.

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I like it.

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Yeah, that sounds good.

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But yeah, I think when I go to a Whole Paycheck or Whole Foods or whatever it’s called, I

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will you know buy something different once in a while. I mean there may be some repeats

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but it’s not gonna be like I was early on in this where I was always drinking the chocolate.

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You’re not gonna just do a Budweiser every single episode?

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The chocolate porter.

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You can mix it up. You can do Budweiser, you can do Bud Light, you can do Bud Light Lime.

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Have you ever had any of those beers? I’m sure you had when you were younger.

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I may have had a Budweiser a long time ago.

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I definitely had a Miller Lite about

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seven years ago.

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I was out with a friend and his lesbian

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wannabe girlfriend.

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Wait a minute.

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Which made me hilariously…

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That was another little thing that made me smile.

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Wait, why do you say that?

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Did she say she wanted to?

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Because he was hitting on this girl and she was a self-proclaimed lesbian.

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So we were there and he got this, you know picture of Miller Lite and I tasted something

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I was just like my god, this is horrible. Oh, you’re way ahead of me. No, I’m way ahead of you. I topped off again

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I didn’t drink all of the first glass. I topped this off. I thought you were

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Toasting to Miller Lite. No, no, no. So no 16 but 16.9 ounces is like one and a half of these cups got it

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I’ve got like less than four ounces in my beer left

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But anyway, so the reason I bring that up is that like after he gave up on her like six months later

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She married a dude

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So I was just like maybe she just wasn’t that into you. I don’t know. I was gonna say anyway

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She was a smoker. So as far as I was concerned no deal. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah

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I told you about the story when my daughter was little right we pulled up next to this guy and

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her uncle my wife’s brother was infecting her with the

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So there’s two universities around here. One is OSU, Oregon State University, and there’s U of O, which is University of Oregon.

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The University of Oregon is the Ducks, OSU is the Beavers, and he is a Beavers fan, so he would infect her with the anti-duck hatred.

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And so whenever she would see the green O on somebody’s car, she would say, “Duck lover!”

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And so one day we pull up beside this guy, it’s hot and it’s hot, it’s summertime, windows are down.

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First of all, she’s little, so she’s sitting in the back behind tinted windows where he

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can’t see her.

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She’s in her booster seat back there and she goes, “Duck lover!

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And smoker!”

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And he just looks over at me.

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He looked at me like he was going to climb through his window into mine and choke me

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to death.

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And I was like, “You know, I really can’t blame you, but she’s got some points there,

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buddy.”

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So you have Amazon Prime, right?

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Yes.

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And so you have Amazon Prime Video.

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Yes.

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Which you probably never use because you’re an Apple TV user, right?

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No, I use a…

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You can watch Amazon Prime Video on Apple TV.

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I know you can, but I also know that you’re like this Apple lover.

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And you know, you’re kind of a purist.

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Most of the stuff I watch isn’t on Apple TV.

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I mean, most of the stuff I watch is not…

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Everything we watch is on our Apple TV, the physical device.

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But not the service.

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Right. Most of it’s on Netflix or Hulu.

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Hulu’s our live streaming TV.

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Got it. Well, anyway, on Amazon Prime,

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the newest Russell Crowe movie was released really like made

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just for Amazon Prime, like Amazon studios.

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It’s called Unhinged and Russell Crowe plays

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an unhinged ex-husband.

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Are you sure he’s not just playing himself?

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Isn’t he the guy who beat someone up with a telephone

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or threw a phone in a hotel lobby or?

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Could be, could be, I don’t know.

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But it opens with a pretty strong scene.

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But then the scene where the protagonist gets involved starts with a scene very

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similar to what you just described minus the ducks. It’s pretty funny.

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Yeah.

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It’s basically a road rage, a road rage movie with Russell Crowe as the bad guy.

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I mean, I was like, you know, I would normally apologize, but she’s right.

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There you go.

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Uh, uh, duck lover. Yeah. I mean,

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she didn’t say it was bad, but smoke.

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Well, the tone of her voice said it was all bad. She was very disgusted.

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Yeah. Kids have a way of duck lover, duck lover, and smoker.

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That’s one of the things like when I see like an attractive woman,

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there are a couple of things that are immediate turnoffs.

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One of them is a wedding ring. Another would be a cigarette.

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And then, I guess I saw this once in an HR handbook,

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bizarre piercings or tattoos.

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What does that mean?

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So that is so subjective.

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I guess it’s up to interpretation.

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It is totally subjective.

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I saw a waitress, not really waitress,

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like clean up help staff at Shake Shack a few days ago.

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We don’t have a Shake Shack.

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Shake Shack’s like a burger joint.

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Yeah, we don’t have it.

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Okay, well we do.

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I think it might be an East Coast thing,

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maybe even a Northeast Coast thing.

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Damn it, Peter.

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But she had a pierced frenum and she did it herself.

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Oh, ouch.

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So like when she smiled and bared her fangs,

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or you saw this like inverted horseshoe thing

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hanging down in front of her two incisors.

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And I looked at it and I was just like,

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yeah, that’s not a turn on at all.

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Not attractive.

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Yeah, that’s fine.

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I mean, look, people should do what they wanna do.

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I didn’t tell her, “Hey, rip that off. It’s gross.”

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You know, it was just like…

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You and I are not people who believe

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that women’s goal in life should be to be attractive

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to all men and do whatever makes men happy.

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Like, you know, the old thing of you should smile more

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does deserve a punch in the face.

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Let’s be honest.

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I think everybody should smile for,

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But… for, smile more, the beer.

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Right, but telling a woman to smile more,

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that is just like, you’re here for my amusement.

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You must smile so that I can feel happy about you.

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I think I should smile more.

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Right. But that’s not why men say that to women.

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Correct.

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So anyway, but the point is you’re, yeah,

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you’re just not attracted to the piercings in that way.

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Or in that location.

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There are some things that you should not buy

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the self-install kit for.

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That’s all I’m going to say.

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No, no. You’re going to say more.

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No, that’s it.

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That’s one of them.

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Well, give me an example.

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Well, what you just talked about.

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Don’t buy the self-install kit for that.

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Oh!

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The self install kit for front end piercing. Got it. Got it.

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Okay. Yeah. I’m good. I thought you were going to talk about like,

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Get them if you want them, but let the professionals do it.

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Yeah. I thought you were going to say something like, you know,

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Wemo light switches or something.

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No, no, no, no, no. Install all those all yourself all you want,

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but don’t do the body piercings by yourself. Let the professionals do it.

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Make sure they burn their instruments in fire first and then

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So they scald themselves when they go to pick them up.

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And then they burn you when they stick them in because they’re still hot.

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So I got my latest certification last week.

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What is your certification?

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Amazon Certified Cloud Practitioner.

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The most entry level basic junior AWS.

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What does that even mean? You’re a practitioner of the Amazon cloud.

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It means I can tell you about the basics of most of the Amazon cloud services,

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AWS services.

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All right, well, I can tell you about the basics too. Here it goes.

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It is a cloud service that a lot of different companies and people use and a lot of services use.

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And any time AWS goes down, 99% of the streaming services or anything useful that you use on the internet is down.

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There, that’s it.

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That’s pretty good. Pretty good.

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The stuff I learned is slightly more useful and applicable to business.

00:20:13.760 —> 00:20:15.160
Oh, that hurts, Peter.

00:20:15.160 —> 00:20:17.660
I’d said slightly.

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Throw me a fricking bone here.

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So for example, there’s this service called AWS Athena.

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OK.

00:20:25.220 —> 00:20:25.880
I’ve heard of it.

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Which I learned about and was able to, like, the next day

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apply to one of my clients.

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It was pretty cool.

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It’s a service that lets you conduct

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SQL queries against data files stored in Amazon S3.

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As you should.

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There you go.

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And as it happened, I had a client who said,

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we have a bunch of data in S3.

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and our customer wants to access it,

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but we don’t want to give them unrestricted access

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to the bucket.

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So we suggested maybe we can import the data

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into MySQL for them,

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but now you have yet another point of entry or egress

00:21:04.380 —> 00:21:07.540
for the data in the cloud that needs to be secured.

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And I was like, but you could give them access to Athena

00:21:10.140 —> 00:21:12.940
and then your data is really stored only in one place.

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So it makes it a little easier to control.

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So that was pretty cool.

00:21:16.580 —> 00:21:20.380
I have never used Amazon AWS.

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However, I have, Vic and I have played a tiny bit with,

00:21:25.180 —> 00:21:26.020
what do they call it?

00:21:26.020 —> 00:21:28.500
B2Z, it’s the Backblaze,

00:21:28.500 —> 00:21:31.780
it’s basically the Backblaze version of AWS.

00:21:31.780 —> 00:21:34.220
Because we’re, ‘cause I have a Backblaze account

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and we can actually use that and add the BW,

00:21:39.220 —> 00:21:42.740
whatever it is, BWZ, B2Z, whatever they call it.

00:21:42.740 —> 00:21:45.000
We can use that to back our servers up too.

00:21:45.000 —> 00:21:52.080
And as long as we don’t actually have a major incident where we have to download all that stuff again, it’s basically free.

00:21:52.080 —> 00:21:55.080
The costs come in when we start pulling it back down.

00:21:55.080 —> 00:22:01.320
Yeah, and AWS, a lot of that is the same. They’re a Glacier service. It costs almost nothing to put data into it.

00:22:01.320 —> 00:22:01.820
Right.

00:22:01.820 —> 00:22:04.180
And they really slam you when you have to pull stuff out of it again.

00:22:04.180 —> 00:22:08.720
Exactly, yeah. And so we’re going to use it as a backup.

00:22:08.720 —> 00:22:09.220
Gotcha.

00:22:09.220 —> 00:22:09.720
Yeah.

00:22:09.720 —> 00:22:10.220
That’s cool.

00:22:10.220 —> 00:22:10.720
Yeah.

00:22:10.720 —> 00:22:11.920
I’m looking forward to learning more.

00:22:11.920 —> 00:22:16.920
I’m studying now for the AWS Associate Solutions Architect.

00:22:16.920 —> 00:22:17.900
And then from there,

00:22:17.900 —> 00:22:22.400
I’ll probably try to grab the Cloud Security Practitioner cert.

00:22:22.400 —> 00:22:24.800
So those are my goals for 2021.

00:22:24.800 —> 00:22:26.320
Are you a Docker guy?

00:22:26.320 —> 00:22:27.460
Do you know all about Dockers?

00:22:27.460 —> 00:22:28.560
Not really, no.

00:22:28.560 —> 00:22:30.800
I’m gonna start to learn some of that

00:22:30.800 —> 00:22:31.840
as part of this, however.

00:22:31.840 —> 00:22:32.840
Yeah, I’m starting to think

00:22:32.840 —> 00:22:36.600
that Docker sounds like a good way.

00:22:36.600 —> 00:22:39.120
Obviously it’s meant for deploying stuff, right?

00:22:39.120 —> 00:22:42.120
like you have one image, this is how you deploy it

00:22:42.120 —> 00:22:45.200
and get it up and running super fast, I get that.

00:22:45.200 —> 00:22:47.720
But it also sounds like it would be really good

00:22:47.720 —> 00:22:50.520
for just restoring stuff to a known state really fast.

00:22:50.520 —> 00:22:53.240
Absolutely.

00:22:53.240 —> 00:22:55.400
Yeah, I have not yet doctored much.

00:22:55.400 —> 00:22:58.720
I played with it very little, just very, very little.

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But I am curious, AWS has two different

00:23:02.000 —> 00:23:05.360
like Docker platform things that you can do stuff with,

00:23:05.360 —> 00:23:07.120
which I’m like, okay, that sounds really cool,

00:23:07.120 —> 00:23:11.160
but I still don’t really know what it means. So, I’m new at that.

00:23:11.160 —> 00:23:13.760
Peter, I have a suggestion. Can’t wait.

00:23:13.760 —> 00:23:16.520
Well, no, it’s not that.

00:23:16.520 —> 00:23:17.760
Oh, I thought it was a soundboard.

00:23:17.760 —> 00:23:20.640
I’ve given up on that. You said no long distance relationships.

00:23:20.640 —> 00:23:24.200
[Laughter]

00:23:24.200 —> 00:23:29.000
I wish the viewers could see Peter with his head on his podcast microphone right now into his spare.

00:23:29.000 —> 00:23:30.160
[Music]

00:23:30.160 —> 00:23:32.120
Yeah, there you go.

00:23:32.120 —> 00:23:36.320
That’s the sound of me hitting my slamming my forehead into my microphone.

00:23:36.320 —> 00:23:38.620
If you want to run and grab another one, that’s fine.

00:23:38.620 —> 00:23:40.020
I think I’m going to do the same myself.

00:23:40.020 —> 00:23:40.860
I’m going to go get a 12 ounce though.

00:23:40.860 —> 00:23:41.700
This one?

00:23:41.700 —> 00:23:42.520
Yeah, okay.

00:23:42.520 —> 00:23:43.420
Give me a minute.

00:23:43.420 —> 00:23:44.260
I’ll be back.

00:23:44.260 —> 00:23:45.740
Talk to the listener.

00:23:45.740 —> 00:23:47.640
I will talk to you, dear listener.

00:23:47.640 —> 00:23:48.880
Scott is going to miss this.

00:23:48.880 —> 00:23:53.880
He’s not going to hear me opening my Ithaca Beer Company,

00:23:53.880 —> 00:23:55.080
Aprica Wheat,

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Aprica, Aprica,

00:23:56.960 —> 00:24:00.880
Ithaca Beer Company, Apricot Wheat beer.

00:24:00.880 —> 00:24:04.840
It says it’s a wheat ale with natural apricot flavor.

00:24:04.840 —> 00:24:07.840
And the reason I chose this one was number one,

00:24:07.840 —> 00:24:09.680
I like wheat beers.

00:24:09.680 —> 00:24:14.440
And number two, my grandparents used to live near Ithaca

00:24:14.440 —> 00:24:16.020
in upstate New York.

00:24:16.020 —> 00:24:19.260
So this reminded me of when we would go visit them

00:24:19.260 —> 00:24:20.400
in the summers.

00:24:20.400 —> 00:24:22.580
So that’s what I’m pouring here now.

00:24:22.580 —> 00:24:26.800
So I’m on a kick here.

00:24:26.800 —> 00:24:28.920
There’s a definite theme to my beers this week.

00:24:28.920 —> 00:24:32.240
Fruit infused wheat beers.

00:24:32.240 —> 00:24:34.840
Sniff definitely smells a little…

00:24:34.840 —> 00:24:38.880
Snuff smells a little apricot-y for sure.

00:24:38.880 —> 00:24:42.080
Also the faintest hint of wet dog.

00:24:42.080 —> 00:24:43.080
[Laughter]

00:24:43.080 —> 00:24:45.840
Wow, that was a weird time to come into that conversation.

00:24:45.840 —> 00:24:46.840
[Laughter]

00:24:46.840 —> 00:24:47.840
I timed it perfectly.

00:24:47.840 —> 00:24:49.360
I’m gonna sip this now.

00:24:49.360 —> 00:24:52.080
The faintest hint of wet dog.

00:24:52.080 —> 00:24:53.480
You know what?

00:24:53.480 —> 00:24:58.120
It tastes much more like apricot than wet dog and that is a good thing.

00:24:58.120 —> 00:25:00.480
Just show me a bottle please.

00:25:00.480 —> 00:25:01.480
Ithaca.

00:25:01.480 —> 00:25:06.160
Yeah, so I did explain to the listener and you can catch it in post exactly why I chose

00:25:06.160 —> 00:25:07.160
this beard.

00:25:07.160 —> 00:25:08.520
I can catch it in post and get the link.

00:25:08.520 —> 00:25:09.520
Yeah, that sounds good.

00:25:09.520 —> 00:25:18.920
Yeah, I think every podcast should have a little bit of a whiff of wet dog.

00:25:18.920 —> 00:25:19.920
Don’t spray the mic.

00:25:19.920 —> 00:25:20.920
A whiff of wet dog.

00:25:20.920 —> 00:25:21.920
That was so close.

00:25:21.920 —> 00:25:22.920
Yeah.

00:25:22.920 —> 00:25:30.080
Speaking of whiffs, I found a whiffle ball the other day as I was getting out of my kayak.

00:25:30.080 —> 00:25:31.980
I can’t believe this is what we’ve sunk to. Okay.

00:25:31.980 —> 00:25:33.380
For my kayak run. There was a,

00:25:33.380 —> 00:25:35.980
there was a wiffle ball there and I fished it out of the river.

00:25:35.980 —> 00:25:37.260
Talk about your kayaking.

00:25:37.260 —> 00:25:42.620
My kayak, I bought a Drift Sun Rover 220. I think it’s a 220.

00:25:42.620 —> 00:25:48.180
It’s an inflatable 12 foot inflatable two or one person kayak.

00:25:48.180 —> 00:25:52.820
Yes. Yes. And I love it. Okay. It is fun. I’ve been getting out on it.

00:25:52.820 —> 00:25:54.740
I don’t know. I’d say maybe a couple of times a week.

00:25:54.740 —> 00:25:58.940
I might even go after this cause it’s nice and warm outside and I live like a

00:25:58.940 —> 00:26:01.900
literal stone’s throw from the Mystic River.

00:26:01.900 —> 00:26:03.200
So I can just…

00:26:03.200 —> 00:26:04.840
carry it right down to the shore…

00:26:04.840 —> 00:26:05.340
Wait a minute.

00:26:05.340 —> 00:26:07.020
Throw it in the water, jump in, and go.

00:26:07.020 —> 00:26:07.980
Uh, uh, uh…

00:26:07.980 —> 00:26:09.840
Mystic River?

00:26:09.840 —> 00:26:10.340
Yeah.

00:26:10.340 —> 00:26:13.300
Wait, do you have Mystic Pizza there too?

00:26:13.300 —> 00:26:15.600
Uh, there’s probably a Mystic Pizza somewhere nearby.

00:26:15.600 —> 00:26:17.980
Are you old enough to know what I’m talking about?

00:26:17.980 —> 00:26:18.740
Wasn’t that a movie?

00:26:18.740 —> 00:26:19.940
Yeah, exactly.

00:26:19.940 —> 00:26:20.640
Yeah.

00:26:20.640 —> 00:26:21.140
A dumb…

00:26:21.140 —> 00:26:21.840
I don’t… I don’t…

00:26:21.840 —> 00:26:24.240
I never saw the movie, but I thought it was a movie.

00:26:24.240 —> 00:26:24.940
I won’t touch it.

00:26:24.940 —> 00:26:25.540
It was a movie.

00:26:25.540 —> 00:26:28.440
I used to work in a video store when I was young, so…

00:26:28.440 —> 00:26:30.080
Ah, Video Store.

00:26:30.080 —> 00:26:30.840
Right.

00:26:30.840 —> 00:26:32.540
So here’s my second beer, Pitor.

00:26:32.540 —> 00:26:33.380
What have you got?

00:26:33.380 —> 00:26:36.640
Vanishing Point Pale Ale, and it is not an IPA,

00:26:36.640 —> 00:26:37.940
it is an APA.

00:26:37.940 —> 00:26:39.840
An American Pale Ale.

00:26:39.840 —> 00:26:42.160
Yeah, and I gotta tell you, I’ve had one of these before,

00:26:42.160 —> 00:26:43.520
so I can already give you the review.

00:26:43.520 —> 00:26:47.720
Oh, this is by Ghost Fish Brewing Company, actually.

00:26:47.720 —> 00:26:50.200
It’s a little hoppy.

00:26:50.200 —> 00:26:52.460
It’s pretty good, it’s not as bad

00:26:52.460 —> 00:26:54.180
as many of the IPAs I’ve had,

00:26:54.180 —> 00:26:56.440
but it’s not as good as the beer I just had.

00:26:56.440 —> 00:26:57.800
It’s a little hoppy.

00:26:57.800 —> 00:27:05.400
Fair enough. But it’s okay. So I remember you used to be into, maybe you still are, Russian dash cam videos.

00:27:05.400 —> 00:27:09.260
Yeah, I don’t spend a lot of time watching those anymore, but they are hilarious.

00:27:09.260 —> 00:27:13.320
So I think I’ve mentioned it. I know I’ve talked about this on Blurring the Lines.

00:27:13.320 —> 00:27:17.640
I don’t know if I mentioned it here though, but I pay for YouTube Premium. Okay.

00:27:17.640 —> 00:27:23.420
Which is basically just to get rid of the ads. It’s very much reasonable. It’s justifiable.

00:27:23.420 —> 00:27:26.280
It is a justifiable expense.

00:27:26.680 —> 00:27:32.200
Yes, cheers to no ads to no ads. Yeah, do the ads be gone of the world? No, of course

00:27:32.200 —> 00:27:40.120
Smart folks are now just embedding the ads in their episodes. So yeah like folks. Hey, you know, uh, blah blah blah I use

00:27:40.120 —> 00:27:47.240
This vpn provider and you should too and you know, yada yada yada. So yeah, there’s nothing like a lame read, right?

00:27:47.240 —> 00:27:50.520
So I you know, I move through those. Well, let me put it this way

00:27:50.520 —> 00:27:56.280
I’d rather have a lame read by the person doing making the content than an dynamically inserted ad

00:27:56.280 —> 00:28:03.120
Yep, agreed. I totally agree because at least I like the personality who’s doing it. So there’s

00:28:03.120 —> 00:28:08.400
some reason for me to pay attention. There’s one company or one channel though that I really like,

00:28:08.400 —> 00:28:13.320
well I don’t actually subscribe to the whole screen rant channel, but a subset of that is

00:28:13.320 —> 00:28:20.440
this guy Ryan George and he does a series called Pitch Meeting and it is hilarious. I love it. It

00:28:20.440 —> 00:28:28.280
It makes me smile, it’s funny, he plays two parts he plays a screenwriter and a producer.

00:28:28.280 —> 00:28:29.800
I’ve seen some of these, yeah.

00:28:29.800 —> 00:28:33.160
I like it enough, I’m not wearing it today but I actually bought the t-shirt.

00:28:33.160 —> 00:28:33.960
Did you?

00:28:33.960 —> 00:28:39.400
And it’s just freaking hilarious, I love it and that’s like one of the reasons I have it’s like,

00:28:39.400 —> 00:28:45.160
so I know that I will never see an ad dynamically injected into that. So, I was just thinking about

00:28:45.160 —> 00:28:49.440
about that reconsidering like all of my streaming services that I pay for.

00:28:49.440 —> 00:28:51.040
Right. I’ve got Amazon Prime.

00:28:51.040 —> 00:28:55.080
I’ve got YouTube Premium, Disney Plus and Hulu.

00:28:55.080 —> 00:28:57.640
I get through my cell phone provider now.

00:28:57.640 —> 00:29:00.200
Okay. As well as Apple Music.

00:29:00.200 —> 00:29:02.320
So I don’t have any of the premiums.

00:29:02.320 —> 00:29:03.880
Right. I don’t have the but I don’t know.

00:29:03.880 —> 00:29:09.560
The Disney Plus one includes ESPN access through Hulu, which is bizarre.

00:29:09.560 —> 00:29:11.480
Well, they own Hulu now.

00:29:11.480 —> 00:29:13.160
Right. They own most of Hulu.

00:29:13.160 —> 00:29:14.280
Yeah. Right. Right.

00:29:14.480 —> 00:29:18.760
like Jungle Cruise or whatever the new Dwayne Johnson movie just came out.

00:29:18.760 —> 00:29:20.240
I don’t have access to that.

00:29:20.240 —> 00:29:21.120
You have to pay for it.

00:29:21.120 —> 00:29:22.400
Right, exactly.

00:29:22.400 —> 00:29:27.280
Well, because they’re trying to, I mean, they’re all trying to figure out how to,

00:29:27.280 —> 00:29:30.280
movies that they understand that theater’s going away or

00:29:30.280 —> 00:29:32.280
at least it’s not as popular right now.

00:29:32.280 —> 00:29:33.080
Yes.

00:29:33.080 —> 00:29:36.880
They’ve got to charge for access for some stuff.

00:29:36.880 —> 00:29:37.560
Or do they?

00:29:37.560 —> 00:29:39.520
I mean, they’re charging a monthly fee already.

00:29:39.520 —> 00:29:40.240
So But Peter,

00:29:40.240 —> 00:29:43.240
it would take a long time for that monthly fee to add up to what they were making

00:29:43.240 —> 00:29:48.440
the box office. Probably right. So I don’t know if like there’s a package where you get all the

00:29:48.440 —> 00:29:53.000
movies included. I don’t have that. That’s where I was going with that. But I don’t pay for Netflix.

00:29:53.000 —> 00:29:58.520
I don’t pay for HBO Max at this point. Correct. So although there’s stuff on there that I would like

00:29:58.520 —> 00:30:04.520
to see at some point. I have Netflix still, but I personally could live without it. I realized I

00:30:04.520 —> 00:30:10.280
just don’t even use it, but my wife uses it to watch Korean shows. Right. And my daughter

00:30:10.280 —> 00:30:16.600
uses it to watch, I don’t know what she watches. And I don’t pay for Apple TV Plus? I do, well,

00:30:16.600 —> 00:30:22.840
it’s part of my bundle. You have what, Apple One? Yeah. Right, Apple One. Yeah, because I was

00:30:22.840 —> 00:30:27.000
already paying for two terabytes of storage already anyway, and I figured it all out and I was like,

00:30:27.000 —> 00:30:31.560
you know what, by the time I add up all these things, the bundle costs the same, I’m not losing

00:30:31.560 —> 00:30:37.000
any money and I get the TV and I get the fitness. See, the fitness I would not live without at this

00:30:37.000 —> 00:30:44.040
point by now. And that’s the thing is like I already have a free membership to the yoga studio

00:30:44.040 —> 00:30:49.480
where I teach so I can access any of the classes from any of the teachers there anytime I want.

00:30:49.480 —> 00:30:56.200
Yeah. I also pay for a monthly subscription to access to live and to recordings from one of my

00:30:56.200 —> 00:31:01.800
teachers that I did all my yin yoga training through. That’s cool. So I already pay well you

00:31:01.800 —> 00:31:06.920
know I pay for one and I’m entitled to one by my work and stuff so I already have like two other

00:31:06.920 —> 00:31:11.540
yoga studios memberships. Although I did a few of the Apple yoga, you know,

00:31:11.540 —> 00:31:15.580
Apple fitness plus yoga routines. I did enjoy them. They were decent. Yeah.

00:31:15.580 —> 00:31:19.340
I did the ones with, uh, Oh, Jesus.

00:31:19.340 —> 00:31:23.480
There’s two. I like Dustin and Jessica. Jessica. Yes.

00:31:23.480 —> 00:31:27.100
The Australian. Yeah. First time she said, frame your ears.

00:31:27.100 —> 00:31:31.020
Frame your ears. And I’m like, what’s an is, is that a yoga term?

00:31:31.020 —> 00:31:34.540
I literally did not realize she was talking about her ears.

00:31:35.100 —> 00:31:37.140
Yeah, no, the accent was kind of funny.

00:31:37.140 —> 00:31:39.760
I did, it was a little thing that made me smile.

00:31:39.760 —> 00:31:42.900
But I don’t know that I can justify doing that.

00:31:42.900 —> 00:31:47.140
And the thing is like, I get Apple Music for free now

00:31:47.140 —> 00:31:49.380
through, well, quote unquote for free,

00:31:49.380 —> 00:31:51.800
bundled in through my cell phone plan.

00:31:51.800 —> 00:31:56.800
So like if I didn’t have Apple Music, I might be tempted

00:31:56.800 —> 00:31:59.300
’cause the only thing I do is I pay for Apple Care,

00:31:59.300 —> 00:32:01.140
which is not part of Apple One, right?

00:32:01.140 —> 00:32:01.980
That is correct.

00:32:01.980 —> 00:32:09.700
pay for extra storage but not the two terabytes. So, you know, I’m paying a little bit of iCloud

00:32:09.700 —> 00:32:16.700
storage and that’s it, you know, so I don’t have the incentive. So, but I will go back

00:32:16.700 —> 00:32:22.700
to Apple TV probably in a few months when C has finished season two and then I’ll binge

00:32:22.700 —> 00:32:26.980
that and Ted Lasso. So, that’s what I plan to do.

00:32:26.980 —> 00:32:29.980
So far Ted Lasso season two is pretty good.

00:32:29.980 —> 00:32:32.260
I saw episode one and I liked it.

00:32:32.260 —> 00:32:35.660
Episode two gave me joy because…

00:32:35.660 —> 00:32:36.500
Did it make you smile?

00:32:36.500 —> 00:32:40.740
Yeah, and I have a episode in the can for Bulbasaur TV

00:32:40.740 —> 00:32:44.180
about that episode that I’ll edit and release soon,

00:32:44.180 —> 00:32:46.360
hopefully, but you can listen to that

00:32:46.360 —> 00:32:47.420
to get our feelings on that.

00:32:47.420 —> 00:32:49.580
But I feel like it’s gonna be a little bit

00:32:49.580 —> 00:32:51.720
of a deeper story than I originally thought.

00:32:51.720 —> 00:32:53.260
I think they’re going somewhere with it

00:32:53.260 —> 00:32:54.540
and that’s really cool.

00:32:55.920 —> 00:32:58.100
I look forward to seeing it in…

00:32:58.100 —> 00:32:59.940
October.

00:32:59.940 —> 00:33:03.540
Oh, then maybe you don’t want to listen to our podcast.

00:33:03.540 —> 00:33:06.140
Probably not. Not if there’s spoilers.

00:33:06.140 —> 00:33:07.260
Damn it, Peter.

00:33:07.260 —> 00:33:09.380
I made the podcast with you in mind.

00:33:09.380 —> 00:33:10.740
I was thinking about you the whole time.

00:33:10.740 —> 00:33:12.420
Well, that’s great.

00:33:12.420 —> 00:33:15.740
You didn’t say that I had to listen to it immediately on the release date.

00:33:15.740 —> 00:33:16.540
That’s true.

00:33:16.540 —> 00:33:19.100
So that’ll be fun.

00:33:19.100 —> 00:33:20.340
Yeah, that’s it.

00:33:20.340 —> 00:33:23.180
I’m looking forward to a new Mac when and if they announce them.

00:33:23.620 —> 00:33:29.700
Apparently Apple, go figure, Apple is apparently also affected by this chip shortage that’s affecting the entire world, huh?

00:33:29.700 —> 00:33:32.260
Yeah, of course, but they said they weren’t going to be in the conference call.

00:33:32.260 —> 00:33:34.420
I thought they said they were not going to be Mac constrained.

00:33:34.420 —> 00:33:38.820
They’re going to be iPad constrained still, and they’re going to be iPhone mostly iPhone constrained.

00:33:38.820 —> 00:33:39.060
Yeah.

00:33:39.060 —> 00:33:43.620
Which is interesting though, because I mean the big chip, I don’t know.

00:33:43.620 —> 00:33:48.180
So, so for some reason the M2 or M1X or whatnot is not affected by this?

00:33:48.180 —> 00:33:50.420
Well, they make the M2.

00:33:50.420 —> 00:33:52.460
Don’t they make A whatevers too?

00:33:52.460 —> 00:33:57.180
Yeah, but it’s not because of their own chips that they’re constrained.

00:33:57.180 —> 00:34:00.380
It’s because of other parts that go into the devices.

00:34:00.380 —> 00:34:01.900
Okay.

00:34:01.900 —> 00:34:04.060
But not the parts that are going into the Macs.

00:34:04.060 —> 00:34:06.420
Apparently.

00:34:06.420 —> 00:34:07.260
Correct.

00:34:07.260 —> 00:34:08.900
Or whatever.

00:34:08.900 —> 00:34:11.140
Well, also the Macs don’t sell on the same volumes.

00:34:11.140 —> 00:34:12.220
Not like iPhones.

00:34:12.220 —> 00:34:15.020
iPhones sell on way more volumes than Macs do.

00:34:15.020 —> 00:34:16.820
Even though Macs are having good quarters.

00:34:16.820 —> 00:34:20.500
They’re selling a lot of Macs, but they’re piddling compared to iPhones.

00:34:21.380 —> 00:34:24.180
Well, I am looking forward to getting myself a new Mac this year.

00:34:24.180 —> 00:34:26.260
And again, that would be a first for me.

00:34:26.260 —> 00:34:31.060
New watch, phone and Mac in the same year.

00:34:31.060 —> 00:34:33.260
Yeah, I would be. That’s big for me.

00:34:33.260 —> 00:34:35.100
Spent a lot of money on an iPad Pro.

00:34:35.100 —> 00:34:37.620
And that was actually one thing I was doing today was

00:34:37.620 —> 00:34:44.900
so I bought a 2020 iPad Pro and I used it so much that I thought when the 2021

00:34:44.900 —> 00:34:47.220
M1 iPad Pro came out, I thought, you know what?

00:34:47.420 —> 00:34:52.460
gonna buy that because I use this so much that I know now that I want more

00:34:52.460 —> 00:34:58.220
internal storage and I want to upgrade to a model of cellular. Mm-hmm. So I said

00:34:58.220 —> 00:35:02.940
I’ll buy it and I’ll trade in my other one. Mm-hmm. They offered me $580 for my

00:35:02.940 —> 00:35:07.420
trade-in and I said okay fine. I added it to my order and then I started thinking

00:35:07.420 —> 00:35:12.500
about it I thought you know $580 I’m just gonna give this to my daughter and

00:35:12.500 —> 00:35:16.620
then my wife can have the iPad Air that my daughter is using now and that’ll

00:35:16.620 —> 00:35:18.140
last them a long time.

00:35:18.140 —> 00:35:21.000
Mm hmm. So I canceled my trade in.

00:35:21.000 —> 00:35:23.380
Okay, but I called it in.

00:35:23.380 —> 00:35:25.080
They said they canceled it,

00:35:25.080 —> 00:35:28.340
but it still showed on my order details

00:35:28.340 —> 00:35:29.660
and I thought, okay, I’m not going to do

00:35:29.660 —> 00:35:31.580
anything until this thing ships because I

00:35:31.580 —> 00:35:33.180
don’t want them to cancel my order.

00:35:33.180 —> 00:35:35.140
So I waited and as soon as you shipped,

00:35:35.140 —> 00:35:37.080
I called him again and this time they

00:35:37.080 —> 00:35:38.420
said they cancel it and this time it did

00:35:38.420 —> 00:35:40.140
disappear. Here’s the problem though.

00:35:40.140 —> 00:35:42.060
580 bucks.

00:35:42.060 —> 00:35:44.020
So what do you think would happen if

00:35:44.020 —> 00:35:46.260
they’re gonna if they charged you for

00:35:46.260 —> 00:35:50.420
an iPad Pro minus $580 for the trade in and then you cancel the trade in.

00:35:50.420 —> 00:35:52.620
They’re going to charge you that, right?

00:35:52.620 —> 00:35:54.620
You think they charged me twice.

00:35:54.620 —> 00:35:59.020
They charged me once on May 23rd and once on June 10th.

00:35:59.020 —> 00:36:03.720
And I am going in circles right now trying to get somebody

00:36:03.720 —> 00:36:07.020
who cares to take this charge off of my credit card.

00:36:07.020 —> 00:36:12.560
It’s hard to be the company with the biggest market cap in the world.

00:36:12.560 —> 00:36:15.700
So you’ve got to sometimes you got to just double up on things.

00:36:15.720 —> 00:36:19.000
I’m starting to understand how they made 40 billion dollars or whatever it was.

00:36:19.000 —> 00:36:19.880
There you go.

00:36:19.880 —> 00:36:25.320
Actually I think this quarter was in the 50s, right? 50s, 70s, I don’t even remember.

00:36:25.320 —> 00:36:26.440
I don’t even know.

00:36:26.440 —> 00:36:26.940
It’s huge.

00:36:26.940 —> 00:36:34.680
I did do a brief discussion post on that though in my class that I’m taking in management right now.

00:36:34.680 —> 00:36:42.360
And one of the questions was, should Apple take an ethical stance

00:36:43.320 —> 00:36:50.320
to try to affect the quality of life of its supply chains workers.

00:36:50.320 —> 00:36:55.040
You know, so like people in the mines and people, you know, recycling silicon.

00:36:55.040 —> 00:36:56.040
Oh, I think they are.

00:36:56.040 —> 00:36:57.040
Things.

00:36:57.040 —> 00:36:58.360
I think they are trying to change those gradually.

00:36:58.360 —> 00:36:59.360
Right.

00:36:59.360 —> 00:37:00.360
Well, the question is, should they?

00:37:00.360 —> 00:37:03.000
Like, do they have an obligation to do so?

00:37:03.000 —> 00:37:05.280
Well, from a financial aspect, only no.

00:37:05.280 —> 00:37:07.080
But from a… yeah, they do.

00:37:07.080 —> 00:37:10.120
They have a… yes, all tech companies do.

00:37:10.120 —> 00:37:11.920
It’s just that most of them don’t care.

00:37:11.920 —> 00:37:12.920
Correct.

00:37:12.920 —> 00:37:14.920
Most of them do not care.

00:37:14.920 —> 00:37:18.920
Well, the problem is that Apple is the one that gets called out all the time.

00:37:18.920 —> 00:37:20.920
Well, because it’s lonely at the top.

00:37:20.920 —> 00:37:24.920
Well, yeah, because if you call out Apple on something, people will read your article.

00:37:24.920 —> 00:37:26.920
There you go.

00:37:26.920 —> 00:37:28.920
If you’re just talking about raw capitalism, no.

00:37:28.920 —> 00:37:34.920
By the ethics of raw capitalism, no, that’s not the point. The point is to make shareholders money.

00:37:34.920 —> 00:37:39.920
And caring about the working conditions of people does not make shareholders money.

00:37:39.920 —> 00:37:45.800
Correct. And that gets into the whole shareholder versus stakeholder theory,

00:37:45.800 —> 00:37:50.040
which I thought was starting to make a comeback right before COVID.

00:37:50.040 —> 00:37:54.480
But then it went back to like bat in the hatches and stakeholder defender mode.

00:37:54.480 —> 00:37:56.440
What’s the difference between a stakeholder and a shareholder?

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Shareholder is someone who owns a part of the company.

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Stakeholder is everybody with an interest in the company and its actions.

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So if Apple was to put a new fab plant in your hometown,

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you’re going to be affected by that one way or another.

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And therefore you’re a stakeholder. So taking into consideration,

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everybody who has some kind of stake in an endeavor versus,

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Oh,

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you happen to live near where we’re putting a new fab plant and you know,

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we’re going to pollute the hell out of your backyard and make your property worth

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next to nothing and have to leave, you know, for pennies on the dollar. Oh, well, you know,

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so that’s the difference between stakeholder and shareholder.

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Right, right.

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Theory.

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Yeah.

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So, that’s one of the things that was brought up in one of my classes that I really enjoyed.

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Whew, I am feeling my beer.

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I am too. So, you could say that we’re shareholders in this podcast, but the people listening

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are stakeholders.

00:38:55.920 —> 00:38:58.240
They are. They are indeed, but they’re not shareholders.

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Right.

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So, you and I are the only shareholders in this podcast.

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Right. We haven’t gone public yet.

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amazing endeavor that we’re making and all the… So popular. So many listeners.

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Cash that we’re making. By the way, we would love feedback. How can people

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feedback us, Peter? They can feedback us at friendswithbeer.com or beer.tweetpack.us

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which will take you to twitter.com/friendswbeerpod. No one’s ever gonna

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remember that but yeah you can do that too. I know. Yeah, yeah exactly. I know. They will remember,

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damn it. I had a boss that used to say end all your sentences and damn it.

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And I tried to explain that to my daughter and she’s like why? And I said it’s not about the

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swearing. I mean some things I do. It’s not about the swearing, it’s about he wants people to have

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conviction in their ideas. But I just love that. End all your sentences and damn it. Well, on that

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On that note, I think it’s time we start to wrap up this episode, dammit.

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Okay, sounds good.

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[Door closes]

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I think people that listen to us should definitely tell their friends, don’t you?

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Tell your friends!

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Dammit.

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Tell your friends, dammit.

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End all your sentences in dammit, end all your beers in dammit.

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What are they supposed to tell your friends, dammit?

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Mm.

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Do you have 10 minutes to record a beer sides after this?

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Sure.

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Yay, listeners!

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What’s the difference between a beer sides and a regular?

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Well, we so oh!

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Remember, didn’t I tell you last time?

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Here, didn’t I tell you last time?

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Oh, Vic was like, what’s the difference between your beer sides in regular

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episodes? And I realized there is no difference.

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And therefore, there’s no reason to have a beer sides. Yes, exactly.

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Let’s make beer sides be shorter. OK.

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I don’t know what like I still don’t know what the difference is, but let’s do it.

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OK. All right. So this episode is wrapping.

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This is in the can.

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You can’t see it listener, but I’m holding up a can.

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It’s in the beer can.

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This episode is in the can.

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and we’re gonna, as we say on the Blurring the Lines podcast, we’re gonna hit the big red button.

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All right, here we go.

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Only here I don’t have a big red button, I just have a blue and white stop recording button.

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But I’m gonna put that now at the 45 minute mark. Boom.